Official Air Jordan IV white/cement release thread 2/18/12:::NO BUYING/SELLING/TRADING:::

[dhdSupreme]

anybody grab theirs via natterjacks?

 

[ekhunter1]

yeah mad cat creepin in my mall, white dudes that look like geeks that are corny as hell with they mom and @%#$.. so lame, nxt time ima rob a @@*#$!!!


j.k.

im glad i got a 9.5 eventho i need a 12

 

[sourkush]

im surprised no ones commenting on the way these fit , i was lucky enough to get a size 9.5 which i never wear n tried them in to my surprised they fit perfect , but i wanted to get my normal 10.5 which i try on now , and its almost a full size bigger , these retros are crazy sizing isnt even true to whats on the label .
i dont see how they can be so off with the shape color and now sizing ,SMH !!!

 

[bence23]

Originally Posted by trappedintime

Originally Posted by philaflava1

those who come in here and talk about coping with ease, does it make you feel warm and fuzzy inside once you hit quick reply? what are you insecure and 12? i got my pair after having troubles last night but i wouldn't gloat, nor would i come in here and rub it in others faces when we all know nothing about this release was EASY.

if you woke up on a saturday morning before 9AM, that wasn't easy.

if you refreshed the check out on FNL, eastbay or any other site more than 2 times last night, it wasn't easy.

if you waited patiently for Nike to fail us with their Twitter updates, it wasn't easy.

if you had to wait in line for more than 30 minutes, it wasn't easy.

NOTHING was really easy because if it was, we'd all have pairs. that isn't the case.

stop bragging about nonsense.

Nope, wasn't easy and I haven't been bragging, but I also made sure I knew my options and where my backup plan could be executed. A lot of people around here are lazy, can't even find out when their local spots are going to open or how many pairs they'll have, what websites domestically and abroad will be selling them, etc. Everyone has different circumstances, but I knew I could get in line at 8:30 or 9 and secure 2 pairs this morning if I had to. Some people had no clue who would have them, have their size, where to even look.

co-sign. this new breed is so lazy. they never wanna do leg work. they go on message boards asking people worldwide what time shops in their area open. The reason ive never missed out is because Im super OCD and paranoid and do extensive leg work. I have convos with managers on release weeks, call third shift mall security, get plan ABCDEF in order. I will admit I almost missed this one because security kept kicking me out for getting there early and then the mob showed up before i did, but i got my pair.
 Im sure there will be restocks, be patient fellas.

 

[swagbag]

These fit dumb big...

 

[Moderngz]

So far the most horrible experience to buy shoes but I got my size thank God. Long story short mall was packed, footlocker workers are shady, my bank card starts trippin and they tell me I got 10 minutes to fix situation, my size ran out so I had to copp another size and soon as I get home with the homie we start looking for trades online and end up finding some one. And now I just found out from a close friend that a new local store that just opened is receiving there shipment late and will have their shipment in on Tuesday.

 

[spizike231]

Originally Posted by Sourkush

im surprised no ones commenting on the way these fit , i was lucky enough to get a size 9.5 which i never wear n tried them in to my surprised they fit perfect , but i wanted to get my normal 10.5 which i try on now , and its almost a full size bigger , these retros are crazy sizing isnt even true to whats on the label .
i dont see how they can be so off with the shape color and now sizing ,SMH !!!

I have the exact same thing!!! 



Had to get a 10.5 instead of a 11.5 and they fit perfect.. I think it has to do w/ a combination of my feet being odd shaped or something and the fact that these are not sized off right. At all. All that half size big / small nonsense is out the window now. I got a FULL SIZE down and these are sick on feet. 

 

[MVP]

This was a relatively easy cop for me this morning after the debacle on NDC last night, wasn't even planning on getting them, but while I was in line for the Cloaks in HOH Miami, I thought I'm here might as well go ahead and get the IVs too.

 

[Fadess_Kicks]

Easy cop for me.Went to %!%%+ stood in line for 5 minutes and was 3rd in line.Love when these shoe rookies don't know the stores to go to.

 

[spizike231]

Originally Posted by proballer

^^^Be ready to get banned

Let him get banned. That's his second time posting just to have people peep his sig. 

 

[ab doom]

INCOME TAX CHECKS...NUFF SAID!

 

[futuredhughes]

Sorry for the "hiatus"

Fell asleep.

Anyways I see the topic jumped like 50+ pages today, so I'm a just post my pics (like everyone else).

Now, without further ado:

& my vid review of YT.

Review starts of the kicks start at 2:00 in.

 

[swagbag]

imma go out like a gee den

 

[keepemclean23]

Originally Posted by AB Doom

INCOME TAX CHECKS...NUFF SAID!

true story !

 

[odog24]

my 3 finishline orders are still pending on paypal

what should i expect???

 

[casper90403]

Originally Posted by Tang

Easy cop for me.Went to %!%%+ stood in line for 5 minutes and was 3rd in line.Love when these shoe rookies don't know the stores to go to.

you win dude. have another cookie. Where do you live, Hungary?

Try standing in line and copping after 5 minutes here in LA. If it werent for NTLA registration, I'd SOL. 

Now for my 2nd pair from Snipes. ANybody else order from them yesterday?  

 

[dharv]

Originally Posted by papeshfoo

Originally Posted by PainBL

Originally Posted by ooIRON MANoo

Internet was around at the turn of the century and it wasn't this bad champ, good job trying to justify what people do now.
Even back then they were widely available.  GR's stores could get multiple orders, none of this created limited availability.

All retro's from the start until about 2005 were an easy buy, walk in and walk out with no hassle.  Then it died out a bit completely and came back with a fervor after the Space Jams dropped a couple of years ago.

It's not inflation though boss.  IV's were $100 back then, and that was with marketing and development in the books.  Now, they are $160 with cheaper materials, no R&D, and no ads.  Think about it.  It's bad that Nike/JB has priced these too high, forces the secondary market to sell them high as well in order to turn a very minimal profit.

It's still not acceptable to drop $150+ on a pair of sneakers.  Maybe in this community, but outside of it, people will not understand.  Good try though, A for Effort, D for execution.

Market manipulation, JB is creating supply and demand.

I'm sure I'll get flamed by some of the noobs after this for saying what I feel.

Got to agree with Iron Man though. It's not the internet, these problems nowadays are more about people and how they conduct themselves, along with JB manipulating and exploiting consumers. Things have never been this bad except for when XI's would periodically release. I've seen hundreds of releases in one way or another since I started regularly buying J's (meaning more than once a year) around 1996 or so. But the ever increasing hoarding and greed that I see in our "hobby" continues to surprise and disappoint me. The most disgusted I've ever been with a release, or with this "hobby", was probably last night, despite the fact that I did eventually get an order through.

June 1, 1999 I happened upon a small local mom and pop that was selling the white/cement IV's a day early and established a connection that I still have to this day. Got the IV's for $99.99 plus tax. No lines, no riots, no trouble.

June 2, 1999 I waited outside a local Footaction on release day about half an hour before they opened, with about 2 or 3 other people. Got a second pair for $99.99 plus tax. No lines, no riots, no trouble, and 2 were enough for me.

How much things change. Nearly 13 years later on February 17-February 18, 2012 starting at 9PM Pacific Time I tried nearly in vain for 4 hours to call various places and order off of various websites. As the single parent of a 14 month old toddler now, I refuse to actually take her out in the hysteria that accompanies many recent Jordan releases. I barely got an order through on FNL. So far it's looking legit as I got a confirmation and they charged my debit card. More than anything I found that Eastbay's phone and online systems have become a total joke, along with Nike's and Finish Line's websites, for which I feel there are no excuses. Each entity makes MILLIONS off of a SINGLE release, I think they can afford infrastructure improvements.

But infrastructure is only a piece of the problem. A bigger piece? People. Resellers are part of it. So are beasts who hoard and buy up everything they can get like there's no tomorrow. Or cats salty because they couldn't get their own size so they buy all the bigger ones to flip. How many of all of the above have you seen bragging in this thread alone? People acting like Dependable Jay, buying 4, 6, 8 pairs that they'll never actually use. If it's something I personally learned from my time in this "hobby" the past decade, it's that people don't need to hoard 20 pairs of a single colorway when there's a bunch more folks out there who never even got 1. You get hit by a bus tomorrow, it's not like you're taking them with you. I used to collect because it was fun and not nearly impossible to do. Not so much anymore.

Don't think JB and even MJ himself don't realize and exploit this. Many of us repeatedly go through all the headache, caused by insufficient infrastructure and peoples' greed, to cop releases, and for what? The "privilege" of paying for a more cheaply made pair of kicks that have been marked up 60% in a decade. Since when has inflation in America accounted for a 60% raise in the price of ANY consumer product in the course of 13 years? Besides maybe gasoline? I think JB's business practices are shady at best, and many times shameful. It manipulates supply and demand masterfully, and succeeds despite not actually "caring" about whether its consumers are satisfied in the end. It knows regardless of what it puts out that many of us will be back like crack fiends. It especially exploits the idea that its products are luxury items in lower income urban communities and thrives off of that. I swear, JB has got to be one of the very few corporations that have strengthened during the recession, it's unbelievable. I used to respect and look up to MJ as an athlete, but in recent years I see him for the person he really is-a petty, greedy egomaniac above all else. I kind of laugh a little inside when I think how his "brand" has signed so many eventually faded athletes who were once pegged as the "next Jordans" in their sport. Look at how that also translates to how he runs the Bobcats and what a great record they've had since he took over, LOL. I smile because I know it's got to be eating him alive that he can't seem to put together a winner on the court.

So why exactly is it I still buy J's at all if I'm so dissatisfied with him and his brand? It used to be a lot about what MJ did in them. Now it's more about what I did in them. When I first had many of my OG's as well as earlier Retros like the '99 black/cement IV's, white/cement IV's, '00 black/silver V's, etc. it was a much simpler time in my life with lots of fond memories from those times. I won't fund a reseller's habit, so if I don't get stuff at or below retail I don't get it. If I miss out, like with the Concords, it's not like the sun won't come up tomorrow or anything. And I know I'm not saying anything new, so take this all however you want. I know you noobs will just say I sound like a grumpy old man. Whatever.

It just sucks when people miss out on getting 1 or 2 pairs of a shoe they really want because of so many other greedy hoarding bastards.

Sounds like me and you are around the same age...I feel the EXACT same way but I don't ever express it because of all the young arseholes on this board.  90% of the time, this board is just as bad as the servers for these sites on release days.  Riddle me this, PM me that.  This board was created to HELP people, not horde all the information to a select few.  I have been a member of this board for over 7 years, been through a few screen names, and have NEVER seen such childish games being played.  Don't even get me started on the re-sellers, im liable to smash my laptop just thinking about it...

I feel your pain man. I'm 31, and have been collecting sneakers for years brotha. In '01, I remember showing these kids my collection of AF1's and J's, now the same kids (now adults) are paying high schoolers $25-$50 dollars to wait in line so they can flip the kicks. Concord release one of them had 15 heads waiting for him. Even though I am cool with him as a person, I have a bad taste in my mouth when I see others left out. They don't make people like us anymore. I think about those 15+ kids that missed out due to the hypebeasts taking all their sneakers. One of those people might be one that has saved MONTHS to get that nice sneaker. Today, I ended up cutting the line because I knew a kid closer to the front, and I happened to get the last 10.5. There were others out there with their parents, just trying to be cool. I feel horrible when I take what shouldn't have been mine in the 1st place. I ALMOST gave my pair to this lady and her son wanting a 10.5. He looked like a nerd that was just trying to be cool. For some reason I didn't, and now I feel like a part of the problem.

 

[luckyiam619]

I also tried ordering from NDC, which was a big mistake. Luckily my homie in LA got me a pair so I'm good, but NDC was nothing but a waste of time! smh

 

[jumpmanpro97]

Originally Posted by casper90403

Originally Posted by Tang

Easy cop for me.Went to %!%%+ stood in line for 5 minutes and was 3rd in line.Love when these shoe rookies don't know the stores to go to.

you win dude. have another cookie. Where do you live, Hungary?

Try standing in line and copping after 5 minutes here in LA. If it werent for NTLA registration, I'd SOL. 

Now for my 2nd pair from Snipes. ANybody else order from them yesterday?  

3rd in line here in LA means its thursday night going into friday morning lol 

 

[sneakerfan1]

Originally Posted by spizike231

Originally Posted by Sourkush

im surprised no ones commenting on the way these fit , i was lucky enough to get a size 9.5 which i never wear n tried them in to my surprised they fit perfect , but i wanted to get my normal 10.5 which i try on now , and its almost a full size bigger , these retros are crazy sizing isnt even true to whats on the label .
i dont see how they can be so off with the shape color and now sizing ,SMH !!!

I have the exact same thing!!! 



Had to get a 10.5 instead of a 11.5 and they fit perfect.. I think it has to do w/ a combination of my feet being odd shaped or something and the fact that these are not sized off right. At all. All that half size big / small nonsense is out the window now. I got a FULL SIZE down and these are sick on feet. 

I wear a size 11.5.  Haven't bought anything else in J's, this was no different.  They fit me perfect.

Everyone's feet are different.

Only complaint I have on these (minor all things considered) is that the tongue on the IV's have become anorexic.  For a 2012 retro though I love these.  Please do my Black Cement's justice JB.

 

[barry]

Got my pairs. Got to mall at 5am, 8th in line.
Not sure why there is all the talk about sizing, I am always an 11 and these fit fine

 

[verdykt]

Got my pair pretty easily. Just had to get to the mall at 4:30 to get them. This dude was getting mad at the people in front of him for no reason. Super annoying

 

[phiberoptik]

You got to be quick at NDC, I ordered exactly 15 seconds after they posted the link.

 

[proballer]

Originally Posted by odog24

my 3 finishline orders are still pending on paypal

what should i expect???

Prognosis does not look good my friend...FNL is hit and miss most often

 

[cashm0neyand1]

Originally Posted by phiberoptik

You got to be quick at NDC, I ordered exactly 15 seconds after they posted the link.

it was ridiculous. you had to be the first person to click it. 4 hours of my life that i will never get back.