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[DCAllAfrican]

Seems to be just Fallon Fox... here's the zinger
She LIED about it till she got caught
I wonder why?
It was allowed after all...
What reasoning would Fox feel the need to lie..
hmm

The Fox knows it is an advantage.

And I didn't even think of this. You know how folks in MMA have to cycle on and off of "modern medicine."

Why wouldn't a Trans fighter not cycle on and off their therapy when they know they have a fight coming up.

Again how do you defend this

 

[osh kosh bosh]

You are assuming they do have rational logic. When it comes to Fallon Fox. The athletic commission does not have the best logic. Here's some of their logic. They banned 12-6 elbows because they saw guys breaking bricks in that fashion. When in reality the elbows that are legal, are more dangerous. You are assuming way too much and talking on subjects you don't seem to have much knowledge in. The olympics are far from perfect. They just removed boxing headgear after all these decades because they now know it was much more dangerous with it. They hosted their games in Nazi, Germany. They are a billion dollar company who pays it's athletes that make their business a couple grand... . Yeah, they have awesome logic. Allowing transgender competitors in, is due to the thinking of, "if you're not with us, you're against us", the LGBT community has.
Not some logic the Olympic has. It' all about $$$$$$$$.

Look I can't make heads or tales of your incomprehensible pablum. sorry.


I'm not part of the LGBT community so I don't really know about any of that, I'm just a guy on the street, looking at the facts.


IOC has decided, and so given how you seem to feel about the IOC corruptness, I don't know why you even care about the Olympics.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

The Fox knows it is an advantage.

And I didn't even think of this. You know how folks in MMA have to cycle on and off of "modern medicine."

Why wouldn't a Trans fighter not cycle on and off their therapy when they know they have a fight coming up.

Again how do you defend this

what is her advantage?

 

[DCAllAfrican]

what is her advantage?

You do understand therapy doesn't decrease bone density right?

Or do I have to explain to you how that is an advantage for fighter?

 

[filthyjiujitsu]

Look I can't make heads or tales of your incomprehensible pablum. sorry.


I'm not part of the LGBT community so I don't really know about any of that, I'm just a guy on the street, looking at the facts.


IOC has decided, and so given how you seem to feel about the IOC corruptness, I don't know why you even care about the Olympics.

Stop playing ****** papi. You argument is done.
Don't make me quote what doesn't change from HRT again.

Why wouldn't a Trans fighter not cycle on and off their therapy when they know they have a fight coming up.

Yeah. It will happen. Take the lowest dose possible to avoid big peaks. Take a low does of steroids right after testing as well. So many variables.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I don't see how anyone defends this.

Hopefully yall have a daughter that fights and is on the opposite end of one of these beatings

Anyone have Trans vs women won/loss record stats In MMA?

its pretty easy actually, you listen to the plurality of medical professionals, you read up a bit the effects of hormone therapy, you then ready about the skeletal differences between gender and races.

and boom you come to the same conclusion the IOC did.





I can't for life of me figure out why this is stressing some of y'all out so much. such a itny percentage of the population.

*shrugs*

 

[DCAllAfrican]

How often are you going to use the

Don't lose sleep
Why is this stressing you out

Defense mechanisms?

Do better than that man

 

[osh kosh bosh]

You do understand therapy doesn't decrease bone density right?

Or do I have to explain to you how that is an advantage for fighter?

Bone density does decrease.

Most measures of physical strength minimize, muscle mass decreases, bone density decreases, and they become fairly comparable to women in their musculature.

also bone density varies greatly between races. black women have denser bones than white men. so it doesnt fall along gender lines anyways.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Fairly comparable......

 

[osh kosh bosh]

How often are you going to use the

Don't lose sleep
Why is this stressing you out

Defense mechanisms?

Do better than that man

thats just my opinion. I don't have a dog in the race, (a race thats mostly over), i just figure id give out some facts.


the rest is facts.

facts that you mostly ignore.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Fairly comparable......

read the second part as well.


bone density does not break down a long gender lines, varies between different races.


under your logic black women not be allowed to compete against white women.

because their bones are denser on average.


EDIT

also Fallon fox doesn't have testes any more so her testosterone levels are actually lower than the average woman.

 

[filthyjiujitsu]

thats just my opinion. I don't have a dog in the race, (a race thats mostly over), i just figure id give out some facts.


the rest is facts.

facts that you mostly ignore.

Only person ignoring facts is you.

HRT cannot reverse bone changes that have already been established by puberty. Consequently, total height, the length of the arms, legs, hands, and feet, and the width/size of the shoulders and rib cage are all not affected by HRT. However, details of bone shape change throughout life, with bones becoming heavier and more deeply sculptured under the influence of androgens, and HRT will prevent such changes from developing any further.
The width of the hips are not affected in individuals in whom epiphyseal closure (fusion and closure of the ends of bones, which prevents any further lengthening) has taken place, an event which occurs in most people between 18 and 25 years of age.[citation needed] In addition, already established changes to the shape of the hips cannot be reversed by HRT whether epiphyseal closure has taken place yet or not.[citation needed]
Already established changes to the sculpture of the bone structure of the face are not affected by HRT.

I stated how these facts are advantages in MMA and contact sports in general. But continue to ignore.

 

[SC kid]

Mens skin is 25% thicker than women's

Men also have a larger heart and lungs

If you have two fighters of equal skill and health and physical ability.
You give one thicker skin and a larger heart and lungs thats an advantage.

Again i dont know wat the hormone drugs do but i doubt it decreases the sz of your heart and lungs

 

[DCAllAfrican]

[emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji] thicker skin

Dude, this is why you are the MVP on NT

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Only person ignoring facts is you.
I stated how these facts are advantages in MMA and contact sports in general. But continue to ignore.

bone density does not break down along gender lines for the 50th time.

so under your logic black women can't compete against white women. black women have longer arms, narrower hips, than many white men.



and like I said, unless it falls outside the bell curve don't understand why this matters.

 

[shogun]

So does a man who transitioned to a woman lose most of that man strength or is their strength level still above someone who was born a woman?

 

[filthyjiujitsu]

bone density does not break down along gender lines for the 50th time.

so under your logic black women can't compete against white women. black women have longer arms, narrower hips, than many white men.



and like I said, unless it falls outside the bell curve don't understand why this matters.

With that logic. Shaq should've never been in the NBA with the likes of Muggsy Bogues. This isn't the issue....

The issue is men generally have longer reach, bigger hands, feet, hips and shoulders. Can we agree on this?

 

[DCAllAfrican]

So does a man who transitioned to a woman lose most of that man strength or is their strength level still above someone who was born a woman?

Check da bell curve

 

[osh kosh bosh]

So does a man who transitioned to a woman lose most of that man strength or is their strength level still above someone who was born a woman?

if you are on hormone therapy for more than 2 years you will lose all of it.

if they remove their testes, then they have even lower testostrone then average women.




the argument would be more compelling if fallon fox was like 6'9 260. something on the extreme end of size bell curve.


but no one is losing sleep over 5'7 fallon fox

 

[osh kosh bosh]

With that logic. Shaq should've never been in the NBA with the likes of Muggsy Bogues. This isn't the issue....

The issue is men generally have longer reach, bigger hands, feet, hips and shoulders. Can we agree on this?

uh...no my logic is some people are tall some people are short but someone being generally taller is no a reason to ban them from competition.


black women generally have longer reaches, than white women, women from high altitude are generally taller than women from america. not a reason to ban peopl

and trans women maybe genrally taller than born women. not a reason to ban people.

 

[Peep Game]

where are all these long limbed mr. fantastic black women at?

 

[osh kosh bosh]

where are all these long limbed mr. fantastic black women at?

people from west african countries have generally longer wingspans, narrower hips, more fast twitch muscle fiber, longer legs, than white europeans.



read the book the Sports Gene if you want to go in depth on the subject. great book.

 

[ninjahood]

Mens skin is 25% thicker than women's

Men also have a larger heart and lungs

If you have two fighters of equal skill and health and physical ability.
You give one thicker skin and a larger heart and lungs thats an advantage.

Again i dont know wat the hormone drugs do but i doubt it decreases the sz of your heart and lungs

There's a reason fire fighting exams and certain military exams are debating on lowering da standards to accommodate women.

Da left position is women & men are interchangeable... Its false but they're so waist deep in their narrative its too late to go back.

 

[SC kid]

Didnt know that....about the exams

[emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji] thicker skin

Dude, this is why you are the MVP on NT

Look it up.

Pretty interesting

 

[DCAllAfrican]

where are all these long limbed mr. fantastic black women at?

Lisa Leslie