Let's look at the Ten Commandments, shall we?

Originally Posted by Diego

I dont understand why all the hate on OP.

Maybe if he wouldve came in here talking about how Jay Z controls the world and how Drake is the son of the sun and all this illuminati crap, everyone would have applauded him for "dropping knowledge".


...Go figure.



I didnt really learn anything from OPs post though. It didnt expand my mind, didnt open up anything I hadn't thought of before. He really provided nothing. Im not even bashing him, I actually agree with him in most of what he said. But it didn't give me a new angle or perspective.
 
Originally Posted by lobotomybeats



Yo OP you lucky i dont know where you be at, The kid feels like you need help how you gonna diss the book of god!!

That book was written too long ago and you have the nerve to diss it??


I'm lucky you don't know where I live? Please dude.  So will you beat the love of god into me?  Will you smite me with thy heavenly lightening bolt to make me fear they lord?  And what does the age of the book have to do with anything?  "Lucky I don't know where you be at"
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This had me
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Lucky I don't know where you be at? Duke sent me a PM about kicking my ***. Apparently it's that serious.



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Originally Posted by Mr Kuter

Originally Posted by Diego

I dont understand why all the hate on OP.

Maybe if he wouldve came in here talking about how Jay Z controls the world and how Drake is the son of the sun and all this illuminati crap, everyone would have applauded him for "dropping knowledge".


...Go figure.



I didnt really learn anything from OPs post though. It didnt expand my mind, didnt open up anything I hadn't thought of before. He really provided nothing. Im not even bashing him, I actually agree with him in most of what he said. But it didn't give me a new angle or perspective.
That's fine.  Outside of a Late Pass, I've never been critiqued on how much of my information was already known.  It's hard to give someone a new angle when they share yours already.
 
Originally Posted by Mr Kuter

Originally Posted by Diego

I dont understand why all the hate on OP.

Maybe if he wouldve came in here talking about how Jay Z controls the world and how Drake is the son of the sun and all this illuminati crap, everyone would have applauded him for "dropping knowledge".


...Go figure.



I didnt really learn anything from OPs post though. It didnt expand my mind, didnt open up anything I hadn't thought of before. He really provided nothing. Im not even bashing him, I actually agree with him in most of what he said. But it didn't give me a new angle or perspective.

So when people post a picture of Drake and make some far fetched reach to connect him to an owl, you call that learning?
  
 
Originally Posted by Diego

Mr Kuter wrote:


Diego wrote:

I dont understand why all the hate on OP.

Maybe if he wouldve came in here talking about how Jay Z controls the world and how Drake is the son of the sun and all this illuminati crap, everyone would have applauded him for "dropping knowledge".


...Go figure.



I didnt really learn anything from OPs post though. It didnt expand my mind, didnt open up anything I hadn't thought of before. He really provided nothing. Im not even bashing him, I actually agree with him in most of what he said. But it didn't give me a new angle or perspective.

So when people post a picture of Drake and make some far fetched reach to connect him to an owl, you call that learning?
  


Cmon, its more than simply that. What exactly did Lobotomy do but rant honestly?? Was his post really any better than ABH in your eyes???
 
Originally Posted by Mr Kuter

Originally Posted by Diego

Mr Kuter wrote:


Diego wrote:

I dont understand why all the hate on OP.

Maybe if he wouldve came in here talking about how Jay Z controls the world and how Drake is the son of the sun and all this illuminati crap, everyone would have applauded him for "dropping knowledge".


...Go figure.



I didnt really learn anything from OPs post though. It didnt expand my mind, didnt open up anything I hadn't thought of before. He really provided nothing. Im not even bashing him, I actually agree with him in most of what he said. But it didn't give me a new angle or perspective.

So when people post a picture of Drake and make some far fetched reach to connect him to an owl, you call that learning?
  


Was his post really any better than ABH in your eyes???

Was it any worse though?
Cause all the responses would imply that.
I dont see a big difference between the two.

Then again, NT does have that horrible habit of following the lead of the first few posts.
  
 
Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by Mr Kuter

Originally Posted by Diego

I dont understand why all the hate on OP.

Maybe if he wouldve came in here talking about how Jay Z controls the world and how Drake is the son of the sun and all this illuminati crap, everyone would have applauded him for "dropping knowledge".


...Go figure.






I didnt really learn anything from OPs post though. It didnt expand my mind, didnt open up anything I hadn't thought of before. He really provided nothing. Im not even bashing him, I actually agree with him in most of what he said. But it didn't give me a new angle or perspective.
That's fine.  Outside of a Late Pass, I've never been critiqued on how much of my information was already known.  It's hard to give someone a new angle when they share yours already.


Chuuuch. (no pun)
 
Originally Posted by Mr Kuter

Originally Posted by Diego

Mr Kuter wrote:


Diego wrote:

I dont understand why all the hate on OP.

Maybe if he wouldve came in here talking about how Jay Z controls the world and how Drake is the son of the sun and all this illuminati crap, everyone would have applauded him for "dropping knowledge".


...Go figure.



I didnt really learn anything from OPs post though. It didnt expand my mind, didnt open up anything I hadn't thought of before. He really provided nothing. Im not even bashing him, I actually agree with him in most of what he said. But it didn't give me a new angle or perspective.

So when people post a picture of Drake and make some far fetched reach to connect him to an owl, you call that learning?
  


Cmon, its more than simply that. What exactly did Lobotomy do but rant honestly?? Was his post really any better than ABH in your eyes???
You are right, it probably wasn't any better and it was somewhat of a joking rant. But what is wrong with that?
 
Originally Posted by rashi

What crap are you reading? From seeing your previous posts in other threads, I can already see your bias towards anything even remotely associated with Judaism. What you try to to do is read things that will propigate anything to demonize Judaism. I can almost bet that the !$+% you read probably had the Babylionians believing in a G-d that had a name that started with a "Y" and want to discredit YHWH by associating the two and having ZERO proof. The origin of Yahweh goes back further than the Pagan era. Keep studying.
Um, simmer down.

I never even bashed Judaism anywhere. I tolerate and respect all faiths. Show me where I did bash Judaism. Did you miss my point where I think all the monotheistic faiths, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are based out of Babylonic religions? The part I quoted had to do with ancient Jews and how they used to interpret their God. 

My research does not have to do with whatever you are saying about starting a "Y" or something.Don't even know what you are talking about.

The scholarly research I have encountered presents a convincing theory that early Hebrew pagans shared many of the religion beliefs of their neighbors in Canaan and that had believed in the existence of such deities as Marduk, Baal, and Anat. They probably did not pray to all these deities, but the concept of their God went from a polytheist aspect, to a pantheon, and then to a monotheistic concept of God.

If you read throughout the Bible, there are so many references to many Gods.

Why are you so offended? That is what I choose to believe. If I choose to believe that these religious texts were man made and that the prophets were probably most likely annointed themselves as messengers just like David Coresh or who were probably high on drugs preaching to clueless masses, then so be it. That's MY belief. What's it to you if I want to believe this?







  
 
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats



Yo OP you lucky i dont know where you be at, The kid feels like you need help how you gonna diss the book of god!!

That book was written too long ago and you have the nerve to diss it??


I'm lucky you don't know where I live? Please dude.  So will you beat the love of god into me?  Will you smite me with thy heavenly lightening bolt to make me fear they lord?  And what does the age of the book have to do with anything?  "Lucky I don't know where you be at"
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This had me
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Lucky I don't know where you be at? Duke sent me a PM about kicking my ***. Apparently it's that serious.



jesus%20facepalm.png


This is how Crusades start.
 
Originally Posted by Mr Kuter

Originally Posted by Diego

Mr Kuter wrote:


Diego wrote:

I dont understand why all the hate on OP.

Maybe if he wouldve came in here talking about how Jay Z controls the world and how Drake is the son of the sun and all this illuminati crap, everyone would have applauded him for "dropping knowledge".


...Go figure.



I didnt really learn anything from OPs post though. It didnt expand my mind, didnt open up anything I hadn't thought of before. He really provided nothing. Im not even bashing him, I actually agree with him in most of what he said. But it didn't give me a new angle or perspective.

So when people post a picture of Drake and make some far fetched reach to connect him to an owl, you call that learning?
  


 Cmon, its more than simply that. What exactly did Lobotomy do but rant honestly?? Was his post really any better than ABH in your eyes???


A post pointing out organized religion's contradictions is on equal footing to a conspiracy monger's attempt to relate a rapper/TV actor to the illuminati?

I honestly didn't think you idiots could get any worse after the District 9 conspiracy thread, but once again new levels of stupidity are transcended with each new thread you people create.

I hope the Wacka Flocka Illuminati thread isn't too far off. I'll be severely disappointed if I don't see that by the end of the summer.
 
Diego were going to go in circles giving each other opinions. NT is very monkey see monkey do, and I think thats probably the best answer.

Lobotomy I think this post was good. Its interesting how much energy people have given you, as if you literally killed yahweeh or however you spell it. Or that your views have the power to somehow change theirs. Kind of sad actually.

Everyone should watch that movie Unthinkable, the new Sam Jackson movie. It speaks exactly to this. "Its not about them, its about you."
 
Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey

Originally Posted by rashi

What crap are you reading? From seeing your previous posts in other threads, I can already see your bias towards anything even remotely associated with Judaism. What you try to to do is read things that will propigate anything to demonize Judaism. I can almost bet that the !$+% you read probably had the Babylionians believing in a G-d that had a name that started with a "Y" and want to discredit YHWH by associating the two and having ZERO proof. The origin of Yahweh goes back further than the Pagan era. Keep studying.
Um, simmer down.

I never even bashed Judaism anywhere. I tolerate and respect all faiths. Show me where I did bash Judaism. Did you miss my point where I think all the monotheistic faiths, Judaism, Christianity and Islam are based out of Babylonic religions? The part I quoted had to do with ancient Jews and how they used to interpret their God. 

My research does not have to do with whatever you are saying about starting a "Y" or something.Don't even know what you are talking about.

The scholarly research I have encountered presents a convincing theory that early Hebrew pagans shared many of the religion beliefs of their neighbors in Canaan and that had believed in the existence of such deities as Marduk, Baal, and Anat. They probably did not pray to all these deities, but the concept of their God went from a polytheist aspect, to a pantheon, and then to a monotheistic concept of God.

If you read throughout the Bible, there are so many references to many Gods.

Why are you so offended? That is what I choose to believe. If I choose to believe that these religious texts were man made and that the prophets were probably most likely annointed themselves as messengers just like David Coresh or who were probably high on drugs preaching to clueless masses, then so be it. That's MY belief. What's it to you if I want to believe this?







  

Perfect example of what religion does and has been doing for centuries.

  
 
Originally Posted by ninjallamafromhell

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats



Yo OP you lucky i dont know where you be at, The kid feels like you need help how you gonna diss the book of god!!

That book was written too long ago and you have the nerve to diss it??


I'm lucky you don't know where I live? Please dude.  So will you beat the love of god into me?  Will you smite me with thy heavenly lightening bolt to make me fear they lord?  And what does the age of the book have to do with anything?  "Lucky I don't know where you be at"
roll.gif
roll.gif





This had me
roll.gif



Lucky I don't know where you be at? Duke sent me a PM about kicking my ***. Apparently it's that serious.
This is how Crusades start.



I can see the news press now. "Internet beef over religion escalates to full-blown Jihad." Dudes outside my crib with Aks and nail bombs.
 
This is why I don't believe in the white man's bible/religion.

Yes, I'm bias, and religious and a scientist (I have a molecular biologist's view of evolution).
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Edit- Oh ya and I know it's not just white peoples. Like I said I'm bias.
 
Originally Posted by Mr Kuter

Everyone should watch that movie Unthinkable, the new Sam Jackson movie. It speaks exactly to this. "Its not about them, its about you."
that movie was dope
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Originally Posted by TheBachellor

Originally Posted by Mr Kuter

Originally Posted by Diego

Mr Kuter wrote:





Diego wrote:



I dont understand why all the hate on OP.

Maybe if he wouldve came in here talking about how Jay Z controls the world and how Drake is the son of the sun and all this illuminati crap, everyone would have applauded him for "dropping knowledge".


...Go figure.



I didnt really learn anything from OPs post though. It didnt expand my mind, didnt open up anything I hadn't thought of before. He really provided nothing. Im not even bashing him, I actually agree with him in most of what he said. But it didn't give me a new angle or perspective.

So when people post a picture of Drake and make some far fetched reach to connect him to an owl, you call that learning?
  



 
Cmon, its more than simply that. What exactly did Lobotomy do but rant honestly?? Was his post really any better than ABH in your eyes???


A post pointing out organized religion's contradictions is on equal footing to a conspiracy monger's attempt to relate a rapper/TV actor to the illuminati?

I honestly didn't think you idiots could get any worse after the District 9 conspiracy thread, but once again new levels of stupidity are transcended with each new thread you people create.

I hope the Wacka Flocka Illuminati thread isn't too far off. I'll be severely disappointed if I don't see that by the end of the summer.



Conspiracy monger?? Lol so bothered. What makes organized religion "better" than anything else? Its the only thing you deem worth discussing? And it has nothing to do with the illuminati. Thats just what you believe that I believe.
 
Why are people so quick to go at a faith by basing it on the observations of the RELIGION aspect of that faith.

That's like going at Muslims because of the extremists.

I'm a Christian and I can't stand what most of the Church of today stands for. I practice my faith the same way a Buddhist practices his, although I do go to church.

I bet if some of y'all met a cool Christian y'all would change your perspective on some of us.

oh, and btw, The Ten Commandments are practically null and void thanks to Jesus Christ.

The Ten Commandments do nothing but codemn man because we are incapable of reaching those standards. Jesus Christ, however, died for us so that we could be seen as faultless by God.

/rant
 
@lobotomybeats

The 10 Commandments was given as not only a law, but as a mirror that reflects to us how God sees man. There is no way anyone can or will ever fulfill the whole of the law. There was only one, the man-Christ Jesus. The punishment was shown as how serious a breaking of these commandments was, also many of the rules that Yahweh gave to the Jews were so that civilization could evolve into what it was today. I don't think you can deny the fact that 'religion' (in general) and Christianity (specifically, including the Pentateuch and 'old' law) helped bring along and establish civilization as we know it today.

In regards to your atheism, even to those who aren't 'believers' it is obvious you are fighting hard and trying to prove to NT and the world you don't believe in God, and we get it. The Bible puts it in man's heart that there is a God, and I find it no surprise you have to fight so hard, and shout so loud, trying to disprove the reality. Someone once jokingly said "God doesn't believe in atheists." Just remember when it is all said and done, we all die, and the words of God you try so hard to mock, and make fun of, will also be the law that will judge you.

If the punishment that God gave to men to execute on these 10 commandments is harsh, imagine the punishment and wrath the Creator of these commandments will deliver. The writer of Hebrews said "And as it is appointed unto men once to die but after this the judgment."

If you feel any fear or conviction towards this, your only hope is Jesus Christ. No fulfilling of the law (being a good person) or going to church ("Churchianity") will ever save you or can ever save you. Paul wrote to the Ephesians, "By grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God. Not of works lest any man should boast." "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved."

And to everyone else "Repent or you will likewise perish."
 
Jesus said you could and would be better than him... I think Jesus shouldn't have "given" us this out. I think the entire ideology around him is tilted wrong.
 
Originally Posted by Diego


Perfect example of what religion does and has been doing for centuries.
During those times, it is not like civilizations were as progressive in terms of all the things we have in society today. So, if a man came along and preached to the masses while he was high on drugs, or he was epileptic, and getting all these visualizations claiming he has seen Gods or God and God talks to him, especially during times of strife and political type of change, people were going to suck it up and be gullible enough to believe it because they wanted guidance. Not only that, most religions evolved. Not all these religions today were originally same as they were preached back then. Religions transform to conform and to adapt to the change in society and civilizations. As humans, we are biologically wired to believe in faith to answer our questions all that is about this life. Humans have believed in faiths since the beginning of mankind. There are so many different kinds of religions and faiths, and I am supposed to believe there is ONE true religion? How do we know if even most of today's religions in thousands of years will even still have survived?

If you look at Jesus, he came during a time of great oppression during the stranghold of the Roman empires. He was probably more like a political revolutionary if anything. There were many of these kinds of men preaching and a couple of them were successful in gaining huge followings, most did not. Those who compiled their teachings made it more formal in creating stricter organized religions. Those who also wrote the texts added in their own teachings and interpretations. I believe a lot of them were most likely high on crazy stuff, or had some sort of disorders and mental illnesses. It was different times back then.

However, most of these type of men/women that come along these days and claim they are messengers of God are sent to the looney bin. Go figure.
 
Originally Posted by rtz13

@lobotomybeats

The 10 Commandments was given as not only a law, but as a mirror that reflects to us how God sees man. There is no way anyone can or will ever fulfill the whole of the law. There was only one, the man-Christ Jesus. The punishment was shown as how serious a breaking of these commandments was, also many of the rules that Yahweh gave to the Jews were so that civilization could evolve into what it was today. I don't think you can deny the fact that 'religion' (in general) and Christianity (specifically, including the Pentateuch and 'old' law) helped bring along and establish civilization as we know it today.

In regards to your atheism, even to those who aren't 'believers' it is obvious you are fighting hard and trying to prove to NT and the world you don't believe in God, and we get it. The Bible puts it in man's heart that there is a God, and I find it no surprise you have to fight so hard, and shout so loud, trying to disprove the reality. Someone once jokingly said "God doesn't believe in atheists." Just remember when it is all said and done, we all die, and the words of God you try so hard to mock, and make fun of, will also be the law that will judge you.

If the punishment that God gave to men to execute on these 10 commandments is harsh, imagine the punishment and wrath the Creator of these commandments will deliver. The writer of Hebrews said "And as it is appointed unto men once to die but after this the judgment."

If you feel any fear or conviction towards this, your only hope is Jesus Christ. No fulfilling of the law (being a good person) or going to church ("Churchianity") will ever save you or can ever save you. Paul wrote to the Ephesians, "By grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God. Not of works lest any man should boast." "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved."

And to everyone else "Repent or you will likewise perish."


QFT

you said it better than I could have ever put into words.

why reject God? is it because of the rules? God is giving you everything that is GOOD for you. He is the ultimate positive. A relationship without God through Jesus Christ is nothing but detrimerntal. A relationhip with God through Jesus Christ is nothing but beneficial.
 
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