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[Fozz]

Hunna!

 

[mplsdunk]

We actually used to have worse laws than y’all when it comes to opioids
When I was a kid, codeine and tramadol weren’t prescription meds. Y’all were ahead by like a whole decade when it came to restricting those.

Classifying them as controlled substances was roughly around the same time though.
That’s also when the huge push to avoid prescribing any form of opioids began.

I used to live with a Chinese dude, those pharmacies weren’t stopping anything when my boy would touch down with Chinese adderall, percs and commie cigs straight from Beijing.

Don’t @ me atf this was a decade ago

 

[jshortt]

I got in a car accident I had stuff I didn’t even ask for, anti psychotics for anxiety because I was stuck in the hospital

I didn’t even say I was anxious they just gave it to me

They kept me on a morphine and dilaudid drip for long af too. Like they’re just trying to get you hooked. It’s ok to feel physical pain…

A little over a year ago, I went to the emergency room with what turned out to be a kidney stone. They kept asking me about my pain level and I kept telling them it's basically 0-1 at the moment. They immediately tried to hook me up to a morphine drip, and I was like whoa, WTF are you doing? They kept telling me it would help with the pain and I kept telling them I literally just told you I wasn't in any pain at the moment. I flat refused it, and they finally backed down, but acted like I was nuts for doing so. Went and did an MRI that confirmed a kidney stone, and the nurse came in talking 100 miles a minute. I had somewhere I had to be, and she's trying to tell me about all this stuff she's prescribing and cracks open a single dose pill package. She hands it to me with a cup of water and says you won't be able to drive after you take this (I had driven myself there). I asked WTF they were giving me that would cause me to not be able to drive? Oh, it's Percocet. Literally zero conversation with me about any of it. I handed it back and told them I was good. Again, nurse looked at me like I was nuts. I'm like how many times do I have to tell y'all I'm NOT IN PAIN? Only thing that hurts on me right now is where y'all jammed this goddamn IV into the top of my hand. Then the nurse got an attitude like "siiigh, well I guess I have to go waste this somewhere else." Told her that wasn't my fault and she should've tried having a conversation with me before she cracked it. Sent me home with like 5 prescriptions, including freakin oxys, which I ended up flushing. You guys aren't lying about these places trying to get you hooked.

 

[mplsdunk]

That’s how it goes, they try to gas light you like you’re in more pain than you are or need seroquil (sp) too in my case because I’m bored, not tweaking or anything just bored.

They want you to feel nothing in there, and you weren’t even in pain so there’s no excuse for that.

They could have opened up a whole new addiction or started up an old one again to the wrong person. They don’t know

 

[Belgium]

A little over a year ago, I went to the emergency room with what turned out to be a kidney stone. They kept asking me about my pain level and I kept telling them it's basically 0-1 at the moment. They immediately tried to hook me up to a morphine drip, and I was like whoa, WTF are you doing? They kept telling me it would help with the pain and I kept telling them I literally just told you I wasn't in any pain at the moment. I flat refused it, and they finally backed down, but acted like I was nuts for doing so. Went and did an MRI that confirmed a kidney stone, and the nurse came in talking 100 miles a minute. I had somewhere I had to be, and she's trying to tell me about all this stuff she's prescribing and cracks open a single dose pill package. She hands it to me with a cup of water and says you won't be able to drive after you take this (I had driven myself there). I asked WTF they were giving me that would cause me to not be able to drive? Oh, it's Percocet. Literally zero conversation with me about any of it. I handed it back and told them I was good. Again, nurse looked at me like I was nuts. I'm like how many times do I have to tell y'all I'm NOT IN PAIN? Only thing that hurts on me right now is where y'all jammed this goddamn IV into the top of my hand. Then the nurse got an attitude like "siiigh, well I guess I have to go waste this somewhere else." Told her that wasn't my fault and she should've tried having a conversation with me before she cracked it. Sent me home with like 5 prescriptions, including freakin oxys, which I ended up flushing. You guys aren't lying about these places trying to get you hooked.

That’s wild
Just to paint a picture of the contrast, I remember what they had me on during my hospital stay after the lung surgery vs sending me home with Tylenol.

All at the same time for 3 days, including up until the moment of sending me home with only Tylenol:
- Morphine drip (unsure of dosage)
- Tramadol IV (unsure of dosage, multiple bags a day)
- Dipidolor injections (2 a day)
- Sufentanil IV (unsure of dosage)

Adding the Sufentanil was too much actually. That stuff’s like 500x as potent as morphine and they had to immediately disconnect that IV because it temporarily paralyzed my left arm and made me itch all over, while simultaneously being completely immobile from the surgery and zooted out of my mind from the meds.
I remember being shocked the body can handle such a ridiculous cocktail of opioids in the first place without ODing.

To go from all that to pulling out the chest tube and subsequently being handed a couple Tylenols with my discharge paperwork was baffling. I was damn near crying begging for anything aside from just Tylenol and they just flatly refused and left. Went straight to my general physician to get some proper painkillers for that recovery period.
Trying to avoid breeding addicts is nice and all but at some point you gotta have some common sense.

 

[aepps20]

I used to spew liberal talking points fed to me by certain moderators and administrators on this website for years.There was almost nothing that I wouldn’t do for a Klondike Vegetable Wrap. Thankfully I’ve repaid all of the SOROS dollars and 2016 happened and certain NTers that I respect ninjahood and jrose5 conducted an intervention and I have never been the same.

 

[gry60]

"kHAmaSs fIgHTeRs aRe hIdïnG tHeRe" was a pretty popular lie back then, even being echoed #OnHere

Watch Schumer jump right from the Israel war criminal parade to pride parade.

Can we not fall for the fallacy of the weak, good guy?

Pro-Palestinian groups have famously rejected support from the LGBT community, and Hamas doesn't automatically tell the truth just because they are outgunned.

The question has never been whether Hamas fights by hiding within civilians (that's the nature of asymmetrical warfare); the question has always been whether Hamas doing so justifies Israel leveling entire neighborhoods/buildings (it doesn't, but Israel doesn't care, and Western governments have been giving them a pass).

 

[plansb]

A little over a year ago, I went to the emergency room with what turned out to be a kidney stone. They kept asking me about my pain level and I kept telling them it's basically 0-1 at the moment. They immediately tried to hook me up to a morphine drip, and I was like whoa, WTF are you doing? They kept telling me it would help with the pain and I kept telling them I literally just told you I wasn't in any pain at the moment. I flat refused it, and they finally backed down, but acted like I was nuts for doing so. Went and did an MRI that confirmed a kidney stone, and the nurse came in talking 100 miles a minute. I had somewhere I had to be, and she's trying to tell me about all this stuff she's prescribing and cracks open a single dose pill package. She hands it to me with a cup of water and says you won't be able to drive after you take this (I had driven myself there). I asked WTF they were giving me that would cause me to not be able to drive? Oh, it's Percocet. Literally zero conversation with me about any of it. I handed it back and told them I was good. Again, nurse looked at me like I was nuts. I'm like how many times do I have to tell y'all I'm NOT IN PAIN? Only thing that hurts on me right now is where y'all jammed this goddamn IV into the top of my hand. Then the nurse got an attitude like "siiigh, well I guess I have to go waste this somewhere else." Told her that wasn't my fault and she should've tried having a conversation with me before she cracked it. Sent me home with like 5 prescriptions, including freakin oxys, which I ended up flushing. You guys aren't lying about these places trying to get you hooked.

Lucky you. I had kidney stones and pain was 10/10 at the ER they wouldn’t give me **** until I told them I was leaving to go kill myself (pain was that bad).

 

[RustyShackleford]

I remember the first time I was prescribed Percocet after I got minor foot surgery. Felt like I had just activated bullet time

I was zooted, zooted.

Was in the apartment fighting a moth like....

 

[gry60]

She just recognized crazy…

 

[gry60]

I know it’s all anecdotal, but…

 

[IATT]

I remember the first time I was prescribed Percocet after I got minor foot surgery. Felt like I had just activated bullet time

I was zooted, zooted.

Was in the apartment fighting a moth like....

I only got 2 stories like this..

First time I took Ritalin or adderall (one of those adhd drugs) when I was stateside for boarding school.. sh had me a level of focus I had no damn business being, I was analyzing the edges of the computer and desk and shh

And then the brief period I took ambien.. shh had me feeling like I was in a Freddy movie.. I had vivid as hell dreams and I’d be fighting for my life but I couldn’t actually wake up

 

[Wargames]

All this talk about drugs makes me want to do drugs….. I cut back so far I am microdosing edibles every couple of weeks and getting drunk every couple of months. I lowkey miss drugs….. then again I probably just miss hanging out with my friends more.

 

[maq25060]

A little over a year ago, I went to the emergency room with what turned out to be a kidney stone. They kept asking me about my pain level and I kept telling them it's basically 0-1 at the moment. They immediately tried to hook me up to a morphine drip, and I was like whoa, WTF are you doing? They kept telling me it would help with the pain and I kept telling them I literally just told you I wasn't in any pain at the moment. I flat refused it, and they finally backed down, but acted like I was nuts for doing so. Went and did an MRI that confirmed a kidney stone, and the nurse came in talking 100 miles a minute. I had somewhere I had to be, and she's trying to tell me about all this stuff she's prescribing and cracks open a single dose pill package. She hands it to me with a cup of water and says you won't be able to drive after you take this (I had driven myself there). I asked WTF they were giving me that would cause me to not be able to drive? Oh, it's Percocet. Literally zero conversation with me about any of it. I handed it back and told them I was good. Again, nurse looked at me like I was nuts. I'm like how many times do I have to tell y'all I'm NOT IN PAIN? Only thing that hurts on me right now is where y'all jammed this goddamn IV into the top of my hand. Then the nurse got an attitude like "siiigh, well I guess I have to go waste this somewhere else." Told her that wasn't my fault and she should've tried having a conversation with me before she cracked it. Sent me home with like 5 prescriptions, including freakin oxys, which I ended up flushing. You guys aren't lying about these places trying to get you hooked.

Took my mom to the emergency room 10 or so years ago cuz her blood pressure was running high. Doc comes in...goes over the questions...at the end, asks my mom if she need anything. We're both like huh? He goes, you know...to take the edge off. It was weird as hell.

 

[maq25060]

All this talk about drugs makes me want to do drugs….. I cut back so far I am microdosing edibles every couple of weeks and getting drunk every couple of months. I lowkey miss drugs….. then again I probably just miss hanging out with my friends more.

I used to drink hard for a few months at a time, then stop completely for no purposefully defined period, but we're talking 6 - 8+ months of nothing.

Then covid happened and I let the media convince me that as a fat black man I was gonna die, so I just kept drinking and haven't stopped since.

I miss not drinking. Hard.

 

[IATT]

All this talk about drugs makes me want to do drugs….. I cut back so far I am microdosing edibles every couple of weeks and getting drunk every couple of months. I lowkey miss drugs….. then again I probably just miss hanging out with my friends more.

lord willing I don’t need any legit drugs anytime soon.. even when I’ve gotten hurt and been given serious pain meds, like say Vicodin, I didn’t think the pain was that bad and didn’t take much of it beyond first day or two

But even edibles I don’t f with.. cause that shh will hit you after a min and have you on another planet

Most I’m doing at this point is actually smoking weed.. or taking couple advil

 

[05fordgt]

Hearing some of these amazing recovery stories is why I NEVER took any of the prescription pain meds I was given for all of my different major surgeries. Back when I had J-Pouch surgery (to "cure" Ulcerative Colitis back in late 2001 to mid 2002 (it was a 2-pt surgery) and then my liver transplant in October 2003, they gave me Oxy, and Morphine pills when I got discharged. Never took anything for pain. Turns out I have a pretty crazy threshold of pain and don't really need anything. Back then, I just flushed the stuff, because I didn't want to become hooked on it. Even today, I never take anything that's stronger than an OTC acetaminophen.

I give everyone in this thread that overcame their dependency on the pain meds, major congrats for coming out the other side in better healthier shape.

 

[gry60]

‘Americans will be less safe’: alarm as Trump picks loyalist as intelligence chief

Bill Pulte, who does not have any national intelligence experience, is nicknamed ‘Little Trump’ among some

www.yahoo.com

Donald Trump’s decision to appoint Bill Pulte as the acting director of national intelligence has set off alarm bells in Washington, as a staunch Trump loyalist with little government experience who has shown an eagerness to retaliate against the president’s political rivals will now sit atop the US intelligence apparatus.

, whose grandfather started PulteGroup, a major residential homebuilder, had no government experience before Trump appointed him to lead the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA), an under-the-radar regulator that oversees the government lenders Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Shortly after arriving at the agency, he began to gut it, firing sizable chunks of the boards of both and appointing himself as chair. Pulte had no government experience before being appointed to the role and does not have national intelligence experience.

******* **** up with careless abandon lol.

 

[IATT]

 

[dmbrhs]

Hearing some of these amazing recovery stories is why I NEVER took any of the prescription pain meds I was given for all of my different major surgeries. Back when I had J-Pouch surgery (to "cure" Ulcerative Colitis back in late 2001 to mid 2002 (it was a 2-pt surgery) and then my liver transplant in October 2003, they gave me Oxy, and Morphine pills when I got discharged. Never took anything for pain. Turns out I have a pretty crazy threshold of pain and don't really need anything. Back then, I just flushed the stuff, because I didn't want to become hooked on it. Even today, I never take anything that's stronger than an OTC acetaminophen.

I give everyone in this thread that overcame their dependency on the pain meds, major congrats for coming out the other side in better healthier shape.

One of my best friends had surgery back in, like, 2011, which was the height of the opioid crisis. This is Seattle, so the pill mills weren't as prevalent as other areas of the country. But, he was prescribed Oxy. He gave me ten pills. I took one, and drank a bottle of wine that night. I flushed the rest down the toilet. Even I knew that was going to be a bad time in the long run. When I was in rehab in 2024, my roommate was one of those who got caught up in the pill mills in Florida. It ruined his life. It was wild.

 

[IATT]

Hearing some of these amazing recovery stories is why I NEVER took any of the prescription pain meds I was given for all of my different major surgeries. Back when I had J-Pouch surgery (to "cure" Ulcerative Colitis back in late 2001 to mid 2002 (it was a 2-pt surgery) and then my liver transplant in October 2003, they gave me Oxy, and Morphine pills when I got discharged. Never took anything for pain. Turns out I have a pretty crazy threshold of pain and don't really need anything. Back then, I just flushed the stuff, because I didn't want to become hooked on it. Even today, I never take anything that's stronger than an OTC acetaminophen.

I give everyone in this thread that overcame their dependency on the pain meds, major congrats for coming out the other side in better healthier shape.

High threshold for pain or the “walk it off” mentality could get you in trouble though

Had some shh pop up recently and the doctor was like I shoulda BEEN seen someone.. and he was like men have that tendency to say we need to tough out the shh instead of getting it checked

Was a relatively small thing but it coulda been bad bad if I just kept ignoring it or thinking it wasn’t actually something

 

[IATT]

 

[jshortt]

That’s how it goes, they try to gas light you like you’re in more pain than you are or need seroquil (sp) too in my case because I’m bored, not tweaking or anything just bored.

They want you to feel nothing in there, and you weren’t even in pain so there’s no excuse for that.

They could have opened up a whole new addiction or started up an old one again to the wrong person. They don’t know

This is EXACTLY what I told my fiancee. Good thing I have zero interest in that stuff.

That’s wild
Just to paint a picture of the contrast, I remember what they had me on during my hospital stay after the lung surgery vs sending me home with Tylenol.

All at the same time for 3 days, including up until the moment of sending me home with only Tylenol:
- Morphine drip (unsure of dosage)
- Tramadol IV (unsure of dosage, multiple bags a day)
- Dipidolor injections (2 a day)
- Sufentanil IV (unsure of dosage)

Adding the Sufentanil was too much actually. That stuff’s like 500x as potent as morphine and they had to immediately disconnect that IV because it temporarily paralyzed my left arm and made me itch all over, while simultaneously being completely immobile from the surgery and zooted out of my mind from the meds.
I remember being shocked the body can handle such a ridiculous cocktail of opioids in the first place without ODing.

To go from all that to pulling out the chest tube and subsequently being handed a couple Tylenols with my discharge paperwork was baffling. I was damn near crying begging for anything aside from just Tylenol and they just flatly refused and left. Went straight to my general physician to get some proper painkillers for that recovery period.
Trying to avoid breeding addicts is nice and all but at some point you gotta have some common sense.

This is absolutely nuts.

Lucky you. I had kidney stones and pain was 10/10 at the ER they wouldn’t give me **** until I told them I was leaving to go kill myself (pain was that bad).

Sounds like we should've switched emergency rooms.

Took my mom to the emergency room 10 or so years ago cuz her blood pressure was running high. Doc comes in...goes over the questions...at the end, asks my mom if she need anything. We're both like huh? He goes, you know...to take the edge off. It was weird as hell.

Again, we wonder how people get hooked lol.

 

[Wargames]

 

[Wargames]