Is it Racist?

[superantigen]

Originally Posted by moe200069

J Burner wrote:

"i don't mean to be a stickler," but there's a difference in challenging racism with parody and confirming racism with parody...

i am very well aware that this is a comedy sketch that attempts to exaggerate the stereotypes of certain races, and many comedians and shows do this -dave chappelle being the first to come to mind. although both hosts offer some sort of social commentary on race, to me (notice i said "me" and did not generalize to "people") there is a stark difference between dave chappelle's humor/skits and this guy's. i think the difference lies in the fact that, whereas dave chappelle is guilty of playing up stereotypes about blacks, his skits will often dispel or at least challenge those same racist notions by offering a multitude of depictions of black characters in his skits.

what i don't find funny about the video OP posted was that it just attempts to highlight how whites and blacks are different, not in regards to each races' history but rather the lifestyles of each race. the premise of skit is very simple in that it operates on a standard compare and contrast of two races; but anyone can do that, and it'd probably be more witty than what this guy did. and whereas it's not his intention and purpose for the video, the host inadvertantly asserts that the values of whites are correct and the "standard" compared to those others. the "correct," "white" values are IRAs, trust funds, college degrees, and so forth. painted in contrast to these values are the "incorrect," "laughable," "black" values, which are money and jewelery. and although there is no true "white" or "black" lifestyle, let's be real, there is a hand-(bowl-/pot-/nation-)ful of people who want to believe that this is how black people and culture are. sure this is supposed to be a parody and he's being sarcastic, but this aint comedy, it's white privilege under the guise of comedy.

im not saying that dude needs to be Captain Socially Conscious/Captain Save A Race with his comedy, but don't capitalize on racists skits and say nothing about it while playing it off as "it's just comedy." im sure this dude is usually pretty funny, but this skit...eh. he could have been more creative.






Great Point...

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[kidfly sniperelite007]

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

NooEra wrote:

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AntonLaVey wrote:

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Iansmk wrote:

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He got played multiple times.


WOW

actually, he was introducing each person to the guy that was shaking peoples hands...it does look like he's getting played tho...lol




http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a172/thegoat1218/?action=view&current=racist.gif

 

[moe200069]

Originally Posted by PoeGrits

Originally Posted by SuperAntigen

Originally Posted by moe200069

J Burner wrote:

"i don't mean to be a stickler," but there's a difference in challenging racism with parody and confirming racism with parody...

i am very well aware that this is a comedy sketch that attempts to exaggerate the stereotypes of certain races, and many comedians and shows do this -dave chappelle being the first to come to mind. although both hosts offer some sort of social commentary on race, to me (notice i said "me" and did not generalize to "people") there is a stark difference between dave chappelle's humor/skits and this guy's. i think the difference lies in the fact that, whereas dave chappelle is guilty of playing up stereotypes about blacks, his skits will often dispel or at least challenge those same racist notions by offering a multitude of depictions of black characters in his skits.

what i don't find funny about the video OP posted was that it just attempts to highlight how whites and blacks are different, not in regards to each races' history but rather the lifestyles of each race. the premise of skit is very simple in that it operates on a standard compare and contrast of two races; but anyone can do that, and it'd probably be more witty than what this guy did. and whereas it's not his intention and purpose for the video, the host inadvertantly asserts that the values of whites are correct and the "standard" compared to those others. the "correct," "white" values are IRAs, trust funds, college degrees, and so forth. painted in contrast to these values are the "incorrect," "laughable," "black" values, which are money and jewelery. and although there is no true "white" or "black" lifestyle, let's be real, there is a hand-(bowl-/pot-/nation-)ful of people who want to believe that this is how black people and culture are. sure this is supposed to be a parody and he's being sarcastic, but this aint comedy, it's white privilege under the guise of comedy.

im not saying that dude needs to be Captain Socially Conscious/Captain Save A Race with his comedy, but don't capitalize on racists skits and say nothing about it while playing it off as "it's just comedy." im sure this dude is usually pretty funny, but this skit...eh. he could have been more creative.

Great Point...

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daniel tosh>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.you
he didnt say anything about black/white
"people with big chains n flashy jewelry tend to be the worst tippers"


hmmm i guess he didn't say anything about black/white...i mean he only proposed the question "is this racist?" and then ended his video comicallywith "www....whitesrule."

video must not be about race whatsoever.

 

[blacklion23]

Originally Posted by sooperhooper

Originally Posted by Iansmk

After extensive review, he's introducing the man on his side to the line of gentlemen. He's basically 'presenting' the next person to him.
joint is mad ambiguous tho, word to the 'helping the lady down the stairs' pic. I just refused to believe that that many men would be so fickle.
Took me a minute to figure it out tho.

 

[gello 201]

Didn't see any generalizations (besides tipping comment). Even the tipping comment had no race attached "people wearing big chains" Seemed tobe him vs. that dude. IMO

 

[itsgettinhot]

Originally Posted by moe200069

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by moe200069

Originally Posted by MECKS

but.. the video just shows how the hood mentality really is. its not racist i think, that's just how things are. theres also "whites" with a hood mentality.
its like they only think short term liquid assets, and don't turn to things like bonds, savings, IRA because they dont understand the concepts of planning for the future.

so no. but the way its presented would make it racist... its a state of mind tho. not just becuse the guy wearing a chain is black.

anyone feel me?

all this video did was further promote stereotypes about people who live in the hood. i would go ahead and say that a majority of the people coming from the hood are not wearing chains and counting cash like that, and in no way was this video funny.

moreover, the fact that this white dude ended the segment with the sarcastic joke "www.../whitepeoplerule" makes this clip racial. without that last joke, the video could have been interpreted as a simple contrast between the rapper and the host. however, that last comment turned it into a "this is black thing" versus "this is a white thing." sure, it's supposed to be a parody, but i think the presentation of it is piss poor; a bunch of assuming americans just had their views and notions of "ghetto-black" people confirmed. someone made a comment about "white privilege" here on niketalk, and i think this is a fine example of how white privilege exists: whites have the ability to define and misrepresent/portray the characteristics of other communities and have it accepted as truth.

am i salty over this video? nahh....im just tired of played out generalizations and misrepresentation of people by the white-dominated media

Get over yourself. It was funny. Misrepresentations of people by the white dominated media? A bunch of assuming Americans just had their views and notions of "ghetto-black" people confirmed?

Are you serious man? Its a comedy sketch titled "is it racist?" OP, remove the video and replace it with this dudes statement and ask the same question: Is it racist?

"i don't mean to be a stickler," but there's a difference in challenging racism with parody and confirming racism with parody...

i am very well aware that this is a comedy sketch that attempts to exaggerate the stereotypes of certain races, and many comedians and shows do this -dave chappelle being the first to come to mind. although both hosts offer some sort of social commentary on race, to me (notice i said "me" and did not generalize to "people") there is a stark difference between dave chappelle's humor/skits and this guy's. i think the difference lies in the fact that, whereas dave chappelle is guilty of playing up stereotypes about blacks, his skits will often dispel or at least challenge those same racist notions by offering a multitude of depictions of black characters in his skits.

what i don't find funny about the video OP posted was that it just attempts to highlight how whites and blacks are different, not in regards to each races' history but rather the lifestyles of each race. the premise of skit is very simple in that it operates on a standard compare and contrast of two races; but anyone can do that, and it'd probably be more witty than what this guy did. and whereas it's not his intention and purpose for the video,the host inadvertantly asserts that the values of whites are correct and the "standard" compared to those others. the "correct," "white" values are IRAs, trust funds, college degrees, and so forth. painted in contrast to these values are the "incorrect," "laughable," "black" values, which are money and jewelery. and although there is no true "white" or "black" lifestyle, let's be real, there is a hand-(bowl-/pot-/nation-)ful of people who want to believe that this is how black people and culture are. sure this is supposed to be a parody and he's being sarcastic, but this aint comedy, it's white privilege under the guise of comedy.

im not saying that dude needs to be Captain Socially Conscious/Captain Save A Race with his comedy, but don't capitalize on racists skits and say nothing about it while playing it off as "it's just comedy." im sure this dude is usually pretty funny, but this skit...eh. he could have been more creative.

Maybe it's just me, but I find a big difference between this and a skit by Dave Chapelle. The clown from D4L wasn't acting for a skit. That was him being him. It would probably be offensive if he had someone act like that for the purpose of the skit, but you can't be mad at the host forcallin' a spade a spade.

And maybe not in the D4L video in particular, but how many videos you seen with ignant dudes flaunting money sayin' something along the lines of "Youain't on my level" or "I don't

withanything less than Benjamins" or some bull

like that.

The white dude's video was supposed to be him stuntin'. You don't flash what you got and say other people are doing it better at the same time. It just doesn't work.

 

[18th letter]

at the white guy saying little kids shouldn't have to be killed in order for him to rock diamonds.
All these damn rappers they don't give a +@!@.

 

[the yes guy]

That's how Tosh's humor is, it's all a persona.

 

[frank 7he t4nk]

 

[baybully650]

Originally Posted by Iansmk

I'm too lazy to read through all the pages of this thread, but the president is introducing the other dude to all those guys...he aint getdissed by em.

 

[gtek]

Originally Posted by sooperhooper

Originally Posted by Iansmk

After extensive review, he's introducing the man on his side to the line of gentlemen. He's basically 'presenting' the next person to him.
joint is mad ambiguous tho, word to the 'helping the lady down the stairs' pic. I just refused to believe that that many men would be so fickle.
Took me a minute to figure it out tho.

at people thinking they had something going.

 

[nick0lis]

Originally Posted by moe200069

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by moe200069

Originally Posted by MECKS

but.. the video just shows how the hood mentality really is. its not racist i think, that's just how things are. theres also "whites" with a hood mentality.
its like they only think short term liquid assets, and don't turn to things like bonds, savings, IRA because they dont understand the concepts of planning for the future.

so no. but the way its presented would make it racist... its a state of mind tho. not just becuse the guy wearing a chain is black.

anyone feel me?

all this video did was further promote stereotypes about people who live in the hood. i would go ahead and say that a majority of the people coming from the hood are not wearing chains and counting cash like that, and in no way was this video funny.

moreover, the fact that this white dude ended the segment with the sarcastic joke "www.../whitepeoplerule" makes this clip racial. without that last joke, the video could have been interpreted as a simple contrast between the rapper and the host. however, that last comment turned it into a "this is black thing" versus "this is a white thing." sure, it's supposed to be a parody, but i think the presentation of it is piss poor; a bunch of assuming americans just had their views and notions of "ghetto-black" people confirmed. someone made a comment about "white privilege" here on niketalk, and i think this is a fine example of how white privilege exists: whites have the ability to define and misrepresent/portray the characteristics of other communities and have it accepted as truth.

am i salty over this video? nahh....im just tired of played out generalizations and misrepresentation of people by the white-dominated media

Get over yourself. It was funny. Misrepresentations of people by the white dominated media? A bunch of assuming Americans just had their views and notions of "ghetto-black" people confirmed?

Are you serious man? Its a comedy sketch titled "is it racist?" OP, remove the video and replace it with this dudes statement and ask the same question: Is it racist?

"i don't mean to be a stickler," but there's a difference in challenging racism with parody and confirming racism with parody...

i am very well aware that this is a comedy sketch that attempts to exaggerate the stereotypes of certain races, and many comedians and shows do this -dave chappelle being the first to come to mind. although both hosts offer some sort of social commentary on race, to me (notice i said "me" and did not generalize to "people") there is a stark difference between dave chappelle's humor/skits and this guy's. i think the difference lies in the fact that, whereas dave chappelle is guilty of playing up stereotypes about blacks, his skits will often dispel or at least challenge those same racist notions by offering a multitude of depictions of black characters in his skits.

what i don't find funny about the video OP posted was that it just attempts to highlight how whites and blacks are different, not in regards to each races' history but rather the lifestyles of each race. the premise of skit is very simple in that it operates on a standard compare and contrast of two races; but anyone can do that, and it'd probably be more witty than what this guy did. and whereas it's not his intention and purpose for the video, the host inadvertantly asserts that the values of whites are correct and the "standard" compared to those others. the "correct," "white" values are IRAs, trust funds, college degrees, and so forth. painted in contrast to these values are the "incorrect," "laughable," "black" values, which are money and jewelery. and although there is no true "white" or "black" lifestyle, let's be real, there is a hand-(bowl-/pot-/nation-)ful of people who want to believe that this is how black people and culture are. sure this is supposed to be a parody and he's being sarcastic, but this aint comedy, it's white privilege under the guise of comedy.

im not saying that dude needs to be Captain Socially Conscious/Captain Save A Race with his comedy, but don't capitalize on racists skits and say nothing about it while playing it off as "it's just comedy." im sure this dude is usually pretty funny, but this skit...eh. he could have been more creative.

Originally Posted by MECKS

now your talking about reverse-racism... where whites feel like blacks get more "privilege" ... i ono confusing topic!!!!!!!!!!!

QFT...man, let's not get started on "reverse-racism"

you're trying too hard fam.

 

[38816]

Originally Posted by KIDFLY SniperElite007

Originally Posted by eNPHAN

NooEra wrote:

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AntonLaVey wrote:

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Iansmk wrote:

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He got played multiple times.

WOW

actually, he was introducing each person to the guy that was shaking peoples hands...it does look like he's getting played tho...lol




http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a172/thegoat1218/?action=view&current=racist.gif
fix your pic.

i saw the explaination on like CNN or something

 

[docdoon]

lol

 

[skip2mylou23]

That was pretty funny and kind of true.

 

[ramzs8906]

It got slightly prejudice when he started talking about "THis is tipping" but other than that, I don't think it was racist... Cause he'stalking about the racCoon who was making it rain for no reason... and not all black people...

 

[dmoney82]

 

[sneakerfan93]

Originally Posted by Iansmk

at first when I thought the white guys ingnored him

That vid was funny

 

[supervillain]

Originally Posted by Iansmk

Owned

 

[dirtylicious]

that's the advantage of being in the dominant group... you get to decide what is and isn't offensive....b/c you ARE society

 

[i be john mayer]

Originally Posted by ItsGettinHot

Originally Posted by moe200069

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by moe200069

Originally Posted by MECKS

but.. the video just shows how the hood mentality really is. its not racist i think, that's just how things are. theres also "whites" with a hood mentality.
its like they only think short term liquid assets, and don't turn to things like bonds, savings, IRA because they dont understand the concepts of planning for the future.

so no. but the way its presented would make it racist... its a state of mind tho. not just becuse the guy wearing a chain is black.

anyone feel me?

all this video did was further promote stereotypes about people who live in the hood. i would go ahead and say that a majority of the people coming from the hood are not wearing chains and counting cash like that, and in no way was this video funny.

moreover, the fact that this white dude ended the segment with the sarcastic joke "www.../whitepeoplerule" makes this clip racial. without that last joke, the video could have been interpreted as a simple contrast between the rapper and the host. however, that last comment turned it into a "this is black thing" versus "this is a white thing." sure, it's supposed to be a parody, but i think the presentation of it is piss poor; a bunch of assuming americans just had their views and notions of "ghetto-black" people confirmed. someone made a comment about "white privilege" here on niketalk, and i think this is a fine example of how white privilege exists: whites have the ability to define and misrepresent/portray the characteristics of other communities and have it accepted as truth.

am i salty over this video? nahh....im just tired of played out generalizations and misrepresentation of people by the white-dominated media

Get over yourself. It was funny. Misrepresentations of people by the white dominated media? A bunch of assuming Americans just had their views and notions of "ghetto-black" people confirmed?

Are you serious man? Its a comedy sketch titled "is it racist?" OP, remove the video and replace it with this dudes statement and ask the same question: Is it racist?

"i don't mean to be a stickler," but there's a difference in challenging racism with parody and confirming racism with parody...

i am very well aware that this is a comedy sketch that attempts to exaggerate the stereotypes of certain races, and many comedians and shows do this -dave chappelle being the first to come to mind. although both hosts offer some sort of social commentary on race, to me (notice i said "me" and did not generalize to "people") there is a stark difference between dave chappelle's humor/skits and this guy's. i think the difference lies in the fact that, whereas dave chappelle is guilty of playing up stereotypes about blacks, his skits will often dispel or at least challenge those same racist notions by offering a multitude of depictions of black characters in his skits.

what i don't find funny about the video OP posted was that it just attempts to highlight how whites and blacks are different, not in regards to each races' history but rather the lifestyles of each race. the premise of skit is very simple in that it operates on a standard compare and contrast of two races; but anyone can do that, and it'd probably be more witty than what this guy did. and whereas it's not his intention and purpose for the video,the host inadvertantly asserts that the values of whites are correct and the "standard" compared to those others. the "correct," "white" values are IRAs, trust funds, college degrees, and so forth. painted in contrast to these values are the "incorrect," "laughable," "black" values, which are money and jewelery. and although there is no true "white" or "black" lifestyle, let's be real, there is a hand-(bowl-/pot-/nation-)ful of people who want to believe that this is how black people and culture are. sure this is supposed to be a parody and he's being sarcastic, but this aint comedy, it's white privilege under the guise of comedy.

im not saying that dude needs to be Captain Socially Conscious/Captain Save A Race with his comedy, but don't capitalize on racists skits and say nothing about it while playing it off as "it's just comedy." im sure this dude is usually pretty funny, but this skit...eh. he could have been more creative.

Maybe it's just me, but I find a big difference between this and a skit by Dave Chapelle. The clown from D4L wasn't acting for a skit. That was him being him. It would probably be offensive if he had someone act like that for the purpose of the skit, but you can't be mad at the host for callin' a spade a spade.

And maybe not in the D4L video in particular, but how many videos you seen with ignant dudes flaunting money sayin' something along the lines of "You ain't on my level" or "I don't

with anything less than Benjamins" or some bull

like that.

The white dude's video was supposed to be him stuntin'. You don't flash what you got and say other people are doing it better at the same time. It just doesn't work.

This is how I feel right here. You can't get mad at the host making fun of this dude and others like him. This guy was not making some sketch or playingsome character, he was dead serious. "Benjamin Frak-a-lin, they ain't none of yo' friends." That's the same guy, but he just referredto him as more than one person! I'd make fun of that. He's right about setting up trust funds and putting money away for the future. Real talk thatguy from D4L might have a bit more money than Tosh, but we'll see who's caking 10 yrs. from now. Dude completely ripped apart the entire mentalitybehind "making it rain" and flaunting your cash and we really can't act lik it's white people who are cornering the market in this type ofbehavior. Real talk this guy SET HIMSELF UP FOR RIDICULE. He did it to himself, and the whitesrule thing at the end was just him being overtlycontreversial.

At the end of the day, black people be doing some stupid %$#+, and I as a Black man am glad that dude just called on it. Hopefully more people get called onthis kind of behavior, but that won't happen because the people that Moe200069 are refering to actually don't want us to get called out for doing thiskind of stuff so we feel it's acceptable when in actuality it is NOT.

Bravo, Tosh. Bravo.

 

[j burner]

Originally Posted by ItsGettinHot

Originally Posted by moe200069

Originally Posted by J Burner

Originally Posted by moe200069

Originally Posted by MECKS

but.. the video just shows how the hood mentality really is. its not racist i think, that's just how things are. theres also "whites" with a hood mentality.
its like they only think short term liquid assets, and don't turn to things like bonds, savings, IRA because they dont understand the concepts of planning for the future.

so no. but the way its presented would make it racist... its a state of mind tho. not just becuse the guy wearing a chain is black.

anyone feel me?

all this video did was further promote stereotypes about people who live in the hood. i would go ahead and say that a majority of the people coming from the hood are not wearing chains and counting cash like that, and in no way was this video funny.

moreover, the fact that this white dude ended the segment with the sarcastic joke "www.../whitepeoplerule" makes this clip racial. without that last joke, the video could have been interpreted as a simple contrast between the rapper and the host. however, that last comment turned it into a "this is black thing" versus "this is a white thing." sure, it's supposed to be a parody, but i think the presentation of it is piss poor; a bunch of assuming americans just had their views and notions of "ghetto-black" people confirmed. someone made a comment about "white privilege" here on niketalk, and i think this is a fine example of how white privilege exists: whites have the ability to define and misrepresent/portray the characteristics of other communities and have it accepted as truth.

am i salty over this video? nahh....im just tired of played out generalizations and misrepresentation of people by the white-dominated media

Get over yourself. It was funny. Misrepresentations of people by the white dominated media? A bunch of assuming Americans just had their views and notions of "ghetto-black" people confirmed?

Are you serious man? Its a comedy sketch titled "is it racist?" OP, remove the video and replace it with this dudes statement and ask the same question: Is it racist?

"i don't mean to be a stickler," but there's a difference in challenging racism with parody and confirming racism with parody...

i am very well aware that this is a comedy sketch that attempts to exaggerate the stereotypes of certain races, and many comedians and shows do this -dave chappelle being the first to come to mind. although both hosts offer some sort of social commentary on race, to me (notice i said "me" and did not generalize to "people") there is a stark difference between dave chappelle's humor/skits and this guy's. i think the difference lies in the fact that, whereas dave chappelle is guilty of playing up stereotypes about blacks, his skits will often dispel or at least challenge those same racist notions by offering a multitude of depictions of black characters in his skits.

what i don't find funny about the video OP posted was that it just attempts to highlight how whites and blacks are different, not in regards to each races' history but rather the lifestyles of each race. the premise of skit is very simple in that it operates on a standard compare and contrast of two races; but anyone can do that, and it'd probably be more witty than what this guy did. and whereas it's not his intention and purpose for the video,the host inadvertantly asserts that the values of whites are correct and the "standard" compared to those others. the "correct," "white" values are IRAs, trust funds, college degrees, and so forth. painted in contrast to these values are the "incorrect," "laughable," "black" values, which are money and jewelery. and although there is no true "white" or "black" lifestyle, let's be real, there is a hand-(bowl-/pot-/nation-)ful of people who want to believe that this is how black people and culture are. sure this is supposed to be a parody and he's being sarcastic, but this aint comedy, it's white privilege under the guise of comedy.

im not saying that dude needs to be Captain Socially Conscious/Captain Save A Race with his comedy, but don't capitalize on racists skits and say nothing about it while playing it off as "it's just comedy." im sure this dude is usually pretty funny, but this skit...eh. he could have been more creative.

Maybe it's just me, but I find a big difference between this and a skit by Dave Chapelle. The clown from D4L wasn't acting for a skit. That was him being him. It would probably be offensive if he had someone act like that for the purpose of the skit, but you can't be mad at the host for callin' a spade a spade.

And maybe not in the D4L video in particular, but how many videos you seen with ignant dudes flaunting money sayin' something along the lines of "You ain't on my level" or "I don't

with anything less than Benjamins" or some bull

like that.

The white dude's video was supposed to be him stuntin'. You don't flash what you got and say other people are doing it better at the same time. It just doesn't work.

ItsGettin Hot gets it, so does I be John Mayer. Tosh didn't make the JU video and post it online, JU did. If anybody is confirming any stereotypes orgeneralizations, its JU, by making and posting his video for the world to see. Tosh just made his own version of the video, and posed the question....is itracist? Someobody here is trying waaaaaay too hard to prove a non-existant point.

 

[josebronx]

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

that's the advantage of being in the dominant group... you get to decide what is and isn't offensive....b/c you RE society

WHITE people

I want to see what this guy has to say about hispanics.


The guy in the video tried to play it off as if every white person and every black person has like the ones in the video with the slick comment at the end. Itis racist but I do see the raise awareness point of it.

 

[thousandaire]

Ju my dude....SMH

 

[sneakerpimp2k8]

thats crazy, never saw that before