Kevin Samuels Thread

[nyc game]

You are moving the goalposts. You've done it numerous times. Go look back. You're arguments are all over the place. You went from arguing about rating systems of the world to arguing about women's weight to getting emotional about people having standards. You're starting to sound like a pandering Van Jones and Derrick Jackson rolled into one. If you really care about women especially black women, you won't tell them lies in order to appear as an ally.

Another reaching statement and bad comparison. Try again. If you really care about women especially black women that you so call profess to love, don't tell them lies. You laughed and criticized Derrick Jackson, but here you are doing the same thing.

Oh ish, this just got real personal. Not Derrick "Black men don't cheat" Jaxn. The guy who was throwing men under the bus and telling women that he's this god fearing Christian and then when some side chick airs him out he blames his behavior on his waivering faith in god.

 

[ahat]

One of the funniest things in this thread is Hubert posting pics from the gym, in a thread that has nothing to do with fitness. Yet in the fitness thread he calls those who post pics/vids "egomaniacs".



hilarious

 

[nyc game]

FWIW:

Went to Hampton University.

On the Yard talking in a group (half male / half female).

One of the young ladies sees a darker skinned brother walk past and makes a comment.

Her friend says: "I like my men light, bright, and close to white."

This is an HBCU.

An HBCU that at one time engaged in "paper bag tests"... and later less obvious but much more dubious methods of prejudice / discrimination that continue to this day.

Colorism is defined as:

"prejudice or discrimination against individuals with a dark skin tone, typically among people of the same ethnic or racial group."

While I agree that young lady had every right to like what she liked, I in turn have every right to dislike her based on what she said.

I mean, I get where you're coming from, but at the same time here's what I don't get.
I hear black women, Dark and Lightskin (I've even seen tic toks where white women say they prefer men the color of dark chocolate) They constantly say things like "Light Skin guys are weak, pushovers, feminine, etc" and you know what I never hear from other Dark skin black guys? "That ain't true, that's a generalization" They will agree and defend this females comments even go as far to say it's "facts" Why is it that when somebody prefer's a dark skin individual it's Empowering and just their preference. When it's a choice of a person if a lighter hue it's colorist?

Can we all as black people keep the same energy? As Charlamange the god would say.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

^ Probably the same way that Big Girls wouldn't disagree with dudes that say they prefer bigger women. Men that say that aren't accused of "Making everything about weight."

In short, if you roll with the "underdog" you will never be accused of being ______ (Insert -ist word that applies)

That's just how it is.

 

[nyc game]

Women are more comfortable around you, jobs are more likely to hire you, cops are less likely to shoot you, it's not that bad

Is this really what you think a light skin guys life it like?
Boy how I wish my life was like how dark skin blacks see it, man I'd be set.
Listen, if that's what you guys want to believe, who am I to tell you how life is like for a person who actually lives this life, I mean I've never gotten hired over a dark skin person to my knowledge, as a matter of fact I've gotten all of my dark skin friends interviews which they got jobs, Cops don't care about my complexion, do you even read the news online? I do I look up officer involved shootings all the time, partly because i'm a weirdo, and partly because they seem interesting. But most of the light skin males getting aggressive (or not) were getting popped left and right just like their dark counterparts. And at least three people gave you examples of women preferring dark skin men over light skin, but you still believe women just flock to us because they are receiving benefits of good hair and light eyes and pretty child privilage. I'm light skin not white, sorry, your fantasies don't match up to my reality.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I mean I've never gotten hired over a dark skin person to my knowledge, as a matter of fact I've gotten all of my dark skin friends interviews which they got jobs,

How WOULD you even know of something like that to begin with?

 

[nyc game]

How WOULD you even know of something like that to begin with?

I wouldn't but I do know there were managers that were darker than me, in manager positions, and I was not, I know i've been "Let go" from jobs that I know first hand the darker skinned manager was abusing their power and doing things like sleeping in the back room taking breaks when they shouldn't, but I got let go before they ever did.

We both wouldn't know, Neither I nor YOU have a magic 8-ball and that's why I said TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

 

[Present]

Reading over these pages an old racist white person from the 1600's would be mega proud.

Operation divide and conquer is still in full effect.

Here we are proudly arguing over scraps while the real problem is at the table feasting.

Thread started out about Kevin Samuels - a black man finding success on YouTube after at least 5 years of content, and ends up on some Willie Lynch ****.

Dark Skin vs Light Skin

Black man vs Black woman

Ancient ancestors vs modern day

Flowered Jeans vs Chelsea Boots

Is it just plain old tribalism?

Crabs in a barrel who hate to see a black man succeed?

Am I giving White Superiority too much credit?

 

[Present]

I mean, I get where you're coming from, but at the same time here's what I don't get.
I hear black women, Dark and Lightskin (I've even seen tic toks where white women say they prefer men the color of dark chocolate) They constantly say things like "Light Skin guys are weak, pushovers, feminine, etc" and you know what I never hear from other Dark skin black guys? "That ain't true, that's a generalization" They will agree and defend this females comments even go as far to say it's "facts" Why is it that when somebody prefer's a dark skin individual it's Empowering and just their preference. When it's a choice of a person if a lighter hue it's colorist?

Can we all as black people keep the same energy? As Charlamange the god would say.

Two words:

WHITE

SUPERIORITY

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I wouldn't but I do know there were managers that were darker than me, in manager positions, and I was not, I know i've been "Let go" from jobs that I know first hand the darker skinned manager was abusing their power and doing things like sleeping in the back room taking breaks when they shouldn't, but I got let go before they ever did.

We both wouldn't know, Neither I nor YOU have a magic 8-ball and that's why I said TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

Yea, I know you said that but in general that was just a funny statement to make.

That's all.

Plus you don't know WHY someone got a job.

Technically, nobody here claimed people get jobs SIMPLY BECAUSE of skin-TONE. (Talking about a BLACK person getting the job over another BLACK person).

 

[nyc game]

Reading over these pages an old racist white person from the 1600's would be mega proud.

Operation divide and conquer is still in full effect.

Here we are proudly arguing over scraps while the real problem is at the table feasting.

Thread started out about Kevin Samuels - a black man finding success on YouTube after at least 5 years of content, and ends up on some Willie Lynch ****.

Dark Skin vs Light Skin

Black man vs Black woman

Ancient ancestors vs modern day

Flowered Jeans vs Chelsea Boots

Is it just plain old tribalism?

Crabs in a barrel who hate to see a black man succeed?

Am I giving White Superiority too much credit?

At some point we can't blame this on white supremacy, if blacks are actively playing re occurring roles in the division and chaos can we? We got internet hoteps preaching and people like Dr. Umar Johnson taking donations making promises of building schools but haven't produced anything yet.
Everyones big on social media activisim.

 

[Present]

At some point we can't blame this on white supremacy, if blacks are actively playing re occurring roles in the division and chaos can we? We got internet hoteps preaching and people like Dr. Umar Johnson taking donations making promises of building schools but haven't produced anything yet.
Everyones big on social media activisim.

Really?

So in your mind "Internet Hoteps" and Dr. Umar Johnson are enough to dismiss White Superiority...something even white people themselves cannot do?

 

[nyc game]

Yea, I know you said that but in general that was just a funny statement to make.

That's all.

Plus you don't know WHY someone got a job.

Technically, nobody here claimed people get jobs SIMPLY BECAUSE of skin-TONE. (Talking about a BLACK person getting the job over another BLACK person).

How exactly is it funny?

Second, I never said I knew WHY, I said I put their name in and they were HIRED, as in the person excepting the application didn't look at him and say "You're darker than him, sorry the position is filled"

I'm not sure where the disconnect is, either you'r trying to troll or be funny, I guess it's your shtick or you just reading out of context.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt but the conversation took place because the based god guy said that Light skin guys were getting jobs over dark skin guys, If you would have read that you would understand the conversation and it's relation to my reply.

Again, i'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are NOT trying to have a disingenuous conversation., but something say's I'm wasting my time.

 

[nyc game]

Really?

So in your mind "Internet Hoteps" and Dr. Umar Johnson are enough to dismiss White Superiority...something even white people themselves cannot do?

Strawman fallacy - Instead of attacking MY argument, you create another argument (not made by me) and attack that one instead.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

People just eat this division **** up.

Human instinct.

 

[trynafeelmink]

^ Probably the same way that Big Girls wouldn't disagree with dudes that say they prefer bigger women. Men that say that aren't accused of "Making everything about weight."

In short, if you roll with the "underdog" you will never be accused of being ______ (Insert -ist word that applies)

That's just how it is.

THIS

I see it on social media all the time especially when it comes to any lightskin woman who speaks on her struggles with colorism... it's disregarded because people have these pre conceived notions.

Like you mentioned the same dynamic happens with fat vs skinny..... it's rude & distasteful.... fatphobic to say anything about fat people. Yet it's clear path to insult & disregard issues skinny people face because it's viewed as a less prominent issue.

People pick & choose when they want to have empathy & understanding for a group based on how they relate to said group. I'm not actually saying that's wrong..... maybe it's human nature but i wish people would acknowledge it within themselves

 

[DCAllAfrican]

.

Essentially, I was saying your response to their statements doesn't "disprove" anything.

We can keep it at that

I wasn't trolling but we can move on. Not worth it.

 

[Present]

Strawman fallacy - Instead of attacking MY argument, you create another argument (not made by me) and attack that one instead.

I'm not doing this with you.

I said what I said, I posted what I posted.

If you agree...Great!

If you disagree...Great!

 

[trynafeelmink]

Really?

So in your mind "Internet Hoteps" and Dr. Umar Johnson are enough to dismiss White Superiority...something even white people themselves cannot do?

I'll start this by saying i lean way more Hotep than whatever this new form of black "leadership" suggest

But i think the answer is somewhere in the middle, We can't downplay white superiority & it's long lasting effects in every industry. EVERYTHING in this country is white washed & set up in order to keep a certain CLASS at the top (that class is obviously still predominately white).

With that said, this ain't a secret & we all know this & in a time where it's more imperative than ever to stick together notice how a big percentage of these new age activist are trying to splinter black people into even bigger quarrels

gay vs straight, gay vs trans, man vs women, young vs old etc etc and instead of calling the BS out & stopping it we flame it on & it leads to no progress.

 

[nyc game]

THIS

I see it on social media all the time especially when it comes to any lightskin woman who speaks on her struggles with colorism... it's disregarded because people have these pre conceived notions.

Like you mentioned the same dynamic happens with fat vs skinny..... it's rude & distasteful.... fatphobic to say anything about fat people. Yet it's clear path to insult & disregard issues skinny people face because it's viewed as a less prominent issue.

People pick & choose when they want to have empathy & understanding for a group based on how they relate to said group. I'm not actually saying that's wrong..... maybe it's human nature but i wish people would acknowledge it within themselves

Essentially, I was saying your response to their statements doesn't "disprove" anything.

We can keep it at that

I wasn't trolling but we can move on. Not worth it.

What i'm saying doesn't prove their point either if we really want to look at it that way.

We can move on, i'm not forcing you to reply to me. I just want to know if you're being serious or if you're just trying to get likes and laughing emoji's from your peers because that's what people do here, not a shot at anyone as i'm assuming most of the posters here are still relatively young.

However I don't like it when people try to purposely conflate what i'm saying just so they can do this little high school thing and get their rocks off.

 

[nyc game]

I'm not doing this with you.

I said what I said, I posted what I posted.

If you agree...Great!

If you disagree...Great!

You starting this "THING" so Idk what you're talking about. You literally took what I said and made a different argument to argue against. LOL

You sure did said what you said, and I responded to it like it was supposed to be responded to.

Oh I definitely disagree with what you were trying to make my point into, because all I'm alluding to is that there are a ton of blacks on social media who like to armchair preach and tell other people what they should do and shouldn't do but never show by actions.

 

[Present]

I'll start this by saying i lean way more Hotep than whatever this new form of black "leadership" suggest

But i think the answer is somewhere in the middle, We can't downplay white superiority & it's long lasting effects in every industry. EVERYTHING in this country is white washed & set up in order to keep a certain CLASS at the top (that class is obviously still predominately white).

With that said, this ain't a secret & we all know this & in a time where it's more imperative than ever to stick together notice how a big percentage of these new age activist are trying to splinter black people into even bigger quarrels

gay vs straight, gay vs trans, man vs women, young vs old etc etc and instead of calling the BS out & stopping it we flame it on & it leads to no progress.

I'm a simple person.

We can spray all the Febreeze, light all the sage, and open all the windows...

As long as the turd is on the floor - the house will continue to stink.

Aint no middle in that.

 

[trynafeelmink]

I'm a simple person.

We can spray all the Febreeze, light all the sage, and open all the windows...

As long as the turd is on the floor - the house will continue to stink.

Aint no middle in that.

If i got your analogy correct, my response is

If you know the owners of the house enjoy the smell why would you expect them to clean it up.

We either build a new house or cleanup the **** in the house for our own benefit.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Yea, there is no way, "Black people can get rid of the colorist attitudes" when they live in a WORLD that does anything of the sorts.

Like I always say, some of yall live in this fantasy world where you believe all it takes is Positive Thoughts/VIbes to change things.

Nah man.

 

[DCAllAfrican]