Nowitzki or Wallace?

Sheed on the Blazers and Pistons though 
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toss up IMO. Can't go wrong with either. 
 
Sheed was something special. Like it's been said he was a hof talent and could've been a legend, but the mindset was never there.
 
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you made this before I did, but I sort of thought it would be a Dirk consensus. Seems like both have/had something the other lacks, with Wallace
lacking drive/effort and Dirk lacking toughness. I'm more interested in the Dirk/Barkley comparison, which I would go with Barkley.
 
Originally Posted by Peep Game


 Dirk lacking toughness.
we need to put this silly argument to rest. he does everything the rest of the so called tough guys do, but still isn't considered tough.
 
I don't think there's even been a player that had Sheeds skill set.
 
Originally Posted by CP1708

Til I die, IF Sheed ever had the hunger/drive that was required, he would be the best PF to ever live. 

Ever. 

And it wouldn't be close. 

But Sheed was in fact, Sheed.  He cared little about being anything more than he was.  Talent wise, he had no ceiling.  He was as fundamental as Tim, range even moreso than Dirk, defensive ability like KG, could pass as well as Webber, he just simply did not put in the same work/effort that they all did.  Add it all up, and he could have been a top 10 all time NBA player.  And I am dead serious.  And he's a former Blazer, so don't take me saying this lightly, I rarely speak well of Blazers. 
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That's like saying if Odom had the hunger/drive he would have been better than Magic

Originally Posted by CashBanks

obviously after the fact many would take Dirk but if we talkin draft style and their both 21 everyone in here would take Sheed you are lying if you say otherwise

btw I'd take Sheed with his flaws

In that case many would take Hasheem Thabeet at 21 over Dirk... Stupid argument.

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obviously after the fact many would take Dirk but if we talkin draft style and their both 21 everyone in here would take Sheed you are lying if you say otherwise

btw I'd take Sheed with his flaws
 
Originally Posted by calibeebee

Originally Posted by CP1708

Til I die, IF Sheed ever had the hunger/drive that was required, he would be the best PF to ever live. 

Ever. 

And it wouldn't be close. 

But Sheed was in fact, Sheed.  He cared little about being anything more than he was.  Talent wise, he had no ceiling.  He was as fundamental as Tim, range even moreso than Dirk, defensive ability like KG, could pass as well as Webber, he just simply did not put in the same work/effort that they all did.  Add it all up, and he could have been a top 10 all time NBA player.  And I am dead serious.  And he's a former Blazer, so don't take me saying this lightly, I rarely speak well of Blazers. 
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while we are on this subject, what are your guys' view on Tim Thomas???

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Hurts me to say it but after that playoff run Dirk has become the most overrated player in the past 10-20 years. Do you guys remember how yall used to DOG him along with the media ? Son was the bud of everyones jokes because of his multiple playoff failures. Oh and yea ill take Sheed's overall game over Dirk's insane shooting
 
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