Brazil: A Racial Paradise?

[al audi]

im goin in 2014

 

[bleach]

Watch the full episode. See more Black in Latin America.

found this very interesting

 

[bleach]

Watch the full episode. See more Black in Latin America.

found this very interesting

 

[al audi]

im goin in 2014

 

[mytmouse76]

watched this last night...

are there gonna be more or was this is for the Black in Latin America?

 

[mytmouse76]

watched this last night...

are there gonna be more or was this is for the Black in Latin America?

 

[henri2310]

The idea of a racial democracy is a myth of sorts. Sort of a guiding fiction much like the American Dream is to us. The reality is that Brazil is a country with some of the largest inequality and a large portion of that is based along racial lines as well. My professor is fluent in Portuguese and studied in Brazil for plenty of years and he has said on numerous occasions that throughout Brazil, and specifically Rio where he studied and lived there is still the sort of discrimination occurring that we associate with racism in America. Things such as store owners following around Blacks while they are shopping and that sort of thing.

When it comes down to it the idea of a 'racial democracy' was developed in the 1930's under Getulio Vargas' military dictatorship by a sociologist named Gilberto Frerye. He also developed the idea of lusotropicalism if anybody else is familiar with that but that is dealing with the Portuguese colonial empire. Either way this is why many people consider Brazil a racial democracy. Freyre developed the idea that the Brazilian case has always been distinct in comparison to other Latin American countries because of miscegenation amongst the races during and after slavery. This belief could be out of the fact that many of the slave owners in early Brazilian settlement were mostly male and needed female companionship for obvious reasons. At the end of the day, while many Brazilian slave owners did interact with their slaves and it was not taboo to interact with slaves like it was here in America, slavery was still just as brutal and horrendous as it was anywhere else in the world.

This idea of the racial democracy can also attribute to the fact that there has not been a major civil rights movement much like there was in the United States. There is no need to challenge for equality when people believe in the idea of a paradise of all races. At the end of the day though the idea of a racial democracy is very real but at the same time so are aspects of racism and inequality as well.

Hope that helps in any way.

 

[henri2310]

The idea of a racial democracy is a myth of sorts. Sort of a guiding fiction much like the American Dream is to us. The reality is that Brazil is a country with some of the largest inequality and a large portion of that is based along racial lines as well. My professor is fluent in Portuguese and studied in Brazil for plenty of years and he has said on numerous occasions that throughout Brazil, and specifically Rio where he studied and lived there is still the sort of discrimination occurring that we associate with racism in America. Things such as store owners following around Blacks while they are shopping and that sort of thing.

When it comes down to it the idea of a 'racial democracy' was developed in the 1930's under Getulio Vargas' military dictatorship by a sociologist named Gilberto Frerye. He also developed the idea of lusotropicalism if anybody else is familiar with that but that is dealing with the Portuguese colonial empire. Either way this is why many people consider Brazil a racial democracy. Freyre developed the idea that the Brazilian case has always been distinct in comparison to other Latin American countries because of miscegenation amongst the races during and after slavery. This belief could be out of the fact that many of the slave owners in early Brazilian settlement were mostly male and needed female companionship for obvious reasons. At the end of the day, while many Brazilian slave owners did interact with their slaves and it was not taboo to interact with slaves like it was here in America, slavery was still just as brutal and horrendous as it was anywhere else in the world.

This idea of the racial democracy can also attribute to the fact that there has not been a major civil rights movement much like there was in the United States. There is no need to challenge for equality when people believe in the idea of a paradise of all races. At the end of the day though the idea of a racial democracy is very real but at the same time so are aspects of racism and inequality as well.

Hope that helps in any way.

 

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[montellgriffin97]

will be one of my homes one day,

 

[montellgriffin97]

will be one of my homes one day,

 

[kilojules64]

I wouldn't say that Brazilians are above prejudice, I think it's interesting that when my mother goes back she's called 'morena' which means brunette, whereas the people of her skin color in the favelas are called preto, which means black.
It's a lot like the United States in that people can be stuck in the slums no matter what they look like, because class is much more important to their society than race.

*Edit: Oh, and I'm called canela, which means cinnamon, which is actually pretty accurate

 

[kilojules64]

I wouldn't say that Brazilians are above prejudice, I think it's interesting that when my mother goes back she's called 'morena' which means brunette, whereas the people of her skin color in the favelas are called preto, which means black.
It's a lot like the United States in that people can be stuck in the slums no matter what they look like, because class is much more important to their society than race.

*Edit: Oh, and I'm called canela, which means cinnamon, which is actually pretty accurate

 

[keithsweatsjordans]

Originally Posted by kilojules64

I wouldn't say that Brazilians are above prejudice, I think it's interesting that when my mother goes back she's called 'morena' which means brunette, whereas the people of her skin color in the favelas are called preto, which means black.
It's a lot like the United States in that people can be stuck in the slums no matter what they look like, because class is much more important to their society than race.

*Edit: Oh, and I'm called canela, which means cinnamon, which is actually pretty accurate

Not even tryna come at you (bro?) but did you see the episode? Because what you said and what I saw are very different.

 

[keithsweatsjordans]

Originally Posted by kilojules64

I wouldn't say that Brazilians are above prejudice, I think it's interesting that when my mother goes back she's called 'morena' which means brunette, whereas the people of her skin color in the favelas are called preto, which means black.
It's a lot like the United States in that people can be stuck in the slums no matter what they look like, because class is much more important to their society than race.

*Edit: Oh, and I'm called canela, which means cinnamon, which is actually pretty accurate

Not even tryna come at you (bro?) but did you see the episode? Because what you said and what I saw are very different.

 

[geezythagreat]

good piece

 

[geezythagreat]

good piece

 

[mr kuter]

Originally Posted by mytmouse76

watched this last night...

are there gonna be more or was this is for the Black in Latin America?

Its a four part series, this was the 3rd part.
1. Hati and the Dominican
2. Cuba
3. Brasil
4. Mexico and Peru

PBS Sunday nights, I got it on DVR. Its going to DVD in June so it may hit the net soon after that if you missed them.

 

[mr kuter]

Originally Posted by mytmouse76

watched this last night...

are there gonna be more or was this is for the Black in Latin America?

Its a four part series, this was the 3rd part.
1. Hati and the Dominican
2. Cuba
3. Brasil
4. Mexico and Peru

PBS Sunday nights, I got it on DVR. Its going to DVD in June so it may hit the net soon after that if you missed them.

 

[b smooth 202]

Originally Posted by Henri2310

The idea of a racial democracy is a myth of sorts. Sort of a guiding fiction much like the American Dream is to us. The reality is that Brazil is a country with some of the largest inequality and a large portion of that is based along racial lines as well. My professor is fluent in Portuguese and studied in Brazil for plenty of years and he has said on numerous occasions that throughout Brazil, and specifically Rio where he studied and lived there is still the sort of discrimination occurring that we associate with racism in America. Things such as store owners following around Blacks while they are shopping and that sort of thing.

When it comes down to it the idea of a 'racial democracy' was developed in the 1930's under Getulio Vargas' military dictatorship by a sociologist named Gilberto Frerye. He also developed the idea of lusotropicalism if anybody else is familiar with that but that is dealing with the Portuguese colonial empire. Either way this is why many people consider Brazil a racial democracy. Freyre developed the idea that the Brazilian case has always been distinct in comparison to other Latin American countries because of miscegenation amongst the races during and after slavery. This belief could be out of the fact that many of the slave owners in early Brazilian settlement were mostly male and needed female companionship for obvious reasons. At the end of the day, while many Brazilian slave owners did interact with their slaves and it was not taboo to interact with slaves like it was here in America, slavery was still just as brutal and horrendous as it was anywhere else in the world.

This idea of the racial democracy can also attribute to the fact that there has not been a major civil rights movement much like there was in the United States. There is no need to challenge for equality when people believe in the idea of a paradise of all races. At the end of the day though the idea of a racial democracy is very real but at the same time so are aspects of racism and inequality as well.

Hope that helps in any way.

Word.

 

[b smooth 202]

Originally Posted by Henri2310

The idea of a racial democracy is a myth of sorts. Sort of a guiding fiction much like the American Dream is to us. The reality is that Brazil is a country with some of the largest inequality and a large portion of that is based along racial lines as well. My professor is fluent in Portuguese and studied in Brazil for plenty of years and he has said on numerous occasions that throughout Brazil, and specifically Rio where he studied and lived there is still the sort of discrimination occurring that we associate with racism in America. Things such as store owners following around Blacks while they are shopping and that sort of thing.

When it comes down to it the idea of a 'racial democracy' was developed in the 1930's under Getulio Vargas' military dictatorship by a sociologist named Gilberto Frerye. He also developed the idea of lusotropicalism if anybody else is familiar with that but that is dealing with the Portuguese colonial empire. Either way this is why many people consider Brazil a racial democracy. Freyre developed the idea that the Brazilian case has always been distinct in comparison to other Latin American countries because of miscegenation amongst the races during and after slavery. This belief could be out of the fact that many of the slave owners in early Brazilian settlement were mostly male and needed female companionship for obvious reasons. At the end of the day, while many Brazilian slave owners did interact with their slaves and it was not taboo to interact with slaves like it was here in America, slavery was still just as brutal and horrendous as it was anywhere else in the world.

This idea of the racial democracy can also attribute to the fact that there has not been a major civil rights movement much like there was in the United States. There is no need to challenge for equality when people believe in the idea of a paradise of all races. At the end of the day though the idea of a racial democracy is very real but at the same time so are aspects of racism and inequality as well.

Hope that helps in any way.

Word.

 

[klasssickfresh 87]

Nice vid OP, thanks!