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Damn. The Yeezy jumped over the Jumpman.
adidas Continues to Dominate the Market Vol. nike hold this kevin hart
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Surprising stuff.
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Superstars and Tubular Shadows were the most popular shoes in August, per the article.
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This isn't hard to believe at all. Anyone that's into Jordans knows that they're essentially "dead" and that all the hypebeasts have moved on to Adidas. I welcome this decline, lower the prices. Jordans are easy to get for the first time since 2010 or so 
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ive seen a lot of stan smiths the past couple weeks, more than any other shoe. particularly on females
putting in work
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Now kicks should be easier to cop.
Wouldn't you know when I stop buying kicks is when they're now easy to cop
Oh well outside of a few pairs I've bought most of the kicks I've always wanted.
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Stan Smiths with the Boost sole.
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i didnt even know they made that til i googled it after seeing your post. damn, would cop.
boost is incredibly comfortable man, more comfortable than vapormax.
got my eye on a pair of iniki's
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Would buy a pair. Those, the Inikis, and the EQT 93/17s.
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The EQT 93/17 Boosts looks ridiculous on foot. Looks like you can use them to ski.
Iniki on the other hand looks pretty nice if you want that more classic aesthetic.
Iniki on the other hand looks pretty nice if you want that more classic aesthetic.
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watch mike gonna lower prices n make ish limited to get his swag back
which wont work cuz all the kids want is yeezys now
which wont work cuz all the kids want is yeezys now
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Adidas run is gonna have to come to an end soon though right? 
Technically they're doing what people were complaining about Nike doing now. Just pushing out the same model with a different update. But then you have the ones that use this reason to not admit they're deepthroating Kanye.
Technically they're doing what people were complaining about Nike doing now. Just pushing out the same model with a different update. But then you have the ones that use this reason to not admit they're deepthroating Kanye.
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Too bad most J's aren't worth buying these days, since now is the time to buy.
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Jordan got too many releases at too high a price point; makes shoes sit. Catering to "die-hards" with "improved quality" (higher prices) was a bad move.
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Anything can happen, but Adidas has momentum at least. Bought a few pairs(well 2) from the Adidas craze going on.
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I blame alp
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lol
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concords must be dropping soon with this info and lower prices
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watch mike gonna lower prices n make ish limited to get his swag back
which wont work cuz all the kids want is yeezys now
once u make it limited it flies, see anniversary edition of air max 87/1
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KING OF KINGS
Nike is still the king of the sneaker industry, but even great empires can fall
Marc Bain
September 06, 2017
"Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!" (AP Photo/Michael Noble Jr.)
Nike has dominated the sneaker world for so many years that it has come to seem invincible, particularly in the US, its home turf and the world’s biggest sneaker market.
Lately, though, some holes have started to open up in Nike’s armor. In 2016, for the first time in more than a decade, Nike didn’t have the top-selling sneaker in the US. That distinction went to Adidas’s retro Superstar. Last week, Nike laid off hundreds of employees in a downsizing move that was first announced in June and will cut about 2% of its workforce, or roughly 1,400 people. Sports-industry analysts have also become increasingly concerned that the Nike brand, including its premium Jordan label, is losing its cachet.
For the first time in ages, Nike’s iron grip on the sneaker world is visibly slipping. The question now is: How much will it slip
Nike owns enough of the sneaker market that it can afford some stumbles without falling from the top spot, and that’s especially true in the US. Data from the research firm NPD Group puts Nike’s US market share, including the Jordan brand, at about 44%. Adidas, its closest competitor, has roughly 11%.
But that doesn’t mean Nike can relax. That 11% of the US market Adidas holds is nearly double what it had a year ago, putting it at number two in the country—and most of the share it’s stolen has been from Nike and Jordan. Adidas’s latest styles, such as the NMD, are winning over new fans, including even the hardcore sneaker collectors who have long worshipped at Jordan’s throne.
Once, Nike was the upstart
Nike hasn’t always ruled the sneaker market, as this chart from a 2013 report by Samsung’s Economic Research Institute that looked at the global market share of the major sneaker brands over the years shows:
Nike retook the top spot in the global market in the late 1980s and hasn’t relinquished it since. ("Athletic Footwear Warfare: Surviving in an Oligopoly," by Samsung Economic Research Institute)
In the 1970s, Nike overtook the former giants of the industry—Puma and Adidas, the companies created in the split of the German Dassler brothers’ shoe empire. But Nike saw its fortunes dip in the 1980s, while the newcomer Reebook soared. Samsung’s Economic Research Institute found that Reebok thrived by appealing to the “leisure sportsperson.”
Today, despite Nike’s market dominance, Adidas has become the hottest brand in sneakers by capitalizing on a similar trend. Shoppers are buying up casual, fashionable footwear, and leaving performance products, especially basketball shoes, on the shelves. Nike simply hasn’t adjusted as well to give shoppers what they want.
The pressure is mounting
In an Aug. 29 note to investors, Morgan Stanley analysts cautioned that Nike’s problems in North America appear to be worsening. It’s relying more on discounts to get shoppers buying, threatening to devalue the brand if the markdowns go on unchecked.
The Jordan brand, which has always thrived on scarcity, may also take a dent as Nike aggressively pumps up the number of shoes available. Foot Locker CEO Richard Johnson mentioned on a recent call with investors that sales of certain Jordan styles had slowed considerably. (It doesn’t help either that, as mentioned, fashion has shifted away from basketball sneakers.)
Johnson highlighted another issue on that call as well: Nike hasn’t introduced a breakthrough innovation in years. When he pointed to “the limited availability of innovative new products” for Foot Locker’s poor quarter, he laid most of the blame at Nike’s feet, since it accounts for the majority of what Foot Locker stocks. About 68% Foot Locker’s inventory came from Nike in 2016.
Adidas, on the other hand, is enjoying a strong positive response to its new Boost soles, a springy technology made of foam pellets on exclusive license from chemical company BASF. They’re perfect for all those casual sneaker-wearers who want something comfortable, that also looks good.
Adidas’s momentum, Morgan Stanley noted, may just come down to it having better products right now. But the brand’s still-growing popularity could help Adidas keep claiming Nike’s customers for some time to come. “We may be witnessing a sea change in consumer preferences which will take years to play out as sales trends ultimate [sic] come to match mindshare trends,” they write.
Adidas’ Futurecraft 4D, a sneaker with a 3D-printed midsole and one way Adidas is planning for the future. (Reuters/Joe Penney)
Outside the US, a more precarious situation
So what happens if Nike continues to slip? It’s not going to lose its crown anytime soon, but there’s no company better positioned to take advantage than Adidas—and not just in the US.
In Western Europe and China—two huge markets—the sales gap between Nike and Adidas is much smaller. China is the world’s second-biggest spender on sportswear, according to the research firm Euromonitor, and still has a lot of room for sales to grow, which is why sportswear companies look to it as a massive reservoir of untapped income. Nike is currently the market leader in China, but Adidas is catching up fast enough that it could conceivably overtake Nike soon. Soccer-loving Western Europe, meanwhile, is Adidas’s home field, and the brand is historically strong there. Nike’s sales will likely keep growing. But it may see its profits squeezed, along with its share of the global pie.
Nike didn’t get to the top of the sneaker world by coasting, though. It’s still a powerhouse of a company, dedicated to innovation and getting better at everything it does. It has some major projects in the works to speed up its supply chain so it can deliver customers what they want as soon as they want it. Fashion trends in the sneaker world, like the clothing world, also come and go much more quickly than they used to. The winds could easily shift back in Nike’s favor in the next couple years.
And there may be an upside to all this for consumers: It could open up the field to more genuine competition. Nike has been practically in a league of its own for years, but it’s facing a tough brawl against Adidas. The pressure is on for Nike to really listen to consumers about what they want—and deliver it.
https://qz.com/1067801/nikes-iron-grip-on-the-sneaker-market-is-slipping/
seems to me Nike/Jordan is more concerned with taking a higher percentage of da reseller cut than keeping da flame of hype on...which over production & sales markdowns tend to put a damper on.
we love it cuz deals are to be had, problem is, da young impressionable teens & "influencers" who pedal in merchants of hype, its been bad business for them for a few years, and Adidas stuff is cheap enough, and less prolific to carve out a nice resell.
Nike can beat Adidas at its own game though..they can crank up da athleisure pressure on Adidas by simply launching a nostalgia blitz and make it limited ala anniversary air max 87/1's and just rake in da halo effect on da rest of their products.
Nike is still the king of the sneaker industry, but even great empires can fall
Marc Bain
September 06, 2017
"Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!" (AP Photo/Michael Noble Jr.)
Nike has dominated the sneaker world for so many years that it has come to seem invincible, particularly in the US, its home turf and the world’s biggest sneaker market.
Lately, though, some holes have started to open up in Nike’s armor. In 2016, for the first time in more than a decade, Nike didn’t have the top-selling sneaker in the US. That distinction went to Adidas’s retro Superstar. Last week, Nike laid off hundreds of employees in a downsizing move that was first announced in June and will cut about 2% of its workforce, or roughly 1,400 people. Sports-industry analysts have also become increasingly concerned that the Nike brand, including its premium Jordan label, is losing its cachet.
For the first time in ages, Nike’s iron grip on the sneaker world is visibly slipping. The question now is: How much will it slip
Nike owns enough of the sneaker market that it can afford some stumbles without falling from the top spot, and that’s especially true in the US. Data from the research firm NPD Group puts Nike’s US market share, including the Jordan brand, at about 44%. Adidas, its closest competitor, has roughly 11%.
But that doesn’t mean Nike can relax. That 11% of the US market Adidas holds is nearly double what it had a year ago, putting it at number two in the country—and most of the share it’s stolen has been from Nike and Jordan. Adidas’s latest styles, such as the NMD, are winning over new fans, including even the hardcore sneaker collectors who have long worshipped at Jordan’s throne.
Once, Nike was the upstart
Nike hasn’t always ruled the sneaker market, as this chart from a 2013 report by Samsung’s Economic Research Institute that looked at the global market share of the major sneaker brands over the years shows:
Nike retook the top spot in the global market in the late 1980s and hasn’t relinquished it since. ("Athletic Footwear Warfare: Surviving in an Oligopoly," by Samsung Economic Research Institute)
In the 1970s, Nike overtook the former giants of the industry—Puma and Adidas, the companies created in the split of the German Dassler brothers’ shoe empire. But Nike saw its fortunes dip in the 1980s, while the newcomer Reebook soared. Samsung’s Economic Research Institute found that Reebok thrived by appealing to the “leisure sportsperson.”
Today, despite Nike’s market dominance, Adidas has become the hottest brand in sneakers by capitalizing on a similar trend. Shoppers are buying up casual, fashionable footwear, and leaving performance products, especially basketball shoes, on the shelves. Nike simply hasn’t adjusted as well to give shoppers what they want.
The pressure is mounting
In an Aug. 29 note to investors, Morgan Stanley analysts cautioned that Nike’s problems in North America appear to be worsening. It’s relying more on discounts to get shoppers buying, threatening to devalue the brand if the markdowns go on unchecked.
The Jordan brand, which has always thrived on scarcity, may also take a dent as Nike aggressively pumps up the number of shoes available. Foot Locker CEO Richard Johnson mentioned on a recent call with investors that sales of certain Jordan styles had slowed considerably. (It doesn’t help either that, as mentioned, fashion has shifted away from basketball sneakers.)
Johnson highlighted another issue on that call as well: Nike hasn’t introduced a breakthrough innovation in years. When he pointed to “the limited availability of innovative new products” for Foot Locker’s poor quarter, he laid most of the blame at Nike’s feet, since it accounts for the majority of what Foot Locker stocks. About 68% Foot Locker’s inventory came from Nike in 2016.
Adidas, on the other hand, is enjoying a strong positive response to its new Boost soles, a springy technology made of foam pellets on exclusive license from chemical company BASF. They’re perfect for all those casual sneaker-wearers who want something comfortable, that also looks good.
Adidas’s momentum, Morgan Stanley noted, may just come down to it having better products right now. But the brand’s still-growing popularity could help Adidas keep claiming Nike’s customers for some time to come. “We may be witnessing a sea change in consumer preferences which will take years to play out as sales trends ultimate [sic] come to match mindshare trends,” they write.
Adidas’ Futurecraft 4D, a sneaker with a 3D-printed midsole and one way Adidas is planning for the future. (Reuters/Joe Penney)
Outside the US, a more precarious situation
So what happens if Nike continues to slip? It’s not going to lose its crown anytime soon, but there’s no company better positioned to take advantage than Adidas—and not just in the US.
In Western Europe and China—two huge markets—the sales gap between Nike and Adidas is much smaller. China is the world’s second-biggest spender on sportswear, according to the research firm Euromonitor, and still has a lot of room for sales to grow, which is why sportswear companies look to it as a massive reservoir of untapped income. Nike is currently the market leader in China, but Adidas is catching up fast enough that it could conceivably overtake Nike soon. Soccer-loving Western Europe, meanwhile, is Adidas’s home field, and the brand is historically strong there. Nike’s sales will likely keep growing. But it may see its profits squeezed, along with its share of the global pie.
Nike didn’t get to the top of the sneaker world by coasting, though. It’s still a powerhouse of a company, dedicated to innovation and getting better at everything it does. It has some major projects in the works to speed up its supply chain so it can deliver customers what they want as soon as they want it. Fashion trends in the sneaker world, like the clothing world, also come and go much more quickly than they used to. The winds could easily shift back in Nike’s favor in the next couple years.
And there may be an upside to all this for consumers: It could open up the field to more genuine competition. Nike has been practically in a league of its own for years, but it’s facing a tough brawl against Adidas. The pressure is on for Nike to really listen to consumers about what they want—and deliver it.
https://qz.com/1067801/nikes-iron-grip-on-the-sneaker-market-is-slipping/
seems to me Nike/Jordan is more concerned with taking a higher percentage of da reseller cut than keeping da flame of hype on...which over production & sales markdowns tend to put a damper on.
we love it cuz deals are to be had, problem is, da young impressionable teens & "influencers" who pedal in merchants of hype, its been bad business for them for a few years, and Adidas stuff is cheap enough, and less prolific to carve out a nice resell.
Nike can beat Adidas at its own game though..they can crank up da athleisure pressure on Adidas by simply launching a nostalgia blitz and make it limited ala anniversary air max 87/1's and just rake in da halo effect on da rest of their products.
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Thierry Henry
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my boy literally just told me this earlier today verbatim in our group chat, he's also a NTer as well so I know he's probably reading this post
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The whole sneaker industry is about to implode.
