Nike Air Max Plus Thread

Do yall think the golds will still be around for a little second or are ppl going to consolation prize these too?

honestly thought they were sitting as i was checking all the sites yesterday. today i checked and every foot site is sold out in my size, so i decided to scoop off SNKRS. better safe than sorry.
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Does anyone mind pointing out the flaws in the shape of this model to me? Because to me, it looks pretty spot on for an Indonesian manufactured release. Very very slight banana shape but apart from that? Not trying to be passive aggressive just genuinely curious. Sometimes I can understand what all the fuss is about, but other times it is harder to see.
 
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^ Damn... They just had to make those a hybrid, didn't they?

Colorway would be flames with an OG AMP midsole. Looks like something that would have been a Champs Exclusive circa 2002.

Nope Footlocker exclusive circa 08ish
I still have my pair downstairs...but the white mesh got ruined when I was caught in a bad storm with them & found my way into a deep mud hole...might post pics later...I’ve given up on them though honestly
 
Does anyone mind pointing out the flaws in the shape of this model to me? Because to me, it looks pretty spot on for an Indonesian manufactured release. Very very slight banana shape but apart from that? Not trying to be passive aggressive just genuinely curious. Sometimes I can understand what all the fuss is about, but other times it is harder to see.
There's nothing wrong with the shape, in my opinion. I have yet to pass up on a pair of air max plus because of the shape like I have with air max 1's.
 
Hmm both those mx air drop on the same day (01/06) think I’m more leaning towards the white pair
 
Does anyone mind pointing out the flaws in the shape of this model to me? Because to me, it looks pretty spot on for an Indonesian manufactured release. Very very slight banana shape but apart from that? Not trying to be passive aggressive just genuinely curious. Sometimes I can understand what all the fuss is about, but other times it is harder to see.

The Nike.com pics always show the best shape from a set, i know that a lot of pairs will have bad shapes.

The materials of recent cws looks cheap, i bought several Indo and always inspect all the latest releases at Foot Locker. Some are better than others but we are really far from what was produced in the 1998-2005 era.

If i had to do an AM+ Tier list i'd say:
S: 1998-2002
A: 2003-2005
C+: 2006-2007 (Midsole Change tiny bubbles, less padding)
D-: 2008-2015 (padding reduced to minimum, shoe really became uncomfortable to me)
F: 2016-2018 (Indo production (IR factories), closer to fakes, lots of defects, atrocious shape, drastic cost cutting)

E-: 2017-2018 (Chinese produced AM+ (SQ Factories) some of them are indistinguishable from fakes shape wise)

Everytime i think this can't get worse and everytime they prove me wrong. Well that's my opinion but i can assure you that if you wear an old cw from 1998-2006 you'd be surprised by the differences, even the insole is different and became all cheap and flat.

The pics you refereed to are not that bad but i'm immediately triggrered by the front, especially the toecap placement.

Look, some pics that will show some of the differences between them.


Big bubbles, puffy tongue:
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Ideal Toecap placement, thinner veins:
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Ideal Toecap placement, good padding, puffy tongue, big bubbles:
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When you get accustomed to it there is no turning back, you see all the cheap made parts / materials / shape and eventually you stop buying them and hope one day they will change the midsole molds back to something better...
 
The Nike.com pics always show the best shape from a set, i know that a lot of pairs will have bad shapes.

The materials of recent cws looks cheap, i bought several Indo and always inspect all the latest releases at Foot Locker. Some are better than others but we are really far from what was produced in the 1998-2005 era.

If i had to do an AM+ Tier list i'd say:
S: 1998-2002
A: 2003-2005
C+: 2006-2007 (Midsole Change tiny bubbles, less padding)
D-: 2008-2015 (padding reduced to minimum, shoe really became uncomfortable to me)
F: 2016-2018 (Indo production (IR factories), closer to fakes, lots of defects, atrocious shape, drastic cost cutting)

E-: 2017-2018 (Chinese produced AM+ (SQ Factories) some of them are indistinguishable from fakes shape wise)

Everytime i think this can't get worse and everytime they prove me wrong. Well that's my opinion but i can assure you that if you wear an old cw from 1998-2006 you'd be surprised by the differences, even the insole is different and became all cheap and flat.

The pics you refereed to are not that bad but i'm immediately triggrered by the front, especially the toecap placement.

Look, some pics that will show some of the differences between them.


Big bubbles, puffy tongue:
1999 - 605112-001 - 025.JPG
1999 - 605112-001 - 016.JPG



Ideal Toecap placement, thinner veins:
1999 - 605112-132 - 011.JPG



Ideal Toecap placement, good padding, puffy tongue, big bubbles:
1999 - 605112-101 - 008.JPG

1999 - 605112-031 - 055.JPG



When you get accustomed to it there is no turning back, you see all the cheap made parts / materials / shape and eventually you stop buying them and hope one day they will change the midsole molds back to something better...
Billy you are the Best !
Thanks for your infos about the evolution of the Air Max plus since the last 20 years, once again I’m totally agree with you !!
 
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The Nike.com pics always show the best shape from a set, i know that a lot of pairs will have bad shapes.

The materials of recent cws looks cheap, i bought several Indo and always inspect all the latest releases at Foot Locker. Some are better than others but we are really far from what was produced in the 1998-2005 era.

If i had to do an AM+ Tier list i'd say:
S: 1998-2002
A: 2003-2005
C+: 2006-2007 (Midsole Change tiny bubbles, less padding)
D-: 2008-2015 (padding reduced to minimum, shoe really became uncomfortable to me)
F: 2016-2018 (Indo production (IR factories), closer to fakes, lots of defects, atrocious shape, drastic cost cutting)

E-: 2017-2018 (Chinese produced AM+ (SQ Factories) some of them are indistinguishable from fakes shape wise)

Everytime i think this can't get worse and everytime they prove me wrong. Well that's my opinion but i can assure you that if you wear an old cw from 1998-2006 you'd be surprised by the differences, even the insole is different and became all cheap and flat.

The pics you refereed to are not that bad but i'm immediately triggrered by the front, especially the toecap placement.

Look, some pics that will show some of the differences between them.


Big bubbles, puffy tongue:
1999 - 605112-001 - 025.JPG
1999 - 605112-001 - 016.JPG



Ideal Toecap placement, thinner veins:
1999 - 605112-132 - 011.JPG



Ideal Toecap placement, good padding, puffy tongue, big bubbles:
1999 - 605112-101 - 008.JPG

1999 - 605112-031 - 055.JPG



When you get accustomed to it there is no turning back, you see all the cheap made parts / materials / shape and eventually you stop buying them and hope one day they will change the midsole molds back to something better...

Cheers for the rundown brother! A lot of people give vague explanations to the disdain for "Indo's" but this really clears things up for me. I think the main thing that confused me was everyone's love affair for the Vietnamese manufactured pairs, which when I compare shape wise to their Indonesian counterparts, don't look to dissimilar. The main thing that stuck out for me were the toe caps. The differences are glaringly obvious though when compared to the older releases you mentioned. Do you have any Idea why the great minds at Nike© decided to thin out the shoe and modify the rear bubble?
 
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