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Will keep my thoughts about how I would treat Katrina Pearson's lying mouth to myself 8o [emoji]128540[/emoji]

This lady really seems to have it out for her :lol :
http://befuddledbytheclowns.blogspot.com/2016/03/spilling-beans-on-katrina-pierson.html

also, in response to that video clip above:

Pierson specifically said the words, “We weren’t even in Afghanistan by this time. Barack Obama went into Afghanistan, creating another problem.”

Her excuse appears to be audio issues:
Katrina Pierson [emoji]10004[/emoji]@KatrinaPierson
For the record, audio disruptions and echos should be fixed immediately. Especially when you say it out loud on the air. @CNN
 
^ I just still can't believe anybody would support him. Just because they don't support him, doesn't mean that they have to support Clinton. I just can't think of a quality of his character that can be supported.
 
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How anyone has legitimate faith in a blatantly deceitful liar like Hillary Clinton is beyond me. You've been duped.

God help our nation.
 
I don't think anybody here who is voting Hillary, doesn't already know what they are going to be getting from her.

And for the most part we're fine with it.


One thing I am excited about with Hillary is she's ready for a political fight.

If her policies move slightly to the left, I know she at least will put up a fight for it.
 
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One thing I am excited about with Hillary is she's ready for a political fight.
same here. i think she may get a lot done, even if she ends up being a one-term president.

people keep looking at the negatives, but she has a solid upside and I'm willing to bet she'll deliver.
 
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How anyone has legitimate faith in a blatantly deceitful liar like Hillary Clinton is beyond me. You've been duped.

God help our nation.

Find us an educated qualified candidates that is not a liar and we will vote for them instead. Otherwise, it's who we have.
 
What exactly are we even being duped about though??

Like what is she lying about that you know as a fact?

Then there's the whole part where you think her supporters aren't onboard with the president she'll be.
 
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What exactly are we even being duped about though??

Like what is she lying about that you know as a fact?

Then there's the whole part where you think her supporters aren't onboard with the president she'll be.

There are compilations of her lies and lies about her lies. I'm pretty sure they have been posted. Not eveything has to be a bold faced lie. Just ask yourself if you really believe this for one second.

HILLARY CLINTON: My message to every worker in Michigan and across America is this: I will stop any trade deal that kills jobs or holds down wages, including the Trans-Pacific Partnership. I oppose it now, I'll oppose it after the election, and I'll oppose it as president.

But the response is usually "well she is a politician and they lie. Or trump is the alternative." So there isnt much to talk about.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/statements/byruling/false/

Here is a big list and many would argue these fact checkers lean left.
 
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Trump being the alternative is literally a valid point. The shade y'all throw at her is ridiculous considering y'all are literally supporting someone 1000 times worse :lol

I don't get it
 
There are compilations of her lies and lies about her lies. I'm pretty sure they have been posted. Not eveything has to be a bold faced lie. Just ask yourself if you really believe this for one second.

HILLARY CLINTON: My message to every worker in Michigan and across America is this: I will stop any trade deal that kills jobs or holds down wages, including the Trans-Pacific Partnership. I oppose it now, I'll oppose it after the election, and I'll oppose it as president.

But the response is usually "well she is a politician and they lie. Or trump is the alternative." So there isnt much to talk about.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/statements/byruling/false/

Here is a big list and many would argue these fact checkers lean left.
Everyone knows Hillary lies though.
 
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Everyone knows Hillary lies though.

This we know what we're getting with her she's been in this for 20+ years. The thing is though you've got the majority of Drumpf's supporters convinced he's not lying about anything, telling it like it is, while also simultaneously "evolving" on stuff he previously stated. They refuse to acknowledge what he really is. Hillary has baggage no doubt, but nowhere near enough to make her a worse choice than Drumpf, and that's the bottom line.
 
Trump being the alternative is literally a valid point. The shade y'all throw at her is ridiculous considering y'all are literally supporting someone 1000 times worse :lol

I don't get it

I'm not supporting trump. He asked what do we know she is lying about for a fact.

The trump is the alternative mantra is valid as to why you vote for hillary over him. It's not a valid reaon that noone should say hillary is untrustworthy or say she has flaws.


There is crazy stuff happening in queens. An iman and an associate were shot dead. Broad day light back of the head. People don't know if hate crime or execution. Ozone park.
 
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Trillary still better than Trump tho.
How do you figure?

To me, it boils down to this:

Trump:
  • "He's an evil bigot who hates minorities!"  
  • I genuinely do not believe he is this evil, hateful, racist, bigoted monster that seemingly everyone (including the media) is portraying him as. When I think of wealthy, successful, powerful businessmen, I think of people who are too mentally preoccupied with many other, more important things than harboring and actively embracing racial hatred (like running multi-billion dollar enterprises). Think of the true racists you see on social media on a daily basis (e.g. white people who write "n-er" without hesitation, black people who write "white devil" without hesitation, etc.) -- you look at their profiles and you'll find that they're typically uneducated or under-educated, uncultured filth who have no lives and have nothing to lose and have nothing better to do than to spew ignorant hatred on the Internet. The kind of people who loathe others because they're miserable themselves. I see racism as being for low-impact, small-minded people. I don't think those descriptors apply to Donald Trump; it's beneath him to be truly racist. 
  • He's clearly not as much of a groomed politician / public speaker as Hillary Clinton, but I can at least respect the authenticity of him speaking freely (however "offensive" it may be to others -- not me, for the record) over Hillary's carefully calculated speeches that are inauthentic by definition and purposely crafted to appease the masses -- those aren't even her words, man. (Cue the Melania Trump jokes -- but she's not running for President, she's just a supermodel who married rich so I don't have high expectations from her to begin with.)
  • "But... but... he wants to ban all Muslims from entering the country!"
  • ISIS have repeatedly said that they're actively infiltrating refugee populations in an attempt to migrate to Western countries under the radar and to carry out attacks from within, once they've made it. Is it totally irrational to think we need to cease (or at least slow down) the flow of migrants from the terror zones until we can sufficiently improve our vetting process? I don't think so.
  • "He hates women!" 
  • Because he made a joke about a woman on her period? Because he called a woman a bimbo? Hardly the worst things you could to do / say to women. Have you ever done those things? I certainly have, and it's not because I hate women. 
  • "He wants to build a wall to keep Mexicans out!"
  • Look, I'm a first generation American born to legal Mexican immigrants and I have no problem with the idea of a wall. I'll believe it when I see it, but I don't have a moral issue with it. But forget me, I'm as American / "white-washed" as they come. How about my Mexican-born and raised father who immigrated here in the 80's? He doesn't mind it either. I asked him about the topic once. "Hey dad, you're Mexican, born and raised in Mexico and immigrated here a long time ago. How do you feel about the whole 'illegal immigration' thing?" He told me, "They need to go to the back of the line and do it the right way like I had to." Now, is he a Tío Tomás? No, he just respects and adheres to the law of the country he himself chose to immigrate to and expects everyone else (including his Mexican brethren) to do the same. Is that so crazy?
Hillary:

I can only imagine what's going on in her head: "This'll get the black people on my side!" To artificially embrace a culture that she has probably never lived or loved for the sake of projecting an image of "I understand you and your people"; to reduce the culture to rap songs and fad dances for the sake of "vote for me" is the true racism. You don't see this kind of fake *** reverse c-nery on Trump's side.

I've been watching election coverage quite intently for the past several months on both CNN & Fox News. I consider myself to be a fairly rational person. I can't get behind a smiling liar.
 
nah can't get down with what you said bro at all but do you. you letting a lot of bigoted crap he says slide 
 
 
nah can't get down with what you said bro at all but do you. you letting a lot of bigoted crap he says slide 
Although we disagree, I respect your opinion and appreciate your respect for me being able to have my own.

But now I'm curious, can you give me an example or two of the bigoted stuff that I'm missing? Like I said, I've watched hours of election coverage pretty much every day this year and not once have I heard anything that made me go, "Wow, this guy really is a racist piece of ****." It's mostly been, "Wow, people have no concept of nuance and take literally everything at face value."
 
What exactly are we even being duped about though??

Like what is she lying about that you know as a fact?

Then there's the whole part where you think her supporters aren't onboard with the president she'll be.

There are compilations of her lies and lies about her lies. I'm pretty sure they have been posted. Not eveything has to be a bold faced lie. Just ask yourself if you really believe this for one second.

HILLARY CLINTON: My message to every worker in Michigan and across America is this: I will stop any trade deal that kills jobs or holds down wages, including the Trans-Pacific Partnership. I oppose it now, I'll oppose it after the election, and I'll oppose it as president.

But the response is usually "well she is a politician and they lie. Or trump is the alternative." So there isnt much to talk about.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/statements/byruling/false/

Here is a big list and many would argue these fact checkers lean left.
I'm not saying she doesn't lie I'm saying exactly what am I being lied to about. How am I being duped?

You're assuming one thing and taking for granted the other.

Its like saying Obama lied about closing gitmo. Some supporters are gonna hit you with that ain't important to me or high on my list of priorities.

Give me something important that matters that she lied about that would be worth me deciding not to vote for her.
 
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Let the discussion flip to social and economic policy, and everyone runs away like roaches.

The only argument left at this point that is that maybe Hillary is lying. So she is not all that better than Trump.

-On economics she has him beat, on social policy she has him beat, Hillary is **** on foreign policy but somehow she has Trump beat because he is so ******* stupid.

The only defense left is "Welp maybe she is lying". Like for 25 years people have been trying to dig up dirt on this woman, and for 25 years all they got is smoke. You don't like her, find, but is not her fault that she has the most sense in this election, third party candidates included.

And I find it funny that the same people that dismiss the smoke around Trump and Russia, now what people to believe that their is this big conspiracy around Clinton Foundation, and the Clinton outchea ordering hits

White washing Trump's stupidity and bigotry isn't going to work either.
 
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Although we disagree, I respect your opinion and appreciate your respect for me being able to have my own.

But now I'm curious, can you give me an example or two of the bigoted stuff that I'm missing? Like I said, I've watched hours of election coverage pretty much every day this year and not once have I heard anything that made me go, "Wow, this guy really is a racist piece of ****." It's mostly been, "Wow, people have no concept of nuance and take literally everything at face value."


rickyrobot rickyrobot if you can't see why Trump is bigoted, and pushes and encourages bigotry, xenophobia and sexism...idk what to tell you. Your post about what you think of examples of racism, tells me everything I need to know about you on this topic. Racism isn't only stupid people on social media saying slurs...it's much more than just that.

Additionally, trump is stoking the flames of white nationalism...and much of his rhetoric is based in that. He's also a liar, cheater and just downright a POS.

The media has nothing to do with Trumps portrayal. He is the idiot that keeps exposing himself.
 
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