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The game was won in the 4th. And it wasn't won because of any fouling discrepancies. The Suns' 2nd unit just played their balls off.
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In regards to him being wrong about the Cleveland/Lakers series, dont you think Stern would make
sure that would NOT happen after Donaghy said it would happen?
sure that would NOT happen after Donaghy said it would happen?
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stop making sense...these cats don't like it
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So Stern initially wants Lakers vs. Cavs and Lebron vs. Kobe for the ratings bonanza.Originally Posted by chicksNkicks
In regards to him being wrong about the Cleveland/Lakers series, dont you think Stern would make
sure that would NOT happen after Donaghy said it would happen?
But suddenly, Donaghy says it's going to happen, so the ratings and the money take a backseat to Stern's new policy of proving Donaghy wrong. What about the ratings? the money? the press? As long as people watch, Stern and the league see green, a "rogue ref" won't stop them from that.
Money and ratings > Donaghy looking smart and correctly "predicting" the series
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The ref can only do so much though. Most of the playoff games has been blow outs. This Tim dude just trying to pull everyone down with him
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I don't really doubt what Donaghy is saying.
I do get the feeling that the refs are INFLUENCING games by giving certain teams more favorable calls. It's just impossible to prove whether or not they're doing it intentionally. And they can't do anything too drastic or blatant - they can just sway the game a certain way, if that's indeed what they're attempting.
I got the feeling right off the bat in today's Lakers/Suns game, but it could just be the Laker fan in me.
One game they're calling all the touch fouls for a certain team, and other times that team is getting hard contact all over the place without getting any calls. The fact that every series goes through these ups and downs hints that the refs COULD be influencing the games.
Either way, I've been meaning to pick up Donaghy's book. I read part of it in Borders and it was interesting.
I do get the feeling that the refs are INFLUENCING games by giving certain teams more favorable calls. It's just impossible to prove whether or not they're doing it intentionally. And they can't do anything too drastic or blatant - they can just sway the game a certain way, if that's indeed what they're attempting.
I got the feeling right off the bat in today's Lakers/Suns game, but it could just be the Laker fan in me.
One game they're calling all the touch fouls for a certain team, and other times that team is getting hard contact all over the place without getting any calls. The fact that every series goes through these ups and downs hints that the refs COULD be influencing the games.
Either way, I've been meaning to pick up Donaghy's book. I read part of it in Borders and it was interesting.
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You're acting like a Lakers/Celtics match up wouldnt bring ratings; money; press.. Wasn't 08's finals one of the best ratings since the 90's?Originally Posted by Big J 33
So Stern initially wants Lakers vs. Cavs and Lebron vs. Kobe for the ratings bonanza.Originally Posted by chicksNkicks
In regards to him being wrong about the Cleveland/Lakers series, dont you think Stern would make
sure that would NOT happen after Donaghy said it would happen?
But suddenly, Donaghy says it's going to happen, so the ratings and the money take a backseat to Stern's new policy of proving Donaghy wrong. What about the ratings? the money? the press? As long as people watch, Stern and the league see green, a "rogue ref" won't stop them from that.
Money and ratings > Donaghy looking smart and correctly "predicting" the series
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Originally Posted by finnns2003
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It's called Home Court Advantage in the case of the Lakers/Suns series.
Rondo didn't have a good game in game 4, that was basically the game
Rondo didn't have a good game in game 4, that was basically the game
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Yea, Donaghy can still be right about the corruption while being wrong in his Cavs/Lakers prediction. He was too dumb to realize Celtics/Lakers would do the same or possibly even bigger numbers than Lebron/Kobe.
Gotta say that one reason that I hold onto the belief that he could be telling the truth is the refs that they consider to be Finals material. I mean Bennett Salvatore gets Finals games? Guy can't get a call right and it doesn't even matter if it's the Celtics or not. I see that slimeball making ridiculous calls in other games.
Gotta say that one reason that I hold onto the belief that he could be telling the truth is the refs that they consider to be Finals material. I mean Bennett Salvatore gets Finals games? Guy can't get a call right and it doesn't even matter if it's the Celtics or not. I see that slimeball making ridiculous calls in other games.
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Donaghy didn't factor in DeLebronte factor of the Cavs/Boston series.
Also, one wrong prediction doesn't prove he's wrong. Two wrong predictions don't prove that he's wrong.
But with all that's happened so far... you'd be foolish to not even be suspicious of fraudulent referee activity.
Also, one wrong prediction doesn't prove he's wrong. Two wrong predictions don't prove that he's wrong.
But with all that's happened so far... you'd be foolish to not even be suspicious of fraudulent referee activity.
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It's called individual perspective. Or interpretation.
You may look at a play and say "hard foul!".
I may look at it and say "ticky-tack!".
Refs are human too. You guys act as if it's the same 3 refs calling every game of a series. Of course you're gonna have discrepancies in style of play when you rotate the refs so often.
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But 2 wrong predictions means he is right
Why doesn't he expose these memos he claims Stern would hand out to them? The phone calls and emails? Where are those? If he's 100%, those things would be easy to produce.
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He actually named some people in his interview yesterday, although we don't know who those folks are...
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You missed the point smart #%@Originally Posted by Jerome in the House
Originally Posted by Da R Entertainment
This the same dude who said it would be Clev & LA in the Finals
Moron. He said they would try to make a Cleveland - Los Angeles Finals.
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The nba isn't fixed. Way too much of the action relies on players and gameplay.
i have watched these games with the whole purpose of trying to prove the nba is cheating, but it just isn't.
It's about the money, no doubt, and they ain't mad when series go full seven games, but the stories write themselves.
Tim is doing what everyone in a disgraced position does these days (steroid users) and is throwing out a tell-all-book to capitalize on the situation.
People unfortunately will purchase the book, read some "inside scoop" that any casual fan could tell me (NBA WANTS LEBRON VS KOBE) OBVIOUSLY TIM.
Anyways, don't buy into it, let this guy just slither away to put his life back together.
i have watched these games with the whole purpose of trying to prove the nba is cheating, but it just isn't.
It's about the money, no doubt, and they ain't mad when series go full seven games, but the stories write themselves.
Tim is doing what everyone in a disgraced position does these days (steroid users) and is throwing out a tell-all-book to capitalize on the situation.
People unfortunately will purchase the book, read some "inside scoop" that any casual fan could tell me (NBA WANTS LEBRON VS KOBE) OBVIOUSLY TIM.
Anyways, don't buy into it, let this guy just slither away to put his life back together.
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This.
people on here act like they have stocks in the NBA and have to quickly debunk any conspiracy about it.
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And other people in here are the same ones who believe the government is spying on you 24/7 by listening to you via your cell phones and watching you on your computer's webcam even when it isn't on.
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yeah, perkins was ejected, i think donaghy was correct - no one wants nothing to watch with no basketball on for a few days
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Donaghy wasn't joking.
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If they wanted to fix the game, they'd start properly calling Pierce for traveling every time he does that fake step back jumper than jump into the defender. And Ray Allen's footwork is atrocious coming off the screen if he doesn't shoot right away, literally it's like 4 steps before putting the ball down as he turns the corner.
It is a terrible crew though. Eddie F Rush is the head of officiating and has to be 60, and Joey Crawford is well documented for sucking and I don't know the 3rd black dude so he must not be too bad.
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It is a terrible crew though. Eddie F Rush is the head of officiating and has to be 60, and Joey Crawford is well documented for sucking and I don't know the 3rd black dude so he must not be too bad.
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Wake up guys! Boston did not try to win Gm 3 and anyone could see that. You really think the NBA won't have playoff basketball during the Memorial holiday weekend? No way in HELL the Lakers and Celtics were going to sweep and have no playoffs over the weekend. The Finals dont even start to June whatever. That would have been 2 damn weeks with no basketball.
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you really can't make those calls with pierce traveling and ray allen's footwork, it would kill the flow of the game. they have been getting by on these moves for YEARS, that would be too obvious. And now rondo just received a technical the fix is on. we will see if this is legit with donagy with if they do not rescind the 7th tech for perkins, then we will see.Originally Posted by DatZNasty
If they wanted to fix the game, they'd start properly calling Pierce for traveling every time he does that fake step back jumper than jump into the defender. And Ray Allen's footwork is atrocious coming off the screen if he doesn't shoot right away, literally it's like 4 steps before putting the ball down as he turns the corner.
It is a terrible crew though. Eddie F Rush is the head of officiating and has to be 60, and Joey Crawford is well documented for sucking and I don't know the 3rd black dude so he must not be too bad.
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