Kevin Samuels Thread

[KHUFU]

Eye wouldn’t care personally because I don’t get offended easily. But that is in fact true. Men are just as insecure and fragile as we claim women can be but in different ways, and when it comes to sex, they definitely have ammo to hurt our feelings.

Man, do they have some ammo for yo' behind....

 

[tay1]

 

[chitownknight]

I've said this on this site before. I wish that women were welcomed here by the male members.

I wish that they could have a thread called Nine inches and above only.

That would be fantastic. I'd love to see how uncomfortable many of these members would be on here.

But by that standard then we could have a thread about only big asses and **** in here which we dont. I mean you have everything else in mainstream media cant let us have just this one lol

 

[Present]

All this, "White Women do nothing for me" talk by KHUFU

I wish there was a way I could lock you up in a room with one to see how that would play out.

 

[marikomorose]

I ask them all the time

Age too, I've never understood the stigma revolving around either & no ones ever explained it to me.

As mentioned in my previous post there are weight restrictions/physical requirements for various functions and professions in society. There are weight restrictions for sky diving. You may love hefty women, but I don't. That doesn't mean I'm "fat phobic" or propagating negative stereotypes.

I use to work at an amusement & the very fat ppl were mad annoying b/c they knew they couldn't fit on the ride, but they'd try to get on anyway, holding up the line, ppl would start getting quiet watching and listening as we tried to push the lever down b/c they insist on believing they'd fit Just putting everyone involved in an unnecessarily awkward position. "B-b-but iT wORkeD LasT TiMe." Just leave.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

ahat
A aham

 

[jape]

this thread

 

[jape]

Age too, I've never understood the stigma revolving around either & no ones ever explained it to me.

women are insecure about their age and weight. simple as that.
i understand how some are about their weight but age is a beautiful thing imo
should be proud of it

 

[tomdiginson]

We are not talking function here, we are discussing imagery. Samuels asked the question of how she looks, how much she weighs, in order to strike down the supposed qualifications she was requesting. It was fat phobic, it was indeed sexist and misogynist. The perception is indeed that if she had looked a certain way, that she would not be qualified to date or marry as she wanted.

Since we do live in a patriarchy, that sort of bullcrap will fly.

His question had absolutely nothing to do with a job, nor function under rules of safety.

It's qualifications based off his definition. Which some men tend to agree with. You have your own requirements for your women. So do I. Telling someone they're overweight is not considered fat phobic. It's called telling the truth. Based off what you're saying... telling a heroin addict who says they want to marry an individual who is a billionaire that their standards are too high (especially in their current condition) and that they should come down to earth is considered some kind of phobia.

 

[ahat]

Thats the hunter from Jumanji

Coach Hubie huh

 

[Nouss]

I remember yall said that Asian dude look like Lil Wayne.

 

[KHUFU]

It's qualifications based off his definition. Which some men tend to agree with. You have your own requirements for your women. So do I. Telling someone they're overweight is not considered fat phobic. It's called telling the truth. Based off what you're saying... telling a heroin addict who says they want to marry an individual who is a billionaire that their standards are too high (especially in their current condition) and that they should come down to earth is considered some kind of phobia.

Requirements?! Do you OWN these women? Do these women OWE you something?

Your comment reeks of entitlement.

 

[KHUFU]

That was embarrassing. He has his trophy, and he is proud of that.

 

[KHUFU]

NT doesn't need any women to start that debate, mods have been in a constant struggle to suppress pipe print discussions from getting outta hand. If it were greenlit, I could already see the buffoonery playing out....

NT Official Platano Measuring Thread Vol. Tall, Grande, or Venti?

THE MANDINGO THREAD!!!!!
WHO IS MEASURING UP?!

Oh man, you think that many of these fools are up in arms about having too many Black threads now?

 

[Coromanti]

I always try to find the intended meaning behind a sentence that maybe didn't come out right. For better or worse, I genuinely try to get what a person meant instead of the specific words they used. I'm kind've stumped. He may have meant that he's proud of his woman no matter her color and he doesn't care that his family is mixed but I think that's kind've a reach.

 

[tomdiginson]

Requirements?! Do you OWN these women? Do these women OWE you something?

Your comment reeks of entitlement.

You're getting emotional and reaching. Nothing I said has anything to do with entitlement. Ownership has nothing to do with having standards. Go re-read the post instead of trying to pick out parts of it to quickly disagree with. Everyone has their own set of standards of what they will tolerate or accept. To say by having some level of standard for yourself equates to being entitled is nonsense. Just say you hate Kevin Samuels and you won't agree with anything he says even if it's 2+2=4. It sounds more truthful instead of these narratives and associations that you're coming up with.

 

[KHUFU]

You're getting emotional and reaching. Nothing I said has anything to do with entitlement. Ownership has nothing to do with having standards. Go re-read the post instead of trying to pick out parts of an argument to quickly disagree with insteadof reading the entirety of it. Everyone has their own set of standards of what they will tolerate or accept. To say by having some level of standard for yourself is equatable to being entitled is nonsense. Just say you hate Kevin Samuels and you won't agree with anything he says even if it's 2+2=4. It sounds more truthful instead of these narratives and associations that you're coming up with.

Emotional? It's called logic, and your reasoning skills are indeed flawed here. Your entire post reeks of entitlement, and just like an egotist? You refuse to see it. You use the term emotional as if that is some sort of insult, well, it isn't. Your comment is in the same vein as telling someone that they are acting like a woman, if they are using empathy as a tool of understanding.

This is exactly why I wish there was a MANDINGO thread for women only, here on NikeTalk.

 

[tomdiginson]

Emotional? It's called logic, and your reasoning skills are indeed flawed here. Your entire post reeks of entitlement, and just like an egotist? You refuse to see it. You use the term emotional as if that is some sort of insult, well, it isn't. Your comment is in the same vein as telling someone that they are acting like a woman, if they are using empathy as a tool of understanding.

This is exactly why I wish there was a MANDINGO thread for women only, here on NikeTalk.

How is having a set of standards for yourself equitable to being an egotist? I don't want to marry someone who does heroin, that means I'm an egotist and full of myself? You were just defending the right of an obese woman to have their own set of standards no matter how illogical they are and now you're backtracking from it? You would be lying to yourself if you were say that you don't have your own set of requirements. Telling someone they're acting with emotion in an instance that doesn't call for it instead of using logic isn't an insult. It's correction, so if you equate it to being an insult or think it has some form of connotation(additional meaning) in this instance, your wrong and that's stemming from you're own preconceived notions.

 

[marikomorose]

I always try to find the intended meaning behind a sentence that maybe didn't come out right. For better or worse, I genuinely try to get what a person meant instead of the specific words they used. I'm kind've stumped. He may have meant that he's proud of his woman no matter her color and he doesn't care that his family is mixed but I think that's kind've a reach.

I saw that video on WS last night & had similar thoughts, and then I checked twitter this morning & they confirmed that I wasn't trippin

 

[KHUFU]

How is having a set of standards for yourself equitable to being an egotist? So I don't want to marry someone who does heroin, that means I'm an egotist? You were just defending the right of an obese woman to have their own set of standards no matter how illogical they are and now you're backtracking from it? Telling someone they're acting with emotion in an instance that doesn't call for it instead of using logic isn't an insult. It's correction, so if you equate it to being an insult or think it has some form of connotation(additional meaning) in this instance your wrong and that's stemming from you're own preconceived notions.

There is indeed inequality in this society, and that inequality favors men, am I right?

I just want to get things clear, as to what it is I am defending.

I empathize with women due to unfair societal standard that are held for them due to oppression.

Are women oppressed in this society?

I've said this before on this thread, up until the late seventies, Women were not allowed to get a home owners loan, nor being able to apply for a credit card, without a MAN cosigning for such. On this day, Women are still not allowed to own their own bodies, not being able, legally mind you, to have certain medical procedures on their reproductive systems, without men cosigning such as well.

So, now let's talk about these standards.

Has religion influenced these standards that you speak of?

I get it, you only want a woman to look the way you want her to look. Fine.

But I guess a good question to ask is this, are your requirements conditional?

I cannot tell you what to like, nor how to be...but you cannot tell women what they should want, nor what they should be looking to attain, if this is what you are doing yourself.

Therein lies the hypocrisy.

 

[tomdiginson]

There is indeed inequality in this society, and that inequality favors men, am I right?

I just want to get things clear, as to what it is I am defending.

I empathize with women due to unfair societal standard that are held for them due to oppression.

Are women oppressed in this society?

I've said this before on this thread, up until the late seventies, Women were not allowed to get a home owners loan, nor being able to apply for a credit card, without a MAN cosigning for such. On this day, Women are still not allowed to own their own bodies, not being able, legally mind you, to have certain medical procedures on their reproductive systems, without men cosigning such as well.

So, now let's talk about these standards.

Has religion influenced these standards that you speak of?

I get it, you only want a woman to look the way you want her to look. Fine.

But I guess a good question to ask is this, are your requirements conditional?

I cannot tell you what to like, nor how to be...but you cannot tell women what they should want, nor what they should be looking to attain, if this is what you are doing yourself.

Therein lies the hypocrisy.

Where are you getting my requirements from? How do you know that I don't want a woman with a heart-shaped birthmark on her foot? Again everyone has standards. They vary from person to person. Religion, politics, heritage, finances, hobbies, lifestyle, looks etc dictate it. However, someone can have standards that are illogical. If you have a child who's grades are terrible, but they want to go to a dream school which they don't meet the requirements for. Should they just keep applying to said school every year even though they don't meet the requirements and haven't done anything to change the circumstance because that is the standard that they have set for themself? Or would you recommend they look at another school and/or get their grades up and then transferring out? The concept is the same as what Samuels is saying regarding some of the women he is dealing with that are calling into his show. Imagine being 5'2 250 and stating that your future spouse has to be well built and makes 5 million dollars a year. Is it their right to have that want and standard for themself? Yes, but it is a pipe dream. Telling someone that they are hindering themselves with unrealistic standards isn't a form of shaming. If you really want to help someone don't tell them they are right when they are indeed wrong.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

KHUFU

When it comes to weight (being overweight), if we were in a non patriarchal society how would our tastes/acceptances change?

I come in peace.

 

[KHUFU]

KHUFU

When it comes to weight (being overweight), if we were in a non patriarchal society how would our tastes/acceptances change?

I come in peace.

If you look at art throughout the history of the world, tastes in regard to shape and beauty has changed over time. It wasn't until the emergence of the abrahamic faiths conquering throughout the world, have women become de sexualized, less curvaceous. A zaftig figure was the standard of femininity in certain part of the world before the crusades, and we do know that in certain countries in Africa, they'd worry about a woman if she appeared too thin.

So to answer your question, yes. With women in control of their own imagery, women would then be able to control the narrative on what THEY deem to be attractive. Society would indeed be conditioned differently.

 

[KHUFU]

Where are you getting my requirements from? How do you know that I don't want a woman with a heart-shaped birthmark on her foot? Again everyone has standards. They vary from person to person. Religion, politics, heritage, finances, hobbies, lifestyle, looks etc dictate it. However, someone can have standards that are illogical. If you have a child who's grades are terrible, but they want to go to a dream school which they don't meet the requirements for. Should they just keep applying to said school every year even though they don't meet the requirements and haven't done anything to change the circumstance because that is the standard that they have set for themself? Or would you recommend they look at another school and/or get their grades up and then transferring out? The concept is the same as what Samuels is saying regarding some of the women he is dealing with that are calling into his show. Imagine being 5'2 250 and stating that your future spouse has to be well built and makes 5 million dollars a year. Is it their right to have that want and standard for themself? Yes, but it is a pipe dream. Telling someone that they are hindering themselves with unrealistic standards isn't a form of shaming. If you really want to help someone don't tell them they are right when they are indeed wrong.

Are women oppressed in this society? Do women have the same rights to demand what they want, as you do yourself?

I don't think that I need to know your requirements, in order for me to ask, nor for you to answer these questions.

 

[tomdiginson]

Are women oppressed in this society? Do women have the same rights to demand what they want, as you do yourself?

I don't think that I need to know your requirements, in order for me to ask, nor for you to answer these questions.

Women are oppressed in society and they have the right to make demands, but that still doesn't change the fact that someone can have unrealistic demands/standards and expectations. And this goes for both men and women. Also, don't play daft. You made an assumption regarding my requirements by stating the following below which is why I told you you don't know my standards.

I get it, you only want a woman to look the way you want her to look. Fine.