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Me too, I beg him to stay in Brooklyn and try to make it work
2022 NBA Offseason Thread: Preseason kicks off; Things are fine in Los Angeles, Draymond beats the charges
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Production while shooting open looks playing next to the best shooter ever and best PG of an era. Ray drove the bus.
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None of those dudes can compare to playing with Steph though.
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Big Eddie House easily the most overrated player in the history of sports
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The concept of being THE guy on a good team is NOT overrated. We all agree to this. We literally debate players rankings on the pantheon largely based on their success with this. We argue about whether contracts are worth it on this basis as well.
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Sees username. I understand the hurt!
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What roster prior to Boston/Miami when Ray was on the downside of his career was “stacked”? Y’all reaching
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Come on man Klay isn’t Duncan Robinson. Look at these two videos. A lot of the same play types and actions. WE are better than this
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That Milwaukee team wasn’t very good? He said stacked, not me. Big dog was a 20 ppg scorer and a 2x all star.
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Lowkey the Sonics should've won the chip in 2005. Rashard missed 3 games in the last series vs the spurs with an ankle injury and Ray's three at the end of game 6 rimmed out. I'll never forgive Nate for sticking VITALY POTAPENKO ON TIM DUNCAN with the season on the line 
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Not Duncan at all. Klay a HOFer. Also looking at Klay in year 5 versus Ray in year 9
. Younger Ray was a different level of athlete than Klay has ever been. We can definitely agree to that. I just want to know what makes him better than Ray?
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Not Duncan at all. Klay a HOFer. Also looking at Klay in year 5 versus Ray in year 9
Definitely a better athlete. Would put the ball on the ground more too. I’m asking what makes ray better though, even with those physical advantages? Some seem to think it’s an insult when their production is almost identical. They got buckets in a very similar fashion. Klay was a better shooter. Better defender too
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One guy has played off ball his entire career alongside Steve Curry, a point center, and 3 years of Kevin Durant.
Apples and oxtails.
Apples and oxtails.
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Ray Allen had one deep playoff run in Milwaukee then missed the playoffs for 4 consecutive seasons. Made the playoffs once in Seattle and found the perfect role for him as a co-star in Boston.
Are we sure Klay couldn’t do that?
Are we sure Klay couldn’t do that?
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Depends if Sam Cassell and Luke Ridnour are his PGs
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Thread been telling me all morning he could dribble
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We saying their peak production was the same? I conceded Klay was a better shooter. Ray a better scorer and playmaker easily. Klay a more perfect second fiddle as a young guy. Ray was the engine around lesser talent.
See below.
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Again the engine on a team missing the playoffs. A team that made it past the second round once. I’m making sure we are saying Klay couldn’t do that.
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If we’re being honest about the talent on those teams? Nope, still not sure Klay could do that tbh
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It’s 2 OGs having a productive dialogue. In July at that
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I was intentionally precise with my words. Yes, all of those teams had “THEE GUY” but that guy needed a he infrastructure in place (coaching and roster) to make it happen. If that we’re not the case then the best player would simply will his team to the championship every season…like they did in like the 50-70s
But yes, winning a championship 100% starts with the top fellow on the team and he needs to have the “dawg” in him but coaching decisions and the #2-7/8 doing their part. And to be clear I am not saying this to take away from away from some of the amazing Finals performances we have seen nor am I saying it to prop up tremendous playoff runs that fell short. I am just attempting to highlight nuance that gets lost in debates such as Klay vs Ray vs Reggie
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Can't compare the production of a 2nd option and say it's the same as someone who was a #1. They don't even play the same position
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Ray Allen also DID NOT miss the playoffs in 4 consecutive seasons
He missed the playoffs in 02-03 because he got traded around the deadline from a team with a winning record in the East at the time to a team that was 6 games below .500 in the West at the ASB.
Can’t let y’all get ADDICTed.
He missed the playoffs in 02-03 because he got traded around the deadline from a team with a winning record in the East at the time to a team that was 6 games below .500 in the West at the ASB.
Can’t let y’all get ADDICTed.
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