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Pimp A Butterfly is important in this time cuz of what we have seen in the news the last 3-4 years but I won't say it's the most important ever. I didn't even know how you determine that.
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What time is more important than now?Sorry I couldn't let this one pass (and I like what you have had to say in the New York thread). How on earth is it the most important hip-hop album ever? There have been many records with the same subject matter before, in fact it was even fashionable in the late '80s and early '90s. And again we have had jazz influences on rap before, something like The Low End Theory being a prime example. To Pimp A Butterfly hasn't even had short-lasting influence otherwise we would be seeing a wave of clones already.
Doesn't mean it's MORE important.TPAB isn't even better than GKMC though...
It's honestly listening preference. As a cohesive unit I think TPAB is better. The beats on GKMC thoughTPAB isn't even better than GKMC though...
It's honestly listening preference. As a cohesive unit I think TPAB is better. The beats on GKMC though and I mess with TPAB heavy.TPAB isn't even better than GKMC though...
at K. Dot having 0 classics though. Section 80 is honorable mention as well.
My Krazy Life is a personal classic. He's a terrible rapper but I don't skip a song on that album. It flows perfectly, album is like watching a movie. I was stunned how good that album was.
My Krazy Life is a CLASSIC period.
You don't have to be a good rapper to make a CLASSIC.
The majority of extremely talented MCs underachieved as far as making GREAT albums.
Love Future, but c'mon son.You a real one.
Just gotta convert y'all to the Future Hive. Ds2 ain't a classic, but it's AOTY low key.
is there a joke i'm missing here?TPAB > I Have A Dream Speech.
is there a joke i'm missing here?TPAB > I Have A Dream Speech.
You would think they were going to build a monument/statue of Kendrick Lamar the way folks talk about this guy. Acting like TPAB is better than MLK's I Have A Dream speech or equivalent.
TPAB is probably the MOST important hip-hop album ever. It's def in the conversation.
This dude kanye basically got 4 classics cuz everyone saying different albums
In terms of K. Dot and Wayne neither of them have albums that changed the landscape of hip hop IMO. I mean Wayne maybe with Carter 3 but those sales were fueled by numerous mixtapes and the myth that the album may never see the light of day. Personally I play Carter 1 in my car to this day (no religion but the cops swear that I'm a drug lord!) and I'm not ready to call that nor Carter 2, 500 degrees, rebirth or anything from Wayne a classic. Kendrick is just the flavor of the month.
Honest question here. Does the fact Kendrick gets such universal acclaim from "mainstream" (read into that word what you like) audiences and critics not take something away from his work to you? Often these people are totally dismissive of hip-hop yet they love him (or at least pretend to). Would this not indicate that his music is actually quite safe and unthreatening in a way that the best of his genre has never been?Doesn't mean it's MORE important.
"Straight Outta Compton" to me isn't better than ******4Life but one is MORE important than the other.
Reasonable Doubt is better than Blueprint, but BP was more important to hip-hop. The majority of RD notoriety came after the fact. As someone pointed out the 3rd verse on "Hard Knock Life" where he speaks on it himself.
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TPAB > I Have A Dream Speech.
Kendrick had a DREEEEAAAAAMMMMMM.
I Have A Dream Speech is held in such a high regard, because it's when white people or what would now be popular culture embraced his idea, as with Kendrick that isn't MLK's best work. Maybe his most important, but his best would be Riverside Church or his final one before his death.
so the only 3 three classics in my life would be kush and orange juice , cabin fever , and fabo's there is no competition one..........only skippable tracks on one of each of wiz's tapes - the demi lovato one in the beginning of kush and oj ( i dont like the song but its still nostalgic and "part" of the cohesiveness of the tape now for me) and wtf is "middle of you" on cabin fever ......fabos tinc 1 though , perfection , punch after punch
only classic album , not one skippable song is kiss land to me if i follow your terms lol
Kanye is also critically acclaimed.Honest question here. Does the fact Kendrick gets such universal acclaim from "mainstream" (read into that word what you like) audiences and critics not take something away from his work to you? Often these people are totally dismissive of hip-hop yet they love him (or at least pretend to). Would this not indicate that his music is actually quite safe and unthreatening in a way that the best of his genre has never been?