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I just need to vent right now, and the advice of some NTers would be nice. It's kind of a long story for everything to make sense...but I'll try to be as short as possible.
So this year I became pretty close with one of my old friends from HS. We were never super tight, but we always had a connection in the way that we have always had the EXACT same taste in music. I would say I was at him and his girls apartment at least 5/7 days a week during the summer. We went to Milwaukee together to see Kanye at Summerfest, as well as many other shows together. During the course of the year we became pretty close. A few months back, after a night of
, we kinda constructed this idea that we wanted to design and sell shirts. We had everything planned out, a brand name, a brand statement, a story behind it, and a few designs to start with. Now don't get me wrong, I never thought this was a guaranteed success, but I wanted to give it an attempt.
Dude kept telling me we would work on it, and it never would happen. Instead he was either with his side girl, or making music with his co-producer. Now I understand he has other things to do, but the fact he would consistently tell me we would do something, and then would flake every time we had a plan, I got a little annoyed. I finally called him out and we kind of had a small falling out. He claimed I was "mixing business with friendship." And I kept saying, well you should have enough respect for me as a friend to not ditch plans as a business partner. Eventually after leading me to believe we were gonna work on this for weeks, he told me he was more interested in music, but if I wanted to do it on my own I was more than welcome to.
A few days later (about a week and 2 days before thanksgiving) we make plans, and again dude completely ditches me. So I'm like, ok so before it was cool to ditch me for whatever reason because it was "business." But when we are supposed to just chill as friends, you still do it? I blew up on him a little bit. And of course he thought he did nothing wrong. So a few days later I run into K, his co-producer, and he goes "I gotta talk to you about visuals for the shirt." and I'm like well I was told you guys weren't interested in doing it anymore, and he goes "No, he's on his way over right now to work on it." So I just blow up on my friend, I felt so betrayed over the whole thing, he told me he didn't want to do it, gave me his blessing to do it, and then I find out through a mutual friend they are still gonna work on it?
I had bought tickets to two WTT shows for us back in August. (One I was gonna take a girl too, but that didn't work out, so I told him he could go.) To the show he had planned to go when I was buying tickets, he hadn't fully paid me back yet. So I told him I was going to give him his money back, and take someone else, I was that pissed off. Also when I bought the tickets, he said he didn't wanna pay more than 130, but I wanted to be on the floor so I got us $200 tickets. So finally I go, "Whatever man, IDC who goes with me, as long as I get to go, now I have someone who is willing to buy your ticket, so you can either pay me the rest of the 200, or I can give you your money back." He's like, "Weren't they 130." So i hit him with the "Yeah, well that was when I thought we were really good friends, but I'm taking your advice and not mixing friendship with business, so its 200." He agrees to pay it.
Next morning I wake up to a text from him "Sorry to flip flop, but I might not be able to go, Joz (his ex girlfriend of 6 years who he was living with) is no longer with us on this Earth." I dont even know what to say to him, so all I can say is sorry. That instant, all beef was thrown out, and I did the best I could to be as good of a friend as I could for him, and support him. He wasn't taking it well. He apologized for being a crappy friend as well.
At the first show, we kind of agreed that we wanted to work on the shirts again. But didn't talk about it to much, so whatever. But between the funeral, and going to the two WTT shows, we were good again. Also awhile back, I randomly wrote a song to one of their beats, and they both thought it was really good. So he told me to write 5 songs, and we could try to record them sometime. I didn't really have any confidence in myself with it, but he did so whatever, I thought I'd give it a shot. The more I got into it, the more I wanted to try and at least record, just to see how it'd turn out. He keeps telling me, oh yeah we will get together tomorrow and do it, and never happens. So again, I get the run around, the same way I did with the shirts. At what point do you say screw it and just cut ties with someone? I'm just getting to the point where his word means nothing to me.
So this year I became pretty close with one of my old friends from HS. We were never super tight, but we always had a connection in the way that we have always had the EXACT same taste in music. I would say I was at him and his girls apartment at least 5/7 days a week during the summer. We went to Milwaukee together to see Kanye at Summerfest, as well as many other shows together. During the course of the year we became pretty close. A few months back, after a night of
Dude kept telling me we would work on it, and it never would happen. Instead he was either with his side girl, or making music with his co-producer. Now I understand he has other things to do, but the fact he would consistently tell me we would do something, and then would flake every time we had a plan, I got a little annoyed. I finally called him out and we kind of had a small falling out. He claimed I was "mixing business with friendship." And I kept saying, well you should have enough respect for me as a friend to not ditch plans as a business partner. Eventually after leading me to believe we were gonna work on this for weeks, he told me he was more interested in music, but if I wanted to do it on my own I was more than welcome to.
A few days later (about a week and 2 days before thanksgiving) we make plans, and again dude completely ditches me. So I'm like, ok so before it was cool to ditch me for whatever reason because it was "business." But when we are supposed to just chill as friends, you still do it? I blew up on him a little bit. And of course he thought he did nothing wrong. So a few days later I run into K, his co-producer, and he goes "I gotta talk to you about visuals for the shirt." and I'm like well I was told you guys weren't interested in doing it anymore, and he goes "No, he's on his way over right now to work on it." So I just blow up on my friend, I felt so betrayed over the whole thing, he told me he didn't want to do it, gave me his blessing to do it, and then I find out through a mutual friend they are still gonna work on it?
I had bought tickets to two WTT shows for us back in August. (One I was gonna take a girl too, but that didn't work out, so I told him he could go.) To the show he had planned to go when I was buying tickets, he hadn't fully paid me back yet. So I told him I was going to give him his money back, and take someone else, I was that pissed off. Also when I bought the tickets, he said he didn't wanna pay more than 130, but I wanted to be on the floor so I got us $200 tickets. So finally I go, "Whatever man, IDC who goes with me, as long as I get to go, now I have someone who is willing to buy your ticket, so you can either pay me the rest of the 200, or I can give you your money back." He's like, "Weren't they 130." So i hit him with the "Yeah, well that was when I thought we were really good friends, but I'm taking your advice and not mixing friendship with business, so its 200." He agrees to pay it.
Next morning I wake up to a text from him "Sorry to flip flop, but I might not be able to go, Joz (his ex girlfriend of 6 years who he was living with) is no longer with us on this Earth." I dont even know what to say to him, so all I can say is sorry. That instant, all beef was thrown out, and I did the best I could to be as good of a friend as I could for him, and support him. He wasn't taking it well. He apologized for being a crappy friend as well.
At the first show, we kind of agreed that we wanted to work on the shirts again. But didn't talk about it to much, so whatever. But between the funeral, and going to the two WTT shows, we were good again. Also awhile back, I randomly wrote a song to one of their beats, and they both thought it was really good. So he told me to write 5 songs, and we could try to record them sometime. I didn't really have any confidence in myself with it, but he did so whatever, I thought I'd give it a shot. The more I got into it, the more I wanted to try and at least record, just to see how it'd turn out. He keeps telling me, oh yeah we will get together tomorrow and do it, and never happens. So again, I get the run around, the same way I did with the shirts. At what point do you say screw it and just cut ties with someone? I'm just getting to the point where his word means nothing to me.
