IDK how many times its gonna have to be said in this thread, but nobody is saying gay parents are gonna be better parents then straight couples or that they can do no wrong.... what were saying is that they are EQUAL to straight parents, of course there can be gay couples that are terrible parents just like there can be straight couples that are terrible parents. So why not give them the same rights as a straight couple?Originally Posted by cartune
Yall laughing at son but we've seen thousands of cases of a father or mother molesting a child.Originally Posted by wildmoodswings
Originally Posted by an dee 51o
If you have straight parents who do messed up things to their kids. Whats stopping messed up gay parents from doing something terrible?
O yea yall think ALL homosexuals are care bears.
I thought gays and straights were all the same?
I think it's more so the idea that it's so highly unlikely that that is an agenda for a majority of gay couples. Furthermore, those suggesting that as a possibility are the ones that are looking for ANY excuse to stand against the issue. Finally, the idea of gay couples pressuring their children to be gay is absurd to even consider. People don't just magically become gay or straight.
um.... no.
Originally Posted by TennHouse2
lol the hell does this have to do with anything we were talking about?
but anyway like you said there are good people and bad people in every group, that's what we have been saying this entire thread. there equal to any other group, no better, no worse. so why shouldn't they have the same rights?
gay people have more rights then black people? word?
No. As long as a church is not publicly funded, it should not be forced to marry gay couples.
No. They aren't forced to do anything now. Churches turn away marriages all the time.
OK. BUT what if there is a gay right out cry that comes from that? I'm not saying it will but yeah, churches were bombarded with condoms during service.
no.
Originally Posted by cartune
See I live in the real world . People like you act like all gays are up standing citizens. The type of $%#+ I've heard in a Waffle House at 2 a.m. will make you dislike some homosexuals too.Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
Originally Posted by cartune
Please stop comparing sexual preferences to race.
Just because Bob likes to get his butt licked on Saturdays by a transvetite if thats what he likes who am I to judge right? But he can keep that private just like all other sexual acts.
If you dont want to be judge on what you do in the bedroom stop letting it be known what you do in the bedroom.
Gay people aren't touching penises in front of your face. Dudes in here are acting like gay people are having sex on their front lawn in front of everybody. Like heterosexual couples, gay people have sex in the privacy of their own home. .
You got good and bad gays just like every other "group" this whole defend a gay movement is lame especially in 2011 since they run damn near everything meanwhile black people still struggle. But I guess black people arent the flavor of the month on the Liberal messageboard revolution.
FACT You got a better chance getting a job being gay than you do being a black man.
Black people were getting murked during the civil rights movement a movement FOR ALL PEOPLE. Conveniently homosexuals kept there sex life secret until the coast was clear. Now they reap the benefits and Gays have more rights than blacks so stop comparing being judge for where you stick your penis to me being judged from a mile away.
Originally Posted by RKO2004
OK. BUT what if there is a gay right out cry that comes from that? I'm not saying it will but yeah, churches were bombarded with condoms during service.
What if the states gave civil unions the same rights as marriage? Would that count or is the main target marriage (the union of man, wife and God)Originally Posted by TimCity2000
Originally Posted by RKO2004
OK. BUT what if there is a gay right out cry that comes from that? I'm not saying it will but yeah, churches were bombarded with condoms during service.
then the argument in this situation would be between gay groups and the CHURCH, not gay groups and the STATE.
we're trying to get STATES to change their laws to afford the same basic rights.
It is marriage. It is about equality, not equivalence.Originally Posted by RKO2004
What if the states gave civil unions the same rights as marriage? Would that count or is the main target marriage (the union of man, wife and God)Originally Posted by TimCity2000
Originally Posted by RKO2004
OK. BUT what if there is a gay right out cry that comes from that? I'm not saying it will but yeah, churches were bombarded with condoms during service.
then the argument in this situation would be between gay groups and the CHURCH, not gay groups and the STATE.
we're trying to get STATES to change their laws to afford the same basic rights.
Originally Posted by RKO2004
What if the states gave civil unions the same rights as marriage? Would that count or is the main target marriage (the union of man, wife and God)Originally Posted by TimCity2000
Originally Posted by RKO2004
OK. BUT what if there is a gay right out cry that comes from that? I'm not saying it will but yeah, churches were bombarded with condoms during service.
then the argument in this situation would be between gay groups and the CHURCH, not gay groups and the STATE.
we're trying to get STATES to change their laws to afford the same basic rights.
Then the gays can start their own church which isn't hard to do. I'm pretty sure there already is a church with openly gay pastors or something. Although I don't see why homosexuals can't go to court to get married.Originally Posted by RKO2004
OK. BUT what if there is a gay right out cry that comes from that? I'm not saying it will but yeah, churches were bombarded with condoms during service.
Originally Posted by TimCity2000
Originally Posted by RKO2004
What if the states gave civil unions the same rights as marriage? Would that count or is the main target marriage (the union of man, wife and God)
a church is free to define a marriage however they wish, and to grant such a title to whomever they wish.
as long as the state gives me the same rights as a heterosexual person, i don't care what it's called.... although the term should be the same regardless of orientation.
like lobotomybeats said... it's about equality. using "civil unions" vs "marriage" smacks of "separate but equal"
Wait, when did you meet the missus?Originally Posted by RKO2004
Jesus did say don't discriminate and me OK'ing Lobo and some 260 pound female to marry over two guys would probably fall into discriminating.Originally Posted by TimCity2000
Originally Posted by RKO2004
What if the states gave civil unions the same rights as marriage? Would that count or is the main target marriage (the union of man, wife and God)
a church is free to define a marriage however they wish, and to grant such a title to whomever they wish.
as long as the state gives me the same rights as a heterosexual person, i don't care what it's called.... although the term should be the same regardless of orientation.
like lobotomybeats said... it's about equality. using "civil unions" vs "marriage" smacks of "separate but equal"
