2014 NBA Draft Thread

[brandon3000]

I remember another 6'9 guy with a great physique that I wanna say all but two GMs in the league slept on before he finally peaked...

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no hyperbole, I think Young can be and will be that good. No one needs him to be Dirk Ibaka or some create-a-player. But if he can do what he did in school making effort plays and running the floor well defending. SIGN THAT MAN.

One of the worst comparisons I have EVER seen on NT.

Why they dark skin brolic dudes?



Patric Young has short arms, low shoulders, short standing reach, he's a poor rebounder, can't block shots what on earth does he have to do with Ben Wallace?

He was SEC defensive player of the year, a solid rim protector and and has the SAME wingspan (7'2) and is actually slightly taller than Ben Wallace (if I'm not mistaken Ben admitted he was closer to 6'7 than 6'8.5 without shoes). They both have a great build true but I'm not just blowing smoke or drawing some comparison because they're both dark skin. That's actually a pretty lame thing for you to suggest.

I've personally watched him play and improve every year in the SEC and what my original point was is that with the right coaching/development I could very well see him dramatically improving his game the same way that Ben did after a few years in the league and finally linking with Doc Rivers. But as I said a few posts ago I'm not gonna cape for dude any further because many of you clearly don't see the same potential I do. I hope he gets picked up though. Dude had a great motor and solid defensive awareness. With the right coach he could be very good at the pro level defensively.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

He was SEC defensive player of the year, a solid rim protector and and has the SAME wingspan (7'2) and is actually slightly taller than Ben Wallace (if I'm not mistaken Ben admitted he was closer to 6'7 than 6'8.5 without shoes). They both have a great build true but I'm not just blowing smoke or drawing some comparison because they're both dark skin. That's actually a pretty lame thing for you to suggest.

I've personally watched him play and improve every year in the SEC and what my original point was is that with the right coaching/development I could very well see him dramatically improving his game the same way that Ben did after a few years in the league and finally linking with Doc Rivers. But as I said a few posts ago I'm not gonna cape for dude any further because many of you clearly don't see the same potential I do. I hope he gets picked up though. Dude had a great motor and solid defensive awareness. With the right coach he could be very good at the pro level defensively.

Except you don't block shots with your head bro, you do it with you arms.

his standing reach 8' 7.5", thats smaller than Jabari Parker, James Young, smaller than most SF's he doesn't black shots, doesn't rebound at an elite level, these are the facts, his arms prevent him from being an effective rim protector.


THEY ARE NOTHING ALIKE.


Patric Young is 5 fouls and good post defense. The thing that makes him look like and action figure is the thing thats stops him from being a starting c his shoulders are low set and wide, but the length of his arms are short. If he had a 8'10 standing reach he probably gets drafted.

 

[NickFolarin]

Lol At The Raptors Pick Of Bruno

He'll Be Good Down The Road.... Like São Paulo

 

[brandon3000]

He was SEC defensive player of the year, a solid rim protector and and has the SAME wingspan (7'2) and is actually slightly taller than Ben Wallace (if I'm not mistaken Ben admitted he was closer to 6'7 than 6'8.5 without shoes). They both have a great build true but I'm not just blowing smoke or drawing some comparison because they're both dark skin. That's actually a pretty lame thing for you to suggest.

I've personally watched him play and improve every year in the SEC and what my original point was is that with the right coaching/development I could very well see him dramatically improving his game the same way that Ben did after a few years in the league and finally linking with Doc Rivers. But as I said a few posts ago I'm not gonna cape for dude any further because many of you clearly don't see the same potential I do. I hope he gets picked up though. Dude had a great motor and solid defensive awareness. With the right coach he could be very good at the pro level defensively.

Except you don't block shots with your head bro, you do it with you arms.

his standing reach 8' 7.5", thats smaller than Jabari Parker, James Young, smaller than most SF's he doesn't black shots, doesn't rebound at an elite level, these are the facts, his arms prevent him from being an effective rim protector.


THEY ARE NOTHING ALIKE.


Patric Young is 5 fouls and good post defense.

I understand your point, but you're speaking as if the PF/C position is what it was 20 or even 10 years ago in the NBA. Guys are smaller and often tweeners or finesse players. Young is strong and wouldn't be easily moved in the post and is quick enough to do one on one defense or likely best suited for weak side rim protection. i think all he needs is a coach because he's already disciplined and mature and yea I do believe that he could be just as good as a Ben Wallace Jason Maxiel or Dejuan Blair. I've seen him play for a while now. I'm not just some kid here that watched the tourney and got hype over a brotha with big muscles and a top seed. So I take offense to your assertion that I think he's like Ben simply because he's dark skin. I watched both play for years especially Ben in Orlando & Detroit and I see similarities most notably in their motor and strength. I would expect an ignorant comment like that from someone who hasn't been on the board for years.

dudes so quick to try to clown someone that's why I barely come in these threads anymore.


Just for fun my favorite Big Ben play. Loved his motor and yes I see it in Patric Young

 

[julius wrek]

Reggie ain't gettin' Harden money.

C'mon now.

Julius F. Wrek

 

[dman14]

ya really

Imo, a better comparison for Patric young is Jason maxiell. Been Wallace Is setting the bar too high

and maxiwell was better on offense then young will ever be

am i off to say reggie evans = patric young
dirty work/hustle/end of the bench guys
go out there and not worry about fouls and just compete

maybe more like jeff adrien?

 

[worldbeefreeg]

Ben Wallace is lowkey one of the most underrated players ever. Like, there might not ever be another guy like him in the NBA. He won 4 defensive MVP's. He was the most important player on a championship squad.

Also, I'm dying @ Pat Young got better every year in the SEC. He barely improved which is why he stayed for four years.

 

[brandon3000]

Reggie ain't gettin' Harden money.

C'mon now.

Julius F. Wrek

I just checked... Joe Dumars isn't in Detroit anymore. You may be right....

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I understand your point, but you're speaking as if the PF/C position is what it was 20 or even 10 years ago in the NBA. Guys are smaller and often tweeners or finesse players. Young is strong and wouldn't be easily moved in the post and is quick enough to do one on one defense or likely best suited for weak side rim protection. i think all he needs is a coach because he's already disciplined and mature and yea I do believe that he could be just as good as a Ben Wallace Jason Maxiel or Dejuan Blair. I've seen him play for a while now. I'm not just some kid here that watched the tourney and got hype over a brotha with big muscles and a top seed. So I take offense to your assertion that I think he's like Ben simply because he's dark skin. I watched both play for years especially Ben in Orlando & Detroit and I see similarities most notably in their motor and strength. I would expect an ignorant comment like that from someone who hasn't been on the board for years.

dudes so quick to try to clown someone that's why I barely come in these threads anymore.


Just for fun my favorite Big Ben play. Loved his motor and yes I see it in Patric Young

dude you are simultaneously underrating Ben Wallace and overrating Pat Young.

Ben Wallace is one of the 5 greatest defensive players ever, he's a once in a generation talent it's bad comparison, take the L.

also

Jason Maxiel: Massive wingspan, legit center standing reach/elite rebounder in college.
Dujaun Blair: Massive Wingspan, legit center standing reach/elite rebounder in college.


Pat Young: Average Wingspan/TINY standing reach/average rebounder in college.


Why are you comparing these people when they have barley anything in common?



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Jumping for a loose ball =/= using your elite wing span, and freakish lateral quickness to deny a guard one on one in the half court and caus a 5 second violation.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

ya really

Imo, a better comparison for Patric young is Jason maxiell. Been Wallace Is setting the bar too high

and maxiwell was better on offense then young will ever be

am i off to say reggie evans = patric young
dirty work/hustle/end of the bench guys
go out there and not worry about fouls and just compete

maybe more like jeff adrien?

that's what i want him for.

 

[toolazy21]

I understand your point, but you're speaking as if the PF/C position is what it was 20 or even 10 years ago in the NBA. Guys are smaller and often tweeners or finesse players. Young is strong and wouldn't be easily moved in the post and is quick enough to do one on one defense or likely best suited for weak side rim protection. i think all he needs is a coach because he's already disciplined and mature and yea I do believe that he could be just as good as a Ben Wallace Jason Maxiel or Dejuan Blair. I've seen him play for a while now. I'm not just some kid here that watched the tourney and got hype over a brotha with big muscles and a top seed. So I take offense to your assertion that I think he's like Ben simply because he's dark skin. I watched both play for years especially Ben in Orlando & Detroit and I see similarities most notably in their motor and strength. I would expect an ignorant comment like that from someone who hasn't been on the board for years.

dudes so quick to try to clown someone that's why I barely come in these threads anymore.



Just for fun my favorite Big Ben play. Loved his motor and yes I see it in Patric Young

Ben Wallace coming out was averaging close to 4 blocks and 10rebs a game, Pat young was barely averaging 1 block and 6 rebounds. I don't think there are many(any?) who come in and make large leaps and bounds in those two categories.

 

[brandon3000]

ESPN got "fans" thinking upside and wingspan are the only way to draw comparisons. I say coach-ability, motor, effort also play a part. I'll chill with the comparisons. It's not really worth it to get into. the people who's opinion really matter didn't see the potential in Young last night at least so it is what it is. Hope dude gets a shot down the road.

 

[greezee]

Ben Wallace is one of the 5 greatest defensive players ever, he's a once in a generation talent it's bad comparison, take the L.

 No he isn't.

 

[champcruthik]

I definitely think people become enamored with Patric Young's physique. The man has brick hands.

His workout crazy though. UF's S&T good money.

 

[dman14]

Ben Wallace is one of the 5 greatest defensive players ever, he's a once in a generation talent it's bad comparison, take the L.

 No he isn't.

he's a 4x defensive player of the year holding down the paint. it's not that crazy of an argument. cant go back to the history books, cause i wasnt there, but in last 30 yrs, you could argue that he was one of the best

 

[buc em]

I'm gonna be watching more Croatian pro basketball than NBA next year

 

[greezee]

he's a 4x defensive player of the year holding down the paint. it's not that crazy of an argument. cant go back to the history books, cause i wasnt there, but in last 30 yrs, you could argue that he was one of the best

All of what you said is true. Also, I am not denying the fact that Wallace was a great defender. But for dude to say he is a top 5 defender EVER is crazy.

 

[big j 33]

I'm sure you'd admit he's at least in the top 10, right? If so, saying he's top 5 isn't that crazy or outlandish.

Wallace is one of the best defenders in history, whether you say he's 8th or 5th, it's splitting hairs.. he's one of the all-time elites.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

All of what you said is true. Also, I am not denying the fact that Wallace was a great defender. But for dude to say he is a top 5 defender EVER is crazy.

It's very easy: 04 pistons one of the best defenses ever; he was the lynchpin, consistently led league in defensive adjusted plus minus.

Russel is set in stone at 1.

but the next four you can argue over but Ben Wallace is solidly in there.

Wallace
Duncan
Olawjuwan
Mutombo

 

[lawdog1]

^^^Rodman?

 

[greezee]

It's very easy: 04 pistons one of the best defenses ever; he was the lynchpin, consistently led league in defensive adjusted plus minus.

Russel is set in stone at 1.

but the next four you can argue over but Ben Wallace is solidly in there.

Wallace
Duncan
Olawjuwan
Mutombo

No doubt about your post. But Wallace isn't top 5 and I'm not even disrespecting or clowning him by any means.

Right of the top of my head without thinking I can list 5

Chamberlain

Russell

Olajuwon

Mutombo

Abdul-Jabbar

See how easy that was?

 

[pmatic]

@Orlando_Magic The Magic's @IamAaronGordon said he chose "00" because it was his 1st AAU number and also how wide he wants fans' eyes to be. #MagicDraft

o_o

 

[dat dude chris]

at Gordons number explanation
Sean Kilpatrick & Tim Frazier will be playing on the Sixers summer league team btw
Any info on them?
Seen Kilpatricks name before but not Frazier. All I know is we need a starting wing player, a backup & starting power forward lol
Sixers at least make this team fun to play with in 2k

 

[gothmog]

It's very easy: 04 pistons one of the best defenses ever; he was the lynchpin, consistently led league in defensive adjusted plus minus.

Russel is set in stone at 1.

but the next four you can argue over but Ben Wallace is solidly in there.

Wallace
Duncan
Olawjuwan
Mutombo

duncan top 10 defenders ever ? get serious , rodman/garnett > duncan by far 

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

Not sure how we can leave Rodman off that list OKB