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Oakland RAIDERS Off-Season Thread: Under New Management
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Ha, those are sick. I wonder how much it would be to make the same shoe in iD without the emblem on the tongue.
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It's like a mirror image of what we saw/heard about Moore this time last year.
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Big feature on Terrelle Pryor Sunday. He does not see himself as a No. 3 quarterback, and not really even a No. 2 for that matter, but admits that he has a lot to learn from starter Carson Palmer.
Pryor has worked extensively with new Raiders quarterback coach John DeFilippo this offseason and has also reached out to Raiders greats of the past. He called Rich Gannon up and hopes to work out with the former quarterback and further pick his brain.
“I called him and he gave me some wisdom on the game of football,
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Pryor on Late Hits today on SiriusXMNFL with Bill Polian and Alex Marvez.
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If Pryor is able to win the second string spot we have to be encouraged and looking at him as the potential QB of the future, right? He does seem very serious about getting better, he has the physical attributes necassary to help him succeed. He needs to redevelop his footwork and throwing mechanics for sure, but if Aaron Rodgers can sit behind Favre and have Green Bay rebuild him into what he is now, why not for Terrelle?
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Raiders' professor of defense
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It's a good thing that Jason Tarver mastered (as in degree) biochemistry and molecular biology. Because he is taking on much uglier, more complicated material now.
How are the Raiders going to stop the run?
And when he's done with that decade-old problem, Oakland's bright-eyed new defensive coordinator can tackle this brainteaser:
How are the Raiders going to stop the pass?
Oakland, which won eight games last season on the strength of its offense, became one of four teams to allow at least 30 TD passes and 5.0 yards per carry in a season. (Not to mention the entire squad's NFL-record 163 penalties for 1,358 yards.) The Raiders had a lot of high-priced players, but few, if any, playmakers on defense.
And then, in the offseason, Oakland cut leading pass-rusher Kamerion Wimbley for salary-cap reasons and also let go of its two starting cornerbacks, Stanford Routt and Chris Johnson.
The Raiders replaced them with several veterans signed to one-year contracts and rookies drafted after the second round, as they didn't have any early picks.
All of which explains why Tarver can't go into a lot of detail when asked what the Raiders' defense is going to look like. He doesn't know yet.
Discovery mode
The team was back on the field for organized workouts Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, and Tarver and new head coach Dennis Allen are still in discovery mode.
"Put all these guys out here and see who can play and who can learn and who can communicate and who can fit with your group," Tarver said.
Allen and general manager Reggie McKenzie found Tarver right down the road, as he was a first-year co-defensive coordinator at Stanford. Tarver, 37, had spent the previous decade as a 49ers assistant coach, including six seasons coaching the outside linebackers.
Never mind that the Raiders turned to Tarver after striking out with five other defensive-coordinator candidates. They got the right man, new Raiders and former 49ers cornerback Shawntae Spencer said.
"He is a rising star," Spencer said. "Been underused for so long. He just has so much intelligence when it comes to the X's and O's. He is one of the brightest minds out there."
Tarver and Allen, a defensive coordinator with the Broncos last season, aren't letting too much out of the bag about the defense yet. It will have many different looks, with man-to-man, zone and zone-pressure packages all featuring a lot of blitzes.
Although in the last couple of years, the Raiders relied on Wimbley or their Richard Seymour-led defensive line to make a play, Tarver and Allen want to take advantage of the range, versatility and blitzing skills of safeties Tyvon Branch and Michael Huff.
"We're going to be multiple," Tarver said. "One of our phrases is 'multiplicity through simplicity,' so we're going to have defenses where everyone is going to have a turn to cover and rush and those type things."
Favorable reviews
The players, new and old, like what they have learned so far about the defensive looks.
"I love the scheme," said cornerback Ron Bartell, one of the players who was given a one-year, show-me contract. "It puts a lot of different people in positions to make plays. Some schemes are predicated upon D-line, some are on linebackers, some are on secondary play."
Right now, nearly two months from training camp, is a time for teaching. Good thing that Tarver is a teacher.
A Foothill High (Pleasanton) alum, Tarver received a scholarship to play at Santa Clara, but the school dropped football a few months later. He played defensive back in 1994 and 1995 at West Valley College in Saratoga.
He received his bachelor's degree in chemistry from Santa Clara in 1997. He also earned his master's degree in biochemistry and molecular biology from UCLA and the departmental prize for distinguished teaching in 1998 and 2000. He caught the "coaching football bug" shortly thereafter.
One can picture Tarver writing on a chalkboard his list of rules that will help his defensive players pass their tests against opposing teams.
"The test for players is when the offense presents you a look, a quiz question, which is a formation, then you gotta use your rules for that formation," Tarver said. "And then things move, and then you've got to apply your rules as it's going.
"It's applying it throughout the play. ... What happens most of the time is somebody found a way to get somebody messed up out of a rule or something, or 'shoot, I just didn't see that guy.' My rule tells me, look at him.
"If you know your rules, if you execute your rules, there's very little that can hurt you. And then all 11 guys gotta do the rules at the same time. That's why you practice."
Reece back: Raiders fullback Marcel Reece signed his exclusive-rights tender with the team and was back on the field Monday for organized team activities. Reece, 27 in a couple of weeks, wanted a long-term contract but instead will earn $540,000 next season and be a restricted free agent next year.
Deficient defense
The Raiders ranked near the bottom of the NFL in points, total yards, passing yards and rushing yards allowed per game last season:
Points: 27.1 (29th in NFL)
Total yards: 387.6 (29)
Passing yards: 251.4 (27)
Rushing yards: 136.1 (27)
Note: Oakland had franchise worsts in touchdown passes allowed (31), yards per carry (5.1), yards passing (4,262) and total yards (6,201), and gave up the third-most points (433) in team history.
Vittorio Tafur is a San Francisco Chronicle staff writer. E-mail: vtafur@sfchronicle.com Twitter: @VittorioTafur
This article appeared on page B - 6 of the San Francisco Chronicle
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi...1OSI5H.DTL#ixzz1wwemVWac
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It's a good thing that Jason Tarver mastered (as in degree) biochemistry and molecular biology. Because he is taking on much uglier, more complicated material now.
How are the Raiders going to stop the run?
And when he's done with that decade-old problem, Oakland's bright-eyed new defensive coordinator can tackle this brainteaser:
How are the Raiders going to stop the pass?
Oakland, which won eight games last season on the strength of its offense, became one of four teams to allow at least 30 TD passes and 5.0 yards per carry in a season. (Not to mention the entire squad's NFL-record 163 penalties for 1,358 yards.) The Raiders had a lot of high-priced players, but few, if any, playmakers on defense.
And then, in the offseason, Oakland cut leading pass-rusher Kamerion Wimbley for salary-cap reasons and also let go of its two starting cornerbacks, Stanford Routt and Chris Johnson.
The Raiders replaced them with several veterans signed to one-year contracts and rookies drafted after the second round, as they didn't have any early picks.
All of which explains why Tarver can't go into a lot of detail when asked what the Raiders' defense is going to look like. He doesn't know yet.
Discovery mode
The team was back on the field for organized workouts Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, and Tarver and new head coach Dennis Allen are still in discovery mode.
"Put all these guys out here and see who can play and who can learn and who can communicate and who can fit with your group," Tarver said.
Allen and general manager Reggie McKenzie found Tarver right down the road, as he was a first-year co-defensive coordinator at Stanford. Tarver, 37, had spent the previous decade as a 49ers assistant coach, including six seasons coaching the outside linebackers.
Never mind that the Raiders turned to Tarver after striking out with five other defensive-coordinator candidates. They got the right man, new Raiders and former 49ers cornerback Shawntae Spencer said.
"He is a rising star," Spencer said. "Been underused for so long. He just has so much intelligence when it comes to the X's and O's. He is one of the brightest minds out there."
Tarver and Allen, a defensive coordinator with the Broncos last season, aren't letting too much out of the bag about the defense yet. It will have many different looks, with man-to-man, zone and zone-pressure packages all featuring a lot of blitzes.
Although in the last couple of years, the Raiders relied on Wimbley or their Richard Seymour-led defensive line to make a play, Tarver and Allen want to take advantage of the range, versatility and blitzing skills of safeties Tyvon Branch and Michael Huff.
"We're going to be multiple," Tarver said. "One of our phrases is 'multiplicity through simplicity,' so we're going to have defenses where everyone is going to have a turn to cover and rush and those type things."
Favorable reviews
The players, new and old, like what they have learned so far about the defensive looks.
"I love the scheme," said cornerback Ron Bartell, one of the players who was given a one-year, show-me contract. "It puts a lot of different people in positions to make plays. Some schemes are predicated upon D-line, some are on linebackers, some are on secondary play."
Right now, nearly two months from training camp, is a time for teaching. Good thing that Tarver is a teacher.
A Foothill High (Pleasanton) alum, Tarver received a scholarship to play at Santa Clara, but the school dropped football a few months later. He played defensive back in 1994 and 1995 at West Valley College in Saratoga.
He received his bachelor's degree in chemistry from Santa Clara in 1997. He also earned his master's degree in biochemistry and molecular biology from UCLA and the departmental prize for distinguished teaching in 1998 and 2000. He caught the "coaching football bug" shortly thereafter.
One can picture Tarver writing on a chalkboard his list of rules that will help his defensive players pass their tests against opposing teams.
"The test for players is when the offense presents you a look, a quiz question, which is a formation, then you gotta use your rules for that formation," Tarver said. "And then things move, and then you've got to apply your rules as it's going.
"It's applying it throughout the play. ... What happens most of the time is somebody found a way to get somebody messed up out of a rule or something, or 'shoot, I just didn't see that guy.' My rule tells me, look at him.
"If you know your rules, if you execute your rules, there's very little that can hurt you. And then all 11 guys gotta do the rules at the same time. That's why you practice."
Reece back: Raiders fullback Marcel Reece signed his exclusive-rights tender with the team and was back on the field Monday for organized team activities. Reece, 27 in a couple of weeks, wanted a long-term contract but instead will earn $540,000 next season and be a restricted free agent next year.
Deficient defense
The Raiders ranked near the bottom of the NFL in points, total yards, passing yards and rushing yards allowed per game last season:
Points: 27.1 (29th in NFL)
Total yards: 387.6 (29)
Passing yards: 251.4 (27)
Rushing yards: 136.1 (27)
Note: Oakland had franchise worsts in touchdown passes allowed (31), yards per carry (5.1), yards passing (4,262) and total yards (6,201), and gave up the third-most points (433) in team history.
Vittorio Tafur is a San Francisco Chronicle staff writer. E-mail: vtafur@sfchronicle.com Twitter: @VittorioTafur
This article appeared on page B - 6 of the San Francisco Chronicle
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi...1OSI5H.DTL#ixzz1wwemVWac
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Who were the other five defensive coordinator candidates that the articles mentions the Raiders missing out on?
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Greg Manusky (Chargers defensive Coordinator), Ed Donatell (49ers secondary coach), Richard Smith (Broncos LB coach), Dom Capers (Packers D coordinator), WInston Moss (Packers inside LB coach)
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Ochocinco-Palmer reunion?
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If Criner turns out to be what I think he will and DHB+Moore+Ford continue to grow, our WR core is set.
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Yup our WR are looking good. We get to keep our 1st pick in the next draft.
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How?
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So we're giving up a second round pick no matter what?
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Boss: 'I'm on the better side' of Chiefs-Raiders rivalry
By Marc Sessler
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Published: June 9, 2012 at 02:44 p.m. Updated: June 9, 2012 at 03:12 p.m.
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It's only June, but it's never too early to fan the flames of discord between the Oakland Raiders and Kansas City Chiefs.
These teams have been waging war for decades, dating back to their bitter dispute in the old days of the AFL.
Tight end Kevin Boss tossed another log on the fire this week. After spending last season with the Raiders, Boss has found a new home with the Chiefs, where he'll team with Tony Moeaki to form one of the division's better tight end pairings (although neither made Rosenthal's top 10 list).
Boss sounds like a man happy to shed the garb of the Silver and Black.
"I was in Oakland for such a short period of time that it wasn't really something where I really understood the whole Chiefs-Raiders rivalry," Boss told KCSP-AM in Kansas City, via SportsRadioInterviews.com. "I just know now that I'm on the better side of the rivalry. ... It's been a great transition and it's really been a blessing in disguise to have been moved on to greener pastures."
For a man who doesn't claim to understand the nature of this rivalry, Boss exhibits a preternatural knack for irritating the citizens of Oakland. This is promising.
By Marc Sessler
Writer
Published: June 9, 2012 at 02:44 p.m. Updated: June 9, 2012 at 03:12 p.m.
It's only June, but it's never too early to fan the flames of discord between the Oakland Raiders and Kansas City Chiefs.
These teams have been waging war for decades, dating back to their bitter dispute in the old days of the AFL.
Tight end Kevin Boss tossed another log on the fire this week. After spending last season with the Raiders, Boss has found a new home with the Chiefs, where he'll team with Tony Moeaki to form one of the division's better tight end pairings (although neither made Rosenthal's top 10 list).
Boss sounds like a man happy to shed the garb of the Silver and Black.
"I was in Oakland for such a short period of time that it wasn't really something where I really understood the whole Chiefs-Raiders rivalry," Boss told KCSP-AM in Kansas City, via SportsRadioInterviews.com. "I just know now that I'm on the better side of the rivalry. ... It's been a great transition and it's really been a blessing in disguise to have been moved on to greener pastures."
For a man who doesn't claim to understand the nature of this rivalry, Boss exhibits a preternatural knack for irritating the citizens of Oakland. This is promising.
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Seems like a delusional ex.
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How would he know he played in Like 3 Games last year
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There is talk that Mike Goodson is making noise
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Funny thing about mentioning KC is that I read in ESPN's mailbag for the AFC West that, were a team to move into LA that isn't the Raiders, Chargers or Rams, there's a chance the Chiefs would be moved out of the division. The reason is that they are furthest from the other three and the new LA team would be moved into our division before going into the NFC West, where they are already set with four.
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I was wondering about that also but they might move the Seahawks if the Jags did come here.
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"Our defense has everything -- every possible coverage, every alignment," he said.
"(It's difficult) just getting to know our offense and how to execute against every look in the book, every look you could possibly see from every defense across the entire NFL. Our defense does a lot."
"(It's difficult) just getting to know our offense and how to execute against every look in the book, every look you could possibly see from every defense across the entire NFL. Our defense does a lot."
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