NBA Draft Thread 2011

If Irving falls to 2, you think the Wolves would consider taking him. how bout now after they signed Rubio?
 
Originally Posted by DaComeUP

nbadraft.net has 0 credibility.
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Ever since they compared DeShawn Stevenson to Michael Jordan I have never returned to the site.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/deshawn-stevenson
 
Comparisons are always tough/dumb

I think draftexpress once called someone "Ronny Turiaf with more heart"

which made me chuckle.
 
Comparisons are always tough/dumb

I think draftexpress once called someone "Ronny Turiaf with more heart"

which made me chuckle.
 
Jazz mull using high Draft pick on a Kirilenko clone

Just when it seemed the Draft could not get more interesting for the Jazz -- the No. 3 pick and, with the No. 12, a chance to add local shooting hero Jimmer Fredette -- now comes the chance to replace Andrei Kirilenko with ...

Andrei Kirilenko.

In a strange meeting of future position need and possible past relationship, Utah will likely have the chance to select Jan Vesely, a player compared to Kirilenko, with the intention of having him replace Kirilenko.

This is too good on intrigue alone, even with the Jazz barely into the serious decision-making process. They could take center Enes Kanter or point guard Brandon Knight with the third selection -- both are realistic calls for the franchise trying to reclaim its status as playoff regular -- but No. 3 is Vesely range too. Some teams believe he will turn out to be the best of the five players from Europe (or who played on the continent this season) to make the top 10 on June 23.

"He has a lot of the qualities of Kirilenko with a more durable body," one executive said.

The comparisons are many. They are from the same region; Vesely a native of the Czech Republic and Kirilenko of Russia. They have a similar body type, Kirilenko at 6-feet-9 and 210 pounds at age 30 and Vesely at 6-foot-11 and 230 at age 21. Kirilenko was not considered a good shooter coming into the league, and neither is Vesely. But both have impressive athleticism and an energy level that helps compensate for a lack of muscle.

"He has some dunks that are so hard, it shocks you," the executive said of Vesely.

Reported one personnel boss: "I am a big Vesely fan. Limited offensive skill set, but he is an elite athlete, has excellent size for his position, a high motor and is ready to play in an NBA game."

This would all be nothing more than an easy comparable except that it's not hard to find front offices who think Vesely is, at the very least, in the conversation for the third-best prospect on the board, after Duke point guard Kyrie Irving and Arizona forward Derrick Williams.

And the Jazz pick third. Days before Kirilenko becomes a free agent.

This is too good.

Other news, notes and observations at the start of Draft month:

• The Cavaliers, already the team of the Draft while picking first and fourth, are sending signals that they may add a pick somewhere from late-lottery to the late-teens or early-20s, either by trading down from No. 4 as part of a larger deal or buying a pick.

They already had Florida State forward Chris Singleton in and, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, will host Providence shooting guard Marshon Brooks on June 10. Neither is projected to go anywhere near four. That should sound some alarms.

Teams may like to get an up-close look at as many players as possible, but most agents will have clients work out for clubs only if there is a realistic chance of a certan club taking them. Too many auditions, sometimes several days in a row and with travel thrown in, wears a prospect down and could lead to a stock-drop.

"It's all a mystery," Singleton, a top defender who could go late in the lottery, said when asked whether the Cavaliers gave a reason for bringing him in. "They don't tell you anything."

• One GM still prefers Lithuanian center Jonas Valanciunas over Vesely, Kanter and the entire formidable wave of international prospects that could be one of the major storylines of Draft night: "He might be the best of all of them."

• It's not like USC big man Nikola Vucevic came from nowhere to climb into solid contention for the first round after the Chicago pre-Draft camp. While he helped his case by measuring 6-foot-10 ¼ without shoes and 6-foot-11 ¾ with shoes -- the school, in an unusual turn compared to most who stretch the truth, undersold Vucevic at 6-foot-10 -- it's the same guy who had good showings against Texas (24 points, nine rebounds) and at Kansas (13 points, eight rebounds, two blocks). Teams have seen tape. They're just watching a lot closer in a Draft so lacking in centers.


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My favorite NBADraft.net comparison would have to be Dwight Howard and Kwame Brown.
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Jazz mull using high Draft pick on a Kirilenko clone

Just when it seemed the Draft could not get more interesting for the Jazz -- the No. 3 pick and, with the No. 12, a chance to add local shooting hero Jimmer Fredette -- now comes the chance to replace Andrei Kirilenko with ...

Andrei Kirilenko.

In a strange meeting of future position need and possible past relationship, Utah will likely have the chance to select Jan Vesely, a player compared to Kirilenko, with the intention of having him replace Kirilenko.

This is too good on intrigue alone, even with the Jazz barely into the serious decision-making process. They could take center Enes Kanter or point guard Brandon Knight with the third selection -- both are realistic calls for the franchise trying to reclaim its status as playoff regular -- but No. 3 is Vesely range too. Some teams believe he will turn out to be the best of the five players from Europe (or who played on the continent this season) to make the top 10 on June 23.

"He has a lot of the qualities of Kirilenko with a more durable body," one executive said.

The comparisons are many. They are from the same region; Vesely a native of the Czech Republic and Kirilenko of Russia. They have a similar body type, Kirilenko at 6-feet-9 and 210 pounds at age 30 and Vesely at 6-foot-11 and 230 at age 21. Kirilenko was not considered a good shooter coming into the league, and neither is Vesely. But both have impressive athleticism and an energy level that helps compensate for a lack of muscle.

"He has some dunks that are so hard, it shocks you," the executive said of Vesely.

Reported one personnel boss: "I am a big Vesely fan. Limited offensive skill set, but he is an elite athlete, has excellent size for his position, a high motor and is ready to play in an NBA game."

This would all be nothing more than an easy comparable except that it's not hard to find front offices who think Vesely is, at the very least, in the conversation for the third-best prospect on the board, after Duke point guard Kyrie Irving and Arizona forward Derrick Williams.

And the Jazz pick third. Days before Kirilenko becomes a free agent.

This is too good.

Other news, notes and observations at the start of Draft month:

• The Cavaliers, already the team of the Draft while picking first and fourth, are sending signals that they may add a pick somewhere from late-lottery to the late-teens or early-20s, either by trading down from No. 4 as part of a larger deal or buying a pick.

They already had Florida State forward Chris Singleton in and, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, will host Providence shooting guard Marshon Brooks on June 10. Neither is projected to go anywhere near four. That should sound some alarms.

Teams may like to get an up-close look at as many players as possible, but most agents will have clients work out for clubs only if there is a realistic chance of a certan club taking them. Too many auditions, sometimes several days in a row and with travel thrown in, wears a prospect down and could lead to a stock-drop.

"It's all a mystery," Singleton, a top defender who could go late in the lottery, said when asked whether the Cavaliers gave a reason for bringing him in. "They don't tell you anything."

• One GM still prefers Lithuanian center Jonas Valanciunas over Vesely, Kanter and the entire formidable wave of international prospects that could be one of the major storylines of Draft night: "He might be the best of all of them."

• It's not like USC big man Nikola Vucevic came from nowhere to climb into solid contention for the first round after the Chicago pre-Draft camp. While he helped his case by measuring 6-foot-10 ¼ without shoes and 6-foot-11 ¾ with shoes -- the school, in an unusual turn compared to most who stretch the truth, undersold Vucevic at 6-foot-10 -- it's the same guy who had good showings against Texas (24 points, nine rebounds) and at Kansas (13 points, eight rebounds, two blocks). Teams have seen tape. They're just watching a lot closer in a Draft so lacking in centers.


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My favorite NBADraft.net comparison would have to be Dwight Howard and Kwame Brown.
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Originally Posted by Im Not You

Originally Posted by Scott Frost

Originally Posted by DaComeUP

nbadraft.net has 0 credibility.
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Ever since they compared DeShawn Stevenson to Michael Jordan I have never returned to the site.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/deshawn-stevenson
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Don't forget Amare Stoudemire to Ben Wallace 
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LOL what? its funny cause its not like comparing a scrub to a HOFer like Deshawn/MJ cause Stat and Ben are both great players in their own right... but they could actually not play MORE different
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I think draftexpress once called someone "Ronny Turiaf with more heart"
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and goddamn Kemba is so $*+!$!@ good. that gw he hit vs Pitt in the Big East tourny gets me every $*+!$!@ time when he makes McGee fall. I remember watching that !%%@ live and saying that was the greatest play ive seen in my life
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Originally Posted by Im Not You

Originally Posted by Scott Frost

Originally Posted by DaComeUP

nbadraft.net has 0 credibility.
laugh.gif
Click to expand...
Ever since they compared DeShawn Stevenson to Michael Jordan I have never returned to the site.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/deshawn-stevenson
Click to expand...
Don't forget Amare Stoudemire to Ben Wallace 
laugh.gif
Click to expand...
LOL what? its funny cause its not like comparing a scrub to a HOFer like Deshawn/MJ cause Stat and Ben are both great players in their own right... but they could actually not play MORE different
laugh.gif


I think draftexpress once called someone "Ronny Turiaf with more heart"
roll.gif
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and goddamn Kemba is so $*+!$!@ good. that gw he hit vs Pitt in the Big East tourny gets me every $*+!$!@ time when he makes McGee fall. I remember watching that !%%@ live and saying that was the greatest play ive seen in my life
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Austin Freeman went and lost 20 lbs. Should help him get picked up late in the 2nd round, no? Especially for teams that could use a shooter off the bench
 
Austin Freeman went and lost 20 lbs. Should help him get picked up late in the 2nd round, no? Especially for teams that could use a shooter off the bench
 
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Austin Freeman went and lost 20 lbs. Should help him get picked up late in the 2nd round, no? Especially for teams that could use a shooter off the bench
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Originally Posted by The Wizard

Austin Freeman went and lost 20 lbs. Should help him get picked up late in the 2nd round, no? Especially for teams that could use a shooter off the bench
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Originally Posted by PharelFor3

If Irving falls to 2, you think the Wolves would consider taking him. how bout now after they signed Rubio?
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I sure hope not. 
Rubio coming over sure helps, but even with trades that the wolves will obviously make, I just am not sure who you leave out of the starting lineup, if they draft a SG, either wes or Beasley gotta come off the bench if they draft a Center, Darko gets pushed back, if they draft a PF, I might just kill someone. 
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-unc fan. 
 
Originally Posted by PharelFor3

If Irving falls to 2, you think the Wolves would consider taking him. how bout now after they signed Rubio?
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I sure hope not. 
Rubio coming over sure helps, but even with trades that the wolves will obviously make, I just am not sure who you leave out of the starting lineup, if they draft a SG, either wes or Beasley gotta come off the bench if they draft a Center, Darko gets pushed back, if they draft a PF, I might just kill someone. 
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-unc fan. 
 
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