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Nike Air Max Plus Thread
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oh ok...those are a must cop for me,so dope.
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I wondered what Sean Mcdowel knows about the drop in the quality of his Model and what Nike did with the shape and now we have fakes Sneakers made in Indo and China factory , what a shame for the Air Max Plus !!!...The Nike.com pics always show the best shape from a set, i know that a lot of pairs will have bad shapes.
The materials of recent cws looks cheap, i bought several Indo and always inspect all the latest releases at Foot Locker. Some are better than others but we are really far from what was produced in the 1998-2005 era.
If i had to do an AM+ Tier list i'd say:
S: 1998-2002
A: 2003-2005
C+: 2006-2007 (Midsole Change tiny bubbles, less padding)
D-: 2008-2015 (padding reduced to minimum, shoe really became uncomfortable to me)
F: 2016-2018 (Indo production (IR factories), closer to fakes, lots of defects, atrocious shape, drastic cost cutting)
E-: 2017-2018 (Chinese produced AM+ (SQ Factories) some of them are indistinguishable from fakes shape wise)
Everytime i think this can't get worse and everytime they prove me wrong. Well that's my opinion but i can assure you that if you wear an old cw from 1998-2006 you'd be surprised by the differences, even the insole is different and became all cheap and flat.
The pics you refereed to are not that bad but i'm immediately triggrered by the front, especially the toecap placement.
Look, some pics that will show some of the differences between them.
Big bubbles, puffy tongue:
Ideal Toecap placement, thinner veins:
Ideal Toecap placement, good padding, puffy tongue, big bubbles:
When you get accustomed to it there is no turning back, you see all the cheap made parts / materials / shape and eventually you stop buying them and hope one day they will change the midsole molds back to something better...
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copped these at FTL yesterday since I struck out on the 97's...Was able to use a disco on these.honestly thought they were sitting as i was checking all the sites yesterday. today i checked and every foot site is sold out in my size, so i decided to scoop off SNKRS. better safe than sorry.
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anyone have release info on those white/purple-blue faded ones?
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^Pics debuted alongside the womens crimson/volt fades that just dropped. Considering they were pictured on the same table and those the first OG style bottom to top fades with fade tongue in a long time, I'm guessing they'll be a womens release as well.
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yea I think they are a womens release.. wonder when they drop
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The Nike.com pics always show the best shape from a set, i know that a lot of pairs will have bad shapes.
The materials of recent cws looks cheap, i bought several Indo and always inspect all the latest releases at Foot Locker. Some are better than others but we are really far from what was produced in the 1998-2005 era.
If i had to do an AM+ Tier list i'd say:
S: 1998-2002
A: 2003-2005
C+: 2006-2007 (Midsole Change tiny bubbles, less padding)
D-: 2008-2015 (padding reduced to minimum, shoe really became uncomfortable to me)
F: 2016-2018 (Indo production (IR factories), closer to fakes, lots of defects, atrocious shape, drastic cost cutting)
E-: 2017-2018 (Chinese produced AM+ (SQ Factories) some of them are indistinguishable from fakes shape wise)
Everytime i think this can't get worse and everytime they prove me wrong. Well that's my opinion but i can assure you that if you wear an old cw from 1998-2006 you'd be surprised by the differences, even the insole is different and became all cheap and flat.
The pics you refereed to are not that bad but i'm immediately triggrered by the front, especially the toecap placement.
Look, some pics that will show some of the differences between them.
Big bubbles, puffy tongue:
Ideal Toecap placement, thinner veins:
Ideal Toecap placement, good padding, puffy tongue, big bubbles:
When you get accustomed to it there is no turning back, you see all the cheap made parts / materials / shape and eventually you stop buying them and hope one day they will change the midsole molds back to something better...
@ those thick veins....... PAUSE
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Restock on FTL Europe now i just grabbed a pair.
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Is there any chance of those red/yellow fades dropping in mens?
Did the silver bullets drop in womens first, then mens later or both hit at the same time?
I'm legitimately salty about this right now.
They've been released for men on FL europe (France) 7 up to 12
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Edit... just checked their site. I need those to drop stateside.
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What’s the women’s tigers everyone talking about can’t see anything on FTL EU
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They reduced the Air bags because the gas they used back then (SF6) was bad for the environment, it took 14 years of research (1992-2005) to find a new way of creating the bubbles with another gas. They had to redesign all of the Air bags of their shoes to be able to use the new gas (Nitrogen).
The Nitrogen must be contained in a very tight air chamber constituted of 65 thin layers of plastic, most of the visible Air bags (if not all) were reduced because the new Air bags weren't symmetrical top-to-bottom, they had to be smaller to accommodate this.
They changed the Air Max 93 Air bags and all the shoes that used the same Air Bag like the Air Max 94, Air Burst, Air Max 95 GS... also the Air Max 95 bubbles were reduced, Air Max Tailwind IV, Air 180 etc...
Sources:
jfeezy (Nike Talk member closely involved)
Bloomberg article from 2006: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2006-09-24/nike-goes-for-the-green
Here, some differences between the old and new bubbles:
Air Max 95 GS "Neon" - 1995
Air Max 95 GS "Neon" - New bubbles
Air Max 95 "Neon" - 1995
Air Max 95 "Neon" - New bubbles
Air Max 95 "Grape" - 1995
Air Max 95 "Grape" - New bubbles
Air Max Tailwind IV - OG Bubbles
Air Max Tailwind IV - New Bubbles
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Those tailwind bubbles. 
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That was the most in-depth info i think I've ever read about shoes Mr. Anderson. Kudos.
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They reduced the Air bags because the gas they used back then (SF6) was bad for the environment, it took 14 years of research (1992-2005) to find a new way of creating the bubbles with another gas. They had to redesign all of the Air bags of their shoes to be able to use the new gas (Nitrogen).
The Nitrogen must be contained in a very tight air chamber constituted of 65 thin layers of plastic, most of the visible Air bags (if not all) were reduced because the new Air bags weren't symmetrical top-to-bottom, they had to be smaller to accommodate this.
They changed the Air Max 93 Air bags and all the shoes that used the same Air Bag like the Air Max 94, Air Burst, Air Max 95 GS... also the Air Max 95 bubbles were reduced, Air Max Tailwind IV, Air 180 etc...
Sources:
jfeezy (Nike Talk member closely involved)
Bloomberg article from 2006: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2006-09-24/nike-goes-for-the-green
Here, some differences between the old and new bubbles:
Air Max 95 GS "Neon" - 1995
Air Max 95 GS "Neon" - New bubbles
Air Max 95 "Neon" - 1995
Air Max 95 "Neon" - New bubbles
Air Max 95 "Grape" - 1995
Air Max 95 "Grape" - New bubbles
Air Max Tailwind IV - OG Bubbles
Air Max Tailwind IV - New Bubbles
And then we get this.... the tallest air bag Nike has ever produced. I don’t get it.
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Thanks for the interesting read. That’s a crazy difference in those pics, and it’s a shame. Those big og bubbles looking nice
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The reduced bags ruined the 95's.
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The 360 and 270 air bags proved that redesigning the classic shoes was a mistake. Nike will never go back and redesign them correctly.
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Oh yeah I saw those but only in men’s on ftl eu didn’t realise they were being called tigers now lol
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They released for women in the USA. But men in europe...wttf its a joke
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Any of my Australian friends will be happy to know this is a Footlocker wide release in both colourways, and you’ll be able to use membership discount on the same day!
