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My brother in law is a architect, when the mta wanted to improve their wireless infrastructure he had a contract with them...he milked them like crazy that he brought a second house off it.
Dummy politicians PASSED congestion pricing in NYC &TRUMP is blocking it yay!
My brother in law is a architect, when the mta wanted to improve their wireless infrastructure he had a contract with them...he milked them like crazy that he brought a second house off it.
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That’s dope. Caring issues that only affect you personally...
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wait till everything in that zone sky rockets in price. they're charging $25 for every truck...those costs are gonna be passed down to consumers.
Upper west side and midtown?? only rich pricks chill there. I’m good.
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oh yeah? god bless folks who live in L.E.S. hells kitchen, upper west side, china town, chambers street, canal etc. cuz those folks is faaaar from rich.
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With the exception of l.e.s and Chinatown you need quap to live in any other neighborhood on that list.
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I hope we have more taxes imposed on manhattan. Should be a tourism tax passed next to de clutter midtown.
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Residents in congestion-pricing zones are fuming over new taxes
By Nolan Hicks, Sarah Trefethen and Aaron Feis
April 1, 2019 | 10:11pm
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Motorists living inside Manhattan’s new congestion-pricing zonecould get socked with the same fee as any other driver — even if they never leave the zone, officials said Monday.
Robert Mujica, the state budget director, said it would be up to a Traffic Review Mobility Board to “come up with a structure for how you deal with intra-zone moves. Is there a charge — any charge — or what the charge would be for intra-zone traffic?”
The six-person panel, which will be appointed by MTA Bridges and Tunnels, with just one member recommended by Mayor de Blasio, will deal with all pricing issues.
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Mujica defended the potential plan to charge sub-61st Street residents for driving around their own neighborhoods as a matter of fairness to outside commuters.
“What you don’t want to say is the only people that are allowed to drive around in the zone are people who live in Manhattan,” Mujica said.
“The Central Business District happens to be the most transit-friendly area,” he added. “You have the most transit options there, so you should be driving less. That’s the goal.”
But fed-up Gothamites blasted the fee — estimated in the $11.50 range for cars — as a brazen ripoff.
“It’s totally unfair to people who live here,” fumed Marlene Baum. “We’re paying taxes that are extraordinarily high already.”
The 69-year-old Gramercy resident predicted that stubborn New Yorkers would stay behind the wheel — though some of them could be forced to put the five boroughs in their rearview mirrors.
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“I do think they’re going to drive people out. They’re already doing it with the taxes,” said Baum. “People are going to move to Florida.”
The roughly $1 billion that congestion pricing is projected to raise each year will be placed into a “lockbox” earmarked for upgrades and repairs to the flagging mass-transit system, though some city residents objected to the MTA being rebuilt on motorists’ dime.
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“The city’s trying to raise money to fix the subways and penalizing everyone,” groused West 12th Street resident Marjorie Reitman, 74. “No consideration has been given to the residents. It’s ridiculous.”
Along the zone’s 61st Street border, locals and businesses alike were already bracing for the impact, even as it’s more than 18 months down the road.
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“It doesn’t make any sense for me to have to pay $11 to cross a block,” said Diana Blaney, an East 56th Street resident who now plans to start parking her car north of the zone and then hoofing it.
“I’m lucky that I live on the line so I can make adjustments.”
Not so lucky are the owners of parking garages within the zone, who fear they’ll have to lower their prices to entice customers to cross the line — or lose business.
“It’ll definitely have a toll on this garage,” said Jean Palic, an attendant at City Parking on East 59th Street. “We’ll probably lose a lot of customers.”
Workers at the Coliseum Park garage on West 58th Street also shared that fear.
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“Oh, God, forget about it,” groaned worker Basil Dyal. “This garage won’t do business anymore if people have to pay that.”
There are some positives New Yorkers trapped in the zone can cling to, however.
First, zone residents who make $60,000 or less annually can claim a credit for the fees on their tax returns.
Second? “You’re not going to charge someone who’s moving their car because it’s alternate side of the street parking,” said Mujica.
Additional reporting by Ruth Weissmann and Julia Marsh
https://nypost.com/2019/04/01/residents-in-congestion-pricing-zones-are-fuming-over-new-taxes/
By Nolan Hicks, Sarah Trefethen and Aaron Feis
April 1, 2019 | 10:11pm
Shutterstock
Motorists living inside Manhattan’s new congestion-pricing zonecould get socked with the same fee as any other driver — even if they never leave the zone, officials said Monday.
Robert Mujica, the state budget director, said it would be up to a Traffic Review Mobility Board to “come up with a structure for how you deal with intra-zone moves. Is there a charge — any charge — or what the charge would be for intra-zone traffic?”
The six-person panel, which will be appointed by MTA Bridges and Tunnels, with just one member recommended by Mayor de Blasio, will deal with all pricing issues.
–– ADVERTISEMENT ––
Mujica defended the potential plan to charge sub-61st Street residents for driving around their own neighborhoods as a matter of fairness to outside commuters.
“What you don’t want to say is the only people that are allowed to drive around in the zone are people who live in Manhattan,” Mujica said.
“The Central Business District happens to be the most transit-friendly area,” he added. “You have the most transit options there, so you should be driving less. That’s the goal.”
But fed-up Gothamites blasted the fee — estimated in the $11.50 range for cars — as a brazen ripoff.
“It’s totally unfair to people who live here,” fumed Marlene Baum. “We’re paying taxes that are extraordinarily high already.”
The 69-year-old Gramercy resident predicted that stubborn New Yorkers would stay behind the wheel — though some of them could be forced to put the five boroughs in their rearview mirrors.
Advertisement
“I do think they’re going to drive people out. They’re already doing it with the taxes,” said Baum. “People are going to move to Florida.”
The roughly $1 billion that congestion pricing is projected to raise each year will be placed into a “lockbox” earmarked for upgrades and repairs to the flagging mass-transit system, though some city residents objected to the MTA being rebuilt on motorists’ dime.
West Village resident Marjorie ReitmanNatan Dvir
“The city’s trying to raise money to fix the subways and penalizing everyone,” groused West 12th Street resident Marjorie Reitman, 74. “No consideration has been given to the residents. It’s ridiculous.”
Along the zone’s 61st Street border, locals and businesses alike were already bracing for the impact, even as it’s more than 18 months down the road.
Advertisement
“It doesn’t make any sense for me to have to pay $11 to cross a block,” said Diana Blaney, an East 56th Street resident who now plans to start parking her car north of the zone and then hoofing it.
“I’m lucky that I live on the line so I can make adjustments.”
Not so lucky are the owners of parking garages within the zone, who fear they’ll have to lower their prices to entice customers to cross the line — or lose business.
“It’ll definitely have a toll on this garage,” said Jean Palic, an attendant at City Parking on East 59th Street. “We’ll probably lose a lot of customers.”
Workers at the Coliseum Park garage on West 58th Street also shared that fear.
Advertisement
“Oh, God, forget about it,” groaned worker Basil Dyal. “This garage won’t do business anymore if people have to pay that.”
There are some positives New Yorkers trapped in the zone can cling to, however.
First, zone residents who make $60,000 or less annually can claim a credit for the fees on their tax returns.
Second? “You’re not going to charge someone who’s moving their car because it’s alternate side of the street parking,” said Mujica.
Additional reporting by Ruth Weissmann and Julia Marsh
https://nypost.com/2019/04/01/residents-in-congestion-pricing-zones-are-fuming-over-new-taxes/
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There should be and exemption or at least price reduction for Manhattan residents in the zone just like Staten islanders pay a reduced toll for the Verrazano
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A monthly parking spot in a midtown Manhattan garage is more than rent for a 1 bedroom in some places
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HA! these dummies is thinking about tolling drivers who already live in within da congestion zone to drive around their own neighborhood
imagine owning a car below 61th street, and you wake up every day being tolled 12-15 bucks cuz you just happen to live there.
elections gonna be a blood bath.
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A monthly parking spot in a midtown Manhattan garage is more than rent for a 1 bedroom in some places
whoever got a garage close to da FDR/west side highway gonna EAT cuz those roads are exempt, and if you can drove right into a parking lot, you won't incur a toll= instant cottage industry.
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I hate Manhattan anyway, all more reason not to go
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You a fool if you driving to manhattan
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Interesting to see how the exemptions and pricing in general will be. Dying to see where the money will go also, since the funds will be funneled through the state. Hope you get the lions share for improvements for NYC infrastructure. This is a mess man
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i LIVE in Manhattan, and people who own cars will incinerate law makers who passed this
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Na sometimes it’s more convenient to drive. Even if it means paying for parking
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Born and raised in the les. I had to move out quick. Rent jumped crazy even in drug ridden neighborhood. They cleaning it up but the old buildings still trash, white people dont care. They still move in.
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Turning 1 bedroom apartments into 3 “bedrooms” lol
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https://omny.fm/shows/morano-whenever/morano-whenever-23-debate-over-congestion-pricing
podcast talking about congestion pricing.
podcast talking about congestion pricing.
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Great News! Driving in New York City Is About to Become Way More Expensive
Congestion charges may force drivers, ride-sharing, and all sorts of vehicle-related services to surge in price by 2021.
By CLIFFORD ATIYEH
APR 1, 2019
Drew AngererGetty Images
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The state's budget for the fiscal year beginning April 1, 2020, will allow the city to charge drivers who enter Manhattan south of 60th Street—essentially, the entire island below Central Park—under the guise of funding the dilapidated Metropolitan Transit Authority. By December 31, 2020, the city will build electronic toll gantries with license-plate readers at every stop along the "border" at 60th Street, in what will be called the Central Business District. No exact tolls have been set, although an early proposal called for daily charges of $11.52 per car and $25.34 per truck.
This is unprecedented in the United States but not a world first: London, England, became one of the world's first major cities to enact a congestion charge in 2003 (it's now the equivalent of $15 per car per day), while even small cities in Italy and other European countries have followed suit by charging drivers in specific downtown zones.
Cuomo said that the congestion charge will fund the MTA subways and buses with $15 billion over an unspecified time frame and that all of the money will be dedicated to the MTA. The city will make the tolls variable—similar to the way Los Angeles changes carpool-access fees depending on traffic—and provide "exemptions and credits" as wholly decided by the MTA's six-member (unelected) Traffic Mobility Review Board.
Needless to say, all those fun car-centric apps that make New York City living so convenient such as GrubHub, Seamless, Uber, and Lyft can be expected to ramp up in price.
At the moment, no study is estimating just how many fewer vehicles will pour into Manhattan, but then, it appears Cuomo's goal is raising cash, not lowering emissions. Needless to say, all those fun car-centric apps that make New York City living so convenient such as GrubHub, Seamless, Uber, and Lyft can be expected to ramp up in price. Package deliveries, taxis, parking, groceries: essentially everything in the city that requires four wheels to transport it is potentially affected.
New York City already has the equivalent of multiple congestion charges just to get into the city. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey charge $15 for cars to enter New York via the George Washington Bridge and the Holland and Lincoln tunnels.
The MTA just hiked the one-way rate on the Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge from Brooklyn to Staten Island. At $19, it's now the most expensive crossing in the country. The MTA also charges $9.50 both ways between Queens and the Bronx via the Whitestone, Throgs Neck, and RFK bridges. It charges as much to drive between Brooklyn and Battery Park via the Hugh L. Carey tunnel and from Long Island City to 42nd Street through the Queens Midtown tunnel.
Meanwhile, a one-way subway or bus fare is just $2.75. In February, the MTA approved increases for seven- and 30-day ride passes to $33 and $127, respectively, but voted against single-ride increases. Ask any New Yorker how well the trains work or how great the roads are with current funds, and they'll wonder what improvements they'd actually see with all this new money.
It's probably for the best that Car and Driver moved out of New York a long time ago.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a27009218/new-york-city-cars-congestion-pricing/
Congestion charges may force drivers, ride-sharing, and all sorts of vehicle-related services to surge in price by 2021.
By CLIFFORD ATIYEH
APR 1, 2019
Drew AngererGetty Images
- New York's governor, Andrew Cuomo, says charging "congestion" fees to drivers who enter Manhattan below Central Park will generate $15 billion for the city's transit system.
- The automated tolls are slated to arrive in 2021.
- Manhattan already charges drivers some of the nation's highest tolls to enter the city across its many bridges and tunnels.
Advertisement - Continue Reading Below
The state's budget for the fiscal year beginning April 1, 2020, will allow the city to charge drivers who enter Manhattan south of 60th Street—essentially, the entire island below Central Park—under the guise of funding the dilapidated Metropolitan Transit Authority. By December 31, 2020, the city will build electronic toll gantries with license-plate readers at every stop along the "border" at 60th Street, in what will be called the Central Business District. No exact tolls have been set, although an early proposal called for daily charges of $11.52 per car and $25.34 per truck.
This is unprecedented in the United States but not a world first: London, England, became one of the world's first major cities to enact a congestion charge in 2003 (it's now the equivalent of $15 per car per day), while even small cities in Italy and other European countries have followed suit by charging drivers in specific downtown zones.
Cuomo said that the congestion charge will fund the MTA subways and buses with $15 billion over an unspecified time frame and that all of the money will be dedicated to the MTA. The city will make the tolls variable—similar to the way Los Angeles changes carpool-access fees depending on traffic—and provide "exemptions and credits" as wholly decided by the MTA's six-member (unelected) Traffic Mobility Review Board.
Needless to say, all those fun car-centric apps that make New York City living so convenient such as GrubHub, Seamless, Uber, and Lyft can be expected to ramp up in price.
At the moment, no study is estimating just how many fewer vehicles will pour into Manhattan, but then, it appears Cuomo's goal is raising cash, not lowering emissions. Needless to say, all those fun car-centric apps that make New York City living so convenient such as GrubHub, Seamless, Uber, and Lyft can be expected to ramp up in price. Package deliveries, taxis, parking, groceries: essentially everything in the city that requires four wheels to transport it is potentially affected.
New York City already has the equivalent of multiple congestion charges just to get into the city. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey charge $15 for cars to enter New York via the George Washington Bridge and the Holland and Lincoln tunnels.
The MTA just hiked the one-way rate on the Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge from Brooklyn to Staten Island. At $19, it's now the most expensive crossing in the country. The MTA also charges $9.50 both ways between Queens and the Bronx via the Whitestone, Throgs Neck, and RFK bridges. It charges as much to drive between Brooklyn and Battery Park via the Hugh L. Carey tunnel and from Long Island City to 42nd Street through the Queens Midtown tunnel.
Meanwhile, a one-way subway or bus fare is just $2.75. In February, the MTA approved increases for seven- and 30-day ride passes to $33 and $127, respectively, but voted against single-ride increases. Ask any New Yorker how well the trains work or how great the roads are with current funds, and they'll wonder what improvements they'd actually see with all this new money.
It's probably for the best that Car and Driver moved out of New York a long time ago.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a27009218/new-york-city-cars-congestion-pricing/
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NYC is pricing a lot of people out.
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Good. Weak aren’t needed. Live in the Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens if you can’t afford it. Y’all dont see me *****ing I can’t afford to live in the Hamptons or Beverly Hills.
