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[mugen81]

Aint about feelings on my side. I actually like Deadpool. Dude just says thing that are wrong and just keeps going with it no matter what. Before they were opinions so that was w/e, now he's just making stuff up. I'm wondering why he picked Deadpool. when most ppl know he has a cult following not some huge fanbase. Maybe he was just using the wrong words.

Aint no way this could've turned in to Iron Man vs. Batman. That's about an imaginary battle. Dude is clearly wrong in this case but hey I digress.

Gotcha
It just seemed things got "too real" over my man Deadpool, lol

 

[sunshineblotters]

To be fair, Superman Returns isn't considered a hit, it is borderline a flop. $270m budget before marketing and only making $390m worldwide isn't exactly a hit they were hoping for. I read somewhere that the film has to make double it's budget to be considered a "hit". Of course it becomes more complicated as dig deeper into the budget and marketing and investors, then accounting the merchandise and product placements or sponsors, etc... but many would argue that SR was a flop.

$270M :x for a movie that wasnt a sure thing? Iron Man 1s Budget was $160M. Hell Avengers Budget was $220
They should've only destroyed half of NYC in retrosprect.

 

[rfx45]

Singer was coming off X1 & X2, which were big hits. WB was also coming off a BB ride, which was a decent hit. So I think they were a bit more confident in the film. This might also be the reason, along with GL bomb, why WB/DC isn't just making a movie for every member of JL all at once. They are taking it one step at a time.

IM1 was also a risk, RDJ was paid a lot less and though very talented, he was coming off the lowest point in his career. So it was still very risky, read up on reports, that film became a success of off luck and talent. Bridges & RDJ and director Favreau had to improvise much of the film and dialogue and was being rushed. All of them were surprised they even finished the film and became as big of a success that it was.


SR is considered profitable comparison to John Carter that had a $250m budget (before marketing) and made $280m worldwide.

 

[MarvelSux]

superman returns, what did they spend all that money on? horrible cgi?

 

[sunshineblotters]

I agree with you. I was pointing out that IM1 was only 160 mill because it was so risky. Avengers (sure thing) was still less than superman budgetwise. The **** was WB thinking?

 

[rell826]

Unlike Superman Returns, John Carter was actually good. That budget was too big for a franchise people had no idea existed. Shame it barely profited because I wanted to see the sequel.

 

[meek meals]

Regarding Mark Strong playing Lex Luthor, the one thing that worked a bit against him was that he was already Sinestro -- and still could be again.

Will Smith, Idris Elba, or Jamie Foxx for John Stewart . . . 

Make him a military dude who just doesn't give a damn . . . also make Green Lantern a Star Wars + Wolverine Orgins type franchise where there are lots of different heroes

Guaranteed money . . . plus we see more Black Superheroes in hollywood . . . Static Shock is long overdue but that isn't coming anytime soon since he has no relation to the JLA

I was reading up on what happened to the Static property and apparently it was relaunched a few years ago with some DC writers (who never saw the show or read the OG comics) making a lot of unnecessary changes, and running off the OG Milestone writer 

 

 it was cancelled due to poor sales, so smh it's not gaining any new fans

Would hate for it to be done . . . The cartoon was the first black superhero I saw and it was cool to see him put in the same echelon as Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, etc. (in the cartoon)

Anyways Bryan Cranston should have been Hugo Strange

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

John Carter was good? That's one movie I stayed away from due to word of mouth, not being impressed with the trailer, and never really caring for the source material. It had the look of those Sam Worthington Clash/Wrath of the Titans movies I didn't care for as well.

Also didn't care for this Taylor dude looking like a variant of the guy from One Tree Hill.

I might check it out next time it's on tv.

 

[the nomad]

John Carter was good? 

Yes

 

[CP1708]

at John Carter was good.

Of course that would be a film he would support.

 

[the nomad]

at John Carter was good.

 

Didn't say it was movie of the year, and I read a few books after seeing the film with my son, it did better than Marvel when it comes to cannons.

7/10. 

 

[rell826]

How about you hop of my ****. I enjoyed the movie unlike most of the comic book crap.

 

[Sir San Diego]

When dudes say "hop off my nuts" Jimmies have officially been rustled.

I'm dying here at work and I've said it few times in my NT history. Just funny to see it in a comic book thread. We can find anything to argue about on here.

*tears

 

[the nomad]

When dudes say "hop off my nuts" Jimmies have officially been rustled.

*tears

"You gon' LIKE John Carter"

 

[rfx45]

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[rfx45]

Back to the film.... A poster on CBM posted this about Affleck and it makes sense. I'd have to see Daredevil again to judge for myself since I've avoided it like a plague ever since it's release but this does sound about right.

"There are things the Daredevil movie gets wrong. Lots of things. But there are also lots it gets right, in correlation to the character. The issue with the movie is that it has to sell toys. Which means lots of Daredevil. Lots of Daredevil being quiet and fighting mute. Lots of Daredevil being Batman-esque, really, with more intimidation and less stealth. That's a 'body' character; and it's a character Affleck fits very appropriately. The best parts of Daredevil come from the Murdock side. Affleck is a terrific Murdock. He never misses a beat. His delivery is always on point. He's charming, handsome, not overly-brooding... He's 100% what Matt Murdock is in the Bendis/Brubaker/Waid runs.

I'm on the Affleck for Batman train because he's a thinking actor; he knows what separates layers from characters, which makes him a strong director. So, if you're trying to hamper anticipations with Batman vs. Superman just because of Affleck's performance in Daredevil, you're incredibly off-base. With better writing (which I doubt we'll get with Goyer), Affleck could end up being the best Bats of all."

To those in doubt, well....

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

 

[CP1708]

Told ya'll Daredevil wasn't that bad.

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

With better writing (which I doubt we'll get with Goyer)

I felt Ben was incredibly stiff as DD and boring as MM. I saw the attempt at being charming but it didn't land for me (I tried watching DD a few days back on FX, didn't finish) but maybe that was the writing.

For me I never hated Ben's acting. Even 10 years ago which seems the difference ppl like to state. Back then he just had a few more bad choices for roles. My thing is that overall he isn't that great of an actor. Yes, he's picked better roles, written and/or directed better ones for himself but nothing that has amazed me or made me love his performance. Just good to really good at best and I can always see his limitations. He's a far better director than actor.

We shall see though. Maybe being a comic book fan and having a passion for this role will bring out his best. I still got hope for Battfleck, especially after this MOS sequel and he gets to do his own thing in the solo Bat movies.

 

[the nomad]

Daredevil was good, I just hated Bulleye's costume and Kingpin ...James Gandolfini or Vince D'Onofrio would've been better.

 

[rfx45]

With better writing (which I doubt we'll get with Goyer)

I felt Ben was incredibly stiff as DD and boring as MM. I saw the attempt at being charming but it didn't land for me (I tried watching DD a few days back on FX, didn't finish) but maybe that was the writing.

For me I never hated Ben's acting. Even 10 years ago which seems the difference ppl like to state. Back then he just had a few more bad choices for roles. My thing is that overall he isn't that great of an actor. Yes, he's picked better roles, written and/or directed better ones for himself but nothing that has amazed me or made me love his performance. Just good to really good at best and I can always see his limitations. He's a far better director than actor.

We shall see though. Maybe being a comic book fan and having a passion for this role will bring out his best. I still got hope for Battfleck, especially after this MOS sequel and he gets to do his own thing in the solo Bat movies.

Maybe this will help. Depending on the writing, he may just need to do what Bale did in Nolans trilogy, which to you doesn't really test his acting chops? I think that is a good and positive way of looking at things, also keeps the expectations low? Affleck doesn't need to be the center of attention and Batman isn't the primary focus of the film.

I am still hoping to GOD that Batman is a secondary character to Superman.

 

[battousai701]

ben affleck wasn't what made daredevil bad

it was the writing and directing.

the same person in charge of the ghost rider movie

 

[acemaster193]

We need some stability in action hero actors. Ben can pull it off, I've got faith in the dude. Ben can be Bruce.

 

[sunshineblotters]

Every time I come into this thread I am reminded that the Superhero genre, if you can call it that" sucks for the most part. Damn.

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

Daredevil was good, I just hated Bulleye's costume and Kingpin ...James Gandolfini or 
Vince D'Onofrio would've been better.

That would've been interesting. D'onofrio can get real methodical with it. Wonder why he doesn't get more work now since CI has been done for a few years now.

With better writing (which I doubt we'll get with Goyer)

I felt Ben was incredibly stiff as DD and boring as MM. I saw the attempt at being charming but it didn't land for me (I tried watching DD a few days back on FX, didn't finish) but maybe that was the writing.

For me I never hated Ben's acting. Even 10 years ago which seems the difference ppl like to state. Back then he just had a few more bad choices for roles. My thing is that overall he isn't that great of an actor. Yes, he's picked better roles, written and/or directed better ones for himself but nothing that has amazed me or made me love his performance. Just good to really good at best and I can always see his limitations. He's a far better director than actor.

We shall see though. Maybe being a comic book fan and having a passion for this role will bring out his best. I still got hope for Battfleck, especially after this MOS sequel and he gets to do his own thing in the solo Bat movies.

Maybe this will help. Depending on the writing, he may just need to do what Bale did in Nolans trilogy, which to you doesn't really test his acting chops? I think that is a good and positive way of looking at things, also keeps the expectations low? Affleck doesn't need to be the center of attention and Batman isn't the primary focus of the film.

I am still hoping to GOD that Batman is a secondary character to Superman.

While it wouldn't test his acting chops I'd be incredibly disappointed if the writing for the Batman/Bruce Wayne character was Nolan level. Might as well bring back Clooney in if that's the case if we're getting a hollow Bruce with a deep voice Bats again. Even if he is secondary, a repeat Nolan imitation will kill my expectations for future Bat movies with Ben at the helm (even though it wouldn't be Goyer writing). I have low expectations for the MOS sequel in general but to me what Battfleck does is pretty important. I don't think there's much avoiding that there'll be a distraction for fans who are mainly coming to see Batman in this new shared universe.

 

[doyung9]

Every time I come into this thread I am reminded that the Superhero genre, if you can call it that" sucks for the most part. Damn.

Batman > Superman. That's why.