NT OPEN YOUR EYES...*insert sarcasm*

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Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

I don't know much about masonry but how is it "evil"?
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They use spooky symbols, have weird rituals, some of their members are rich and powerful and they keep secrets. Those are grounds for devil worship.
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This is clearly subjective........you can say the same about a lot of other religious organizations.
 
Originally Posted by 0cks
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I love this song, it was a reference to the post-apocalyptic world portrayed in the Jean Claude Van Damme movie "Cyborg".�Great movieBDW.

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so lemme get this straight.....
ive been reading thru this whole thread all morning:
so mos def is said to be a satanic devil worshiping free mason because,
A)refers to black in his past albums
B)masonic symbols and lyrics in his video

and also, free masonry is said to be "taking over" the music industry weather the artist know it or not...
so jay z and mos def COULD be producing these tracks KNOWING that these are satanic symbols or they were just lead that way BY the devil NOT knowing so. andthis is where that 2nd and 4th dimension comes in correct?
anything else i missed?
 
But Mos Def's government name is Dante, Dante Terrell Smith-Bey.

I don't think he's calling himself Dante JUST because its another name for the devil.

I'm just saying.

This other stuff is wild though.

My-T.
 
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I am starting to think that a lot of this info given out about the Illuminati/Freemasonry having to do with the anti-christ, and devil worshipping is coming from the extremist religious followers
It is.
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Originally Posted by Black Racer X

Originally Posted by ATLien Seeko

How about we all just pick up some books and read some real, thorough knowledge. That's what I'm about to go do.. I have two that I need to finish, then it's on to the next.
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Im with you on that, currently reading Stolen Legacy.
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Don't fall into the cult of Youtube people.

Do your own research of the world and then use Youtube as a tool to potentially expand your own theories and observations.
 
Originally Posted by HueyP in LouieV

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I am starting to think that a lot of this info given out about the Illuminati/Freemasonry having to do with the anti-christ, and devil worshipping is coming from the extremist religious followers
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It is.



Symbolism at its worst.... I got my own beliefs... and some of them are a little out there

But when people are adding religion to justify insanity(at least in my eyes) I draw my line.

Life is 99% preception. Its the reason why we cant come to a conclusion as to what Mos Def was thinking. We would be fools to say with an aboslute authoritythat he was speaking against the Illumaniti. We would be fools to say that Freemason's are demonic in nature. And its foolish to think that any GROUP ofpeople living on Earth want to destroy all life. What these threads are about is passing along a knowledge of the world that is not really taught in schools.They brush upon it, and if your lucky you had/ have a teacher who doesnt always teach by the book.

Life isnt just one way. There arent people who are totally bad, and there arent people who are totally good. No matter how you precieve yourself, you areflawed, because one persons ideal's aint yours.

So those who deprive themselves of knowledge are living their ideal, and those who engulf themselves with knowledge are trying to better understand somethingthat can only be speculated. Why? cause we didnt live it(or for those who believe in reincarnation) we cant see it the same way history sees it.

Cliff notes:

I dont know what your thinking, so I try not to speculate. This @+$* would be a lot easier if I knew from what state of mind people were posting.
 
Something that crossed my mind after reading up on MK .... doesn't the internet and msg boards lead to a disassociative state ...... another thing that hasalways bothered me about sites like NKTLK is avatars, where you have male posters with female avatars, then added to that your online name .... doesn't allof this effectively fractures one's mind ..... with so many people having an alternate self, some even calling it their "true self" ..... thenhow does one get away, unlocked, untapped or what have you may out of this web without completely shunning technology
 
Originally Posted by fac3 tak30v312

Something that crossed my mind after reading up on MK .... doesn't the internet and msg boards lead to a disassociative state ...... another thing that has always bothered me about sites like NKTLK is avatars, where you have male posters with female avatars, then added to that your online name .... doesn't all of this effectively fractures one's mind ..... with so many people having an alternate self, some even calling it their "true self" ..... then how does one get away, unlocked, untapped or what have you may out of this web without completely shunning technology
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This is interesting, because this kind of reasoning is what much of early science fiction was based off of: Developing well-informed theoriesabout how life really is and might end up someday.

I always found it as a surprise when I found out that people I met and befriended online were nothing like their online personae in real life. Be that personasomething basic or abstract, it definitely makes you wonder just who the person on the other end responding to you is offline.
 
IDK .... when you think about the creation of DID/MPD ..... and tie in the shock video sites that were prevalent a couple of years ago [for example that gif ofthat guy blowing his head up that's always used here] and pornography as a form of sexual abuse/programming on its viewers .... It makes one think twiceabout the true uses of the internet and how effectively easy it is to be used as a tool to fracture ones mind and create MPs or in the very least adisassociative state

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Then there's this thread http://niketalk.com/topic/223176?page=1 where the OP asks aboutimmortality ..... where numerous posters respond by saying their immediate urge is one associated with either innocence or pedophilia ...... IDK more I readabout MK and the symbology stuff in here you see these underlying threads everywhere ...... which then invokes if one could truly either expose/ or protectthemself from it ..... It's looking more like either you're one of the wolves or sheep but then again could one be anymore than a sheep with claws
 
Originally Posted by fac3 tak30v312

IDK .... when you think about the creation of DID/MPD ..... and tie in the shock video sites that were prevalent a couple of years ago [for example that gif of that guy blowing his head up that's always used here] and pornography as a form of sexual abuse/programming on its viewers .... It makes one think twice about the true uses of the internet and how effectively easy it is to be used as a tool to fracture ones mind and create MPs or in the very least a disassociative state

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Then there's this thread http://niketalk.com/topic/223176?page=1 where the OP asks about immortality ..... where numerous posters respond by saying their immediate urge is one associated with either innocence or pedophilia ...... IDK more I read about MK and the symbology stuff in here you see these underlying threads everywhere ...... which then invokes if one could truly either expose/ or protect themself from it ..... It's looking more like either you're one of the wolves or sheep but then again could one be anymore than a sheep with claws
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Everyone has a vice.
 
The thing about this, is what's the big deal? It seems like every famous person does this...I get it.

on a side note...what about Taylor Swift...she's one of the hottest artists now and she has kept her good girl image
 
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Take heed to the words spoken from 2:55 - 4:30 by one of my teachers and comrades.

Let that advice help guide your search for truth.

"Your thoughts are anchored to a greater reality based off of the symbols that you have in your mind. Ifyou don't have symbols that belong to you...you are operating under the auspices of the symbol maker"

"Consciousness is not about all the time finding fault....consciousness is the full spectrum of the experience. If youconsistently look and find things negative external to the self, it is validating that those things you see live within you."

Don't get caught up in the paranoia and propaganda. Understand the larger spectrum of information pertaining to thesesubjects and learn the inner workings of the systems, which make up the whole.

Thats why I try to give you the background info on the relevant topics and implore you to do your own research. That way youcan come to your own conclusions based off of your own reality and experiences. Making the big picture clearer to youand allowing you to reside in your own mental universe founded on and protected by truth.
 
i think some of the people who think mos did something wrong in this video didnt listen to the ecstatic. in the song priority he is talking about peace and godbeing placed above everything so i doubt he worships demons. Also at the begining of the supermagic track the Malcolm X quote says we are living in a timewhere the people in power have misused it. my guess is he and the director placed those images in the video on purpose to bring attention to what other artistsare doing. this is just my guess though and this is a great thread i learned alot
 
The problem is truth in relation to what .... Anyways I'm not going to get too much into my own beliefs on this ...... but one thing I've foundinteresting is mind control experiments .... looking into that makes .... the constant appearance of these symbols, make alot more sense and connects some dots.......... plus if anyone here ever lookied into PUA stuff .... and some of the material on NLP and anchoring ... should take a step back and look at thesethings on a broader scale ......
 
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

I'm gonna be sad once the gov't nabs Haze...
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Word up.
My son might get a little to close for comfort one day.
But at the same time dudes is so blind to the truth that the powers that be don't worry about cats like Haze
They know that his message falls on deaf ears unfortunately
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Originally Posted by JFMartiMcDandruff

The thing about this, is what's the big deal? It seems like every famous person does this...I get it.

on a side note...what about Taylor Swift...she's one of the hottest artists now and she has kept her good girl image
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Have you seen her recent picture? All of that is out the window...

Some also believe that the whole Kanye/Taylor/Beyonce thing was just a fake thing...

How they both have on red dresses when Beyonce called her up?
 
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