Conspiracy Theorists Explain Why 9/11 was planned, everyone else explain why not. No flaming please

[mrbrown]

I hope the truth comes out soon....

maybe it is all linked to something bigger..... happening now

developing over the years. I see the videos and evidence but it would be really hard to keep all the people involved quiet. How many workers would it take to install explosives inside these buildings?

Im sure it took a good amount of man power to orchestrate all of this. What about those workers? Too many people to keep quiet. Or was it something even darker? Could it have been the work of some real evil beings or something? Someone must feel me on this..... WHAT IF IT REALLY WAS PLANNED BY SOMEONE, WHAT ABOUT THE WORKERS INVOLVED?

In my opinion.... maybe the secret service was in on it. Does anyone know how deep members of the secret service have to be in order to work as secret service? Do they go through intense brain washing or something? They could have been the ones orchestrating all of this but SOMEONE MUST SPEAK OUT. The fear of dying cant be that strong..... or is the loyalty to the government so strong with members of the secret service? These are the only group of people I see rigging up all of this and remain silent.

Sure the conspiracy theories make sense.... but once you look at the whole picture, it also seems impossible to plan something this big without a single person saying anything..... you know a simple worker that was hired to do the dirty work.
it just dosnt make sense when you see the magnitude of it all........ maybe aliens did it 

 

[pololax]

Does anyone know that actual size of a 747? Does anyone consider how fast they were actually going when they hit?

You conspiracy theorists are too much man. Two Boeing 747s traveling at a pretty high rate of speed crashed into buildings, it's not that hard to believe that the structural integrity of the building would be in question after that.

 

[cyber smoke]

Originally Posted by PoloLax

Does anyone know that actual size of a 747? Does anyone consider how fast they were actually going when they hit?

You conspiracy theorists are too much man. Two Boeing 747s traveling at a pretty high rate of speed crashed into buildings, it's not that hard to believe that the structural integrity of the building would be in question after that.

Couple post above u bro , 44.7 feet tall, with a wingspan of 125 feet.

 

[spot rusherz]

What happened to the people on the planes though?

 

[spot rusherz]

Originally Posted by Fresh Money

my father worked 2 blocks from the WTC.

he witnessed the events. on september 10th, he noticed plenty things i will not discuss on here.

Why even say this, and not tell us what he saw?

 

[rikan havok]

Originally Posted by DMoney82

cguy610 wrote:

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Originally Posted by DMoney82

Those buildings blew up from the inside before the planes even hit. Buildings have burned for 16 + hours and didn't fall/tilt/ or collapse. It's BS. Them buildings went down demolition style and the other 2 next to it. Nothing touched those two buildings. Explain that

Can you give us just one other example in which a 737 with a full tank of gasoline has crashed into a building at max speed and these buildings that you reference didn't fall/tilt/ or collapse?

Using the same logic, just cause a house can stand after being in a fire, you think you can run an airplane into it full speed and it will still stand. 

Dude. You actually believe that a plane hitting a building will cause it to collapse in a hour, crumble like a damn cookie?? They are built to withstand earthquakes, heavy winds, impacts, ect.
.

Building in China burned for 4 hours from the ground up... DIDN'T COLLAPSE!

Sky scraper in California burned for 3 1/2 Hours... DIDN'T COLLAPSE !!!




What else do you need?


DMoney - I been following your replies for a few threads now and I been so tempted to say something but I have manage to restrain myself and although I want to call you a few names now .. I'm not .. Just know that IMO you don't know what you are taking about.  Please - pretty please don't reply anymore with stuff that makes no sense or do not equates ....

 

[sillyputty]

Originally Posted by DMoney82

Originally Posted by RetroFighterUSAW

For those of you who said Clinton should have killed Osama when he had the chance. What did Osama do at the time that warranted killing him? I hate Osama too but just curious. 

Not a damn thing.

USS Cole right? 

 

[sillyputty]

Originally Posted by jasoner27

Originally Posted by lokiD40

All you gotta know is what happened to WTC Building 7:

- how did it come crashing down with no plane hitting it
- compare it to other demolition vids...same exact thing
- demolitions take weeks/months to setup and plan

Someone debunk this for me. If ur saying fire from xerox and furniture can take out WTC7...then smh!

I remember seeing something that said WTC 7 had structural work done to it a while before 9/11 (not sure how long ago).....the paper work for what was done were lost when the building came down (go figure), but maybe that had something to do with it (them planning/setting up the need for demolitions during those renovation)
Also, there was something speaking about the "plane" striking the Pentagon exactly (or around) an area that was just renovated. Now let me be the 1st to say, what I'm about to say is totally far fetched, but it's one way to rationalize a million of possibilities....missile hit the building, those plane pieces were already planted there and were exposed after the explosion  

On another note, according to what someone posted earlier about the Operation_Ajax.....can't one say that's whats going on with the situation in Libya? 

 

But in reality, prayers go out to those lives lost....the gov't is beyond corrupted and they can do as the please with no regard for human life because we are all expendable. 

Yep.
People choose to forget history. 

Its ok though. I'll be here to say I told you so.

This is ALL in the public domain. This is nothing new. They've BEEN using the people. 

 

[sillyputty]

Originally Posted by psk2310

Noriega, Hussein, & Bin Laden...Why is it the US help put these guys in power & then later took them down???

Don't forget Khaddafi, and Mubarak

 

[rikan havok]

Originally Posted by Cyber Smoke

Witnesses claim to have seen or heard a missile or small plane, not a jumbo jet. A Boeing 757 doesn't fit in the hole in the pentagon. Despite evidence and common sense, the official story says flight 77 flew in parallel to the ground, crashed into the ground floor, didn't make a mark on the lawn, and left virtually no airplane wreckage. The Pentagon stands five stories, 78 feet tall. How could a Boeing 757, 44.7 feet tall, with a wingspan of 125 feet, fly parallel with the ground without leaving a mark on the grass and crash into the first floor?!?

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

 

[endemic415]

Originally Posted by Lunatic 809

Originally Posted by RiKaN HaVoK

Originally Posted by RetroSan

all i know is that Bush got a memo on the planned attacks

If you are going to play the blaming game, why not blame Clinton for letting Obama live? He had a chance on several occasions to take him out ...
Just Saying!

word, he shoulda killed Obama when he had the chance 

Osama would've been the better target

 

[rikan havok]

Originally Posted by sillyputty

Originally Posted by psk2310

Noriega, Hussein, & Bin Laden...Why is it the US help put these guys in power & then later took them down???

Don't forget Khaddafi, and Mubarak

Look at the common enemy at the time and you will see why did American help those individuals .. I'm getting tired of people talking about their rears becase its what they hear ...Good Lord ... I can stand conspiracies but not stupidity ...

 

[sillyputty]

Originally Posted by RiKaN HaVoK

Originally Posted by sillyputty

Originally Posted by psk2310

Noriega, Hussein, & Bin Laden...Why is it the US help put these guys in power & then later took them down???

Don't forget Khaddafi, and Mubarak

Look at the common enemy at the time and you will see why did American help those individuals .. I'm getting tired of people talking about their rears becase its what they hear ...Good Lord ... I can stand conspiracies but not stupidity ...

Now you're showing how short of a memory you have.
EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE NAMES was backed because they supported some other policy that we benefited from.

WE DO NOT GIVE A ____ ABOUT THESE PEOPLE. 

Stop being naive man. 

Look at all the countries we ARENT involved in right now... the ones with 10x more genocide and warfare. You don't hear a word about them. They have NOTHING we need as a country, so we won't be there. 

Once they're done then we swap em out and keep it moving. 

We tried to do it in Columbia and almost succeeded, we tried to in Cuba and failed, pretty much succeeded in Argentina etc... 

Its one thing to support conspiracies but don't let your low tolerance for BS cloud your mind from grasping WIDELY ACCEPTED TRUTH here my dude. This HAPPENED. This isn't speculation. 

I see things differently from ya'll...my parents are from a Caribbean nation... i've seen and heard stories of how multinationals come in and rape, pillage and rob. Yall need to stop buying into this blind patriotism and look at things for what it really is. 

Not every mission is on some "freedom" tip. Don't be fooled.

 

[rikan havok]

Originally Posted by sillyputty

Originally Posted by RiKaN HaVoK

Originally Posted by sillyputty

Don't forget Khaddafi, and Mubarak

Look at the common enemy at the time and you will see why did American help those individuals .. I'm getting tired of people talking about their rears becase its what they hear ...Good Lord ... I can stand conspiracies but not stupidity ...

Now you're showing how short of a memory you have.
EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE NAMES was backed because they supported some other policy that we benefited from.

WE DO NOT GIVE A ____ ABOUT THESE PEOPLE. 

Stop being naive man. 

Look at all the countries we ARENT involved in right now... the ones with 10x more genocide and warfare. You don't hear a word about them. They have NOTHING we need as a country, so we won't be there. 

Once they're done then we swap em out and keep it moving. 

We tried to do it in Columbia and almost succeeded, we tried to in Cuba and failed, pretty much succeeded in Argentina etc... 

Its one thing to support conspiracies but don't let your low tolerance for BS cloud your mind from grasping WIDELY ACCEPTED TRUTH here my dude. This HAPPENED. This isn't speculation. 

I see things differently from ya'll...my parents are from a Caribbean nation... i've seen and heard stories of how multinationals come in and rape, pillage and rob. Yall need to stop buying into this blind patriotism and look at things for what it really is. 

Not every mission is on some "freedom" tip. Don't be fooled.

You are ----- let me not flame ... Don't talk to me and don't quote me!
I don't like to waste my time on people that dont know jack for lack of better words

Saddam = Iraq and Iran War

Osama = Anti - Soviet Union (One of the reason the Soviet Union went under)

Just naming those two as they are the most relevant .. 

Even if they were covert operations and for personal agendas - the US backed them to defeat the common enemy ..

JUST BE QUIET!

 

[bigsupa]

SOME OF YOU ARE TOO YOUNG TO REALIZE WHEN THIS ALL STARTED...

 

[sillyputty]

Originally Posted by bigsupa

SOME OF YOU ARE TOO YOUNG TO REALIZE WHEN THIS ALL STARTED...

Shout out to my man Gary Webb...
Dude died of a suicide...with two gun shot wounds to the head... 

 

[sillyputty]

Originally Posted by RiKaN HaVoK

Originally Posted by sillyputty

Originally Posted by RiKaN HaVoK


Look at the common enemy at the time and you will see why did American help those individuals .. I'm getting tired of people talking about their rears becase its what they hear ...Good Lord ... I can stand conspiracies but not stupidity ...

Now you're showing how short of a memory you have.
EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE NAMES was backed because they supported some other policy that we benefited from.

WE DO NOT GIVE A ____ ABOUT THESE PEOPLE. 

Stop being naive man. 

Look at all the countries we ARENT involved in right now... the ones with 10x more genocide and warfare. You don't hear a word about them. They have NOTHING we need as a country, so we won't be there. 

Once they're done then we swap em out and keep it moving. 

We tried to do it in Columbia and almost succeeded, we tried to in Cuba and failed, pretty much succeeded in Argentina etc... 

Its one thing to support conspiracies but don't let your low tolerance for BS cloud your mind from grasping WIDELY ACCEPTED TRUTH here my dude. This HAPPENED. This isn't speculation. 

I see things differently from ya'll...my parents are from a Caribbean nation... i've seen and heard stories of how multinationals come in and rape, pillage and rob. Yall need to stop buying into this blind patriotism and look at things for what it really is. 

Not every mission is on some "freedom" tip. Don't be fooled.

You are ----- let me not flame ... Don't talk to me and don't quote me!
I don't like to waste my time on people that dont know jack for lack of better words

Saddam = Iraq and Iran War

Osama = Anti - Soviet Union (One of the reason the Soviet Union went under)

Just naming those two as they are the most relevant .. 

Even if they were covert operations and for personal agendas - the US backed them to defeat the common enemy ..

JUST BE QUIET!

Riiiight.
We supported them for OUR benefit.

Once again, you overlook our INTENTIONS not the PRETENSES. 

You're not challenging what I even said.

I said we use these people as pawns to support our policies and regulations and when they start getting aggy or want to use their own currency or affect our energy allowances, we start to shake them up a bit.

I guarantee you this, we will have a bigger role in cuba in the next 2-3 years.

They found a MASSIVE oil deposit 60 miles off the coast of the keys...and the chinese are trying to take dibs on it. 

Watch me and tell me if i'm lying. 

The administration has already begun to loosen some of the travel restrictions there. 

 

[rikan havok]

Originally Posted by sillyputty

Originally Posted by RiKaN HaVoK

Originally Posted by sillyputty

Now you're showing how short of a memory you have.
EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE NAMES was backed because they supported some other policy that we benefited from.

WE DO NOT GIVE A ____ ABOUT THESE PEOPLE. 

Stop being naive man. 

Look at all the countries we ARENT involved in right now... the ones with 10x more genocide and warfare. You don't hear a word about them. They have NOTHING we need as a country, so we won't be there. 

Once they're done then we swap em out and keep it moving. 

We tried to do it in Columbia and almost succeeded, we tried to in Cuba and failed, pretty much succeeded in Argentina etc... 

Its one thing to support conspiracies but don't let your low tolerance for BS cloud your mind from grasping WIDELY ACCEPTED TRUTH here my dude. This HAPPENED. This isn't speculation. 

I see things differently from ya'll...my parents are from a Caribbean nation... i've seen and heard stories of how multinationals come in and rape, pillage and rob. Yall need to stop buying into this blind patriotism and look at things for what it really is. 

Not every mission is on some "freedom" tip. Don't be fooled.

You are ----- let me not flame ... Don't talk to me and don't quote me!
I don't like to waste my time on people that dont know jack for lack of better words

Saddam = Iraq and Iran War

Osama = Anti - Soviet Union (One of the reason the Soviet Union went under)

Just naming those two as they are the most relevant .. 

Even if they were covert operations and for personal agendas - the US backed them to defeat the common enemy ..

JUST BE QUIET!

Riiiight.
We supported them for OUR benefit.

Once again, you overlook our INTENTIONS not the PRETENSES. 

You're not challenging what I even said.

I said we use these people as pawns to support our policies and regulations and when they start getting aggy or want to use their own currency or affect our energy allowances, we start to shake them up a bit.

I guarantee you this, we will have a bigger role in cuba in the next 2-3 years.

They found a MASSIVE oil deposit 60 miles off the coast of the keys...and the chinese are trying to take dibs on it. 

Watch me and tell me if i'm lying. 

The administration has already begun to loosen some of the travel restrictions there. 

Yes after I re-read your comments I knew we were talking about the same thing. I still left the comment as is .... 

 

[tkthafm]

It was a conspiracy... an al-Qaeda planned conspiracy.

That said, these past 10 years have been a catastrophic failure for the US/EU/Israel.

"The War on Terror" is a joke. Bin Laden's goal was to lure us into the ME; and he succeeded. China/Russia/Iran are sitting back and laughing at our incompetence.

 

[dmoney82]

Originally Posted by RiKaN HaVoK

Originally Posted by DMoney82

cguy610 wrote:

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Can you give us just one other example in which a 737 with a full tank of gasoline has crashed into a building at max speed and these buildings that you reference didn't fall/tilt/ or collapse?

Using the same logic, just cause a house can stand after being in a fire, you think you can run an airplane into it full speed and it will still stand. 

DMoney - I been following your replies for a few threads now and I been so tempted to say something but I have manage to restrain myself and although I want to call you a few names now .. I'm not .. Just know that IMO you don't know what you are taking about.  Please - pretty please don't reply anymore with stuff that makes no sense or do not equates ....
Will do.

I'm not really articulate and smart enough to weigh in on topics like these. *+$ always comes out stupid. I'll stay away from threads like these in the future.

 

[solidsnake]

I used to believe in the conspiracy, but recently for some reason I don't

 

[devildog1776]

Originally Posted by tkthafm

It was a conspiracy... an al-Qaeda planned conspiracy.

That said, these past 10 years have been a catastrophic failure for the US/EU/Israel.

"The War on Terror" is a joke. Bin Laden's goal was to lure us into the ME; and he succeeded. China/Russia/Iran are sitting back and laughing at our incompetence.

yeah bin laden lured us into the middle east.... He made sure he messed up his entire operational grounds cut off all his communications and made him inoperable for 10 hrs because it was all part of his plan... Lmao... Cool story bro... Anyway the only ones who benefited from 9/11 were the creators of the Patriot Act, the military contractors who make more than the entire military combined and politicians who breed fear mongering against weak minded gullible individuals who have been social engineered to believe whatever the US govt/media propaganda spews at them.... Regardless of your financial background or educational level . You cannot buy critical thinking and common sense... I'm out. September the 11th occurred 10 hrs ago. If you cannot see the implications of the actions that day then you won't realize where we will be by the end of this decade.....

 

[solidsnake]

Bush reading a book with a goat on it means illuminati?

I can't take that srs

 

[tkthafm]

Originally Posted by devildog1776

Originally Posted by tkthafm

It was a conspiracy... an al-Qaeda planned conspiracy.

That said, these past 10 years have been a catastrophic failure for the US/EU/Israel.

"The War on Terror" is a joke. Bin Laden's goal was to lure us into the ME; and he succeeded. China/Russia/Iran are sitting back and laughing at our incompetence.

yeah bin laden lured us into the middle east.... He made sure he messed up his entire operational grounds cut off all his communications and made him inoperable for 10 hrs because it was all part of his plan... Lmao... Cool story bro... Anyway the only ones who benefited from 9/11 were the creators of the Patriot Act, the military contractors who make more than the entire military combined and politicians who breed fear mongering against weak minded gullible individuals who have been social engineered to believe whatever the US govt/media propaganda spews at them.... Regardless of your financial background or educational level . You cannot buy critical thinking and common sense... I'm out. September the 11th occurred 10 hrs ago. If you cannot see the implications of the actions that day then you won't realize where we will be by the end of this decade.....

Are you serious dude ?


Osama's stated goal was to lure the US into the ME and have them slowly bleed out over the course of many years... which is exactly what is happening. Prior to 9/11 al-Qaeda's address was Afghanistan.. now they have been able to expand all throughout the region (Iraq, Egypt, Palestine, Algeria, Yemen, Libya...) while still operating in the Afghanistan/Pakistan region. Other than the Bin Laden raid/drone strikes we can't really do much about the Waziristan situation. The Taliban simply refuse to be eliminated and will survive long after we leave. How many trillions of dollars have been wasted on this "War on Terror". Look at the US/EU's current economic situation/political standing... China/Iran/Russia have giant grins on their faces. Take out Saddam and give us a pro-Iranian regime ? Why not... allow us to covertly send weapons to kill/maim American troops ? Why not....

Arab Spring ?  Egyptians setting fire the the Israeli embassy ? Iran even stronger ? Turkey turning on Israel ? Hamas winning elections ? Hezbollah embarrassing Israel ? yeah, events sure have gone in our (US/Israel?EU's) favor since 9/11. 

The money whatever contracting firms have made/establishment of the patriot act (and more importantly, the CIA profiting through opium trafficking) are MINUSCULE victories in comparison to the damage done. 

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/MI10Df01.html

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/MI10Dj02.html

Incredible irony for you to be accusing me of "buying into govt propaganda" when you are the one who thinks we came out on top of this whole fiasco 

The costs have been staggering in almost every respect. The estimated $3 trillion to $4.4 trillion Washington has incurred either directly or indirectly in conducting the "global war on terror" account for a substantial portion of the fiscal crisis that transformed the country's politics and brought it to the edge of bankruptcy last month. 

And while the US military remains by far the strongest in the world, its veil of invincibility has been irreparably pierced by the success with which rag-tag groups of guerrillas have defied and frustrated it. The result, according to conservative New York Times columnist Ross Douthat, has been "a steady erosion of America's position in the world", which Obama has so far been unable to reverse. 

 

[witnesskb24]

All of these powerpoint youtube videos are SO convincing!