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That's an unlikely swap so I'll give him respect. Not sure if that's the right motor for the overall application though.
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That's an unlikely swap so I'll give him respect. Not sure if that's the right motor for the overall application though.
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Hmmm. I like it but I don't like it that much. Something about the hatch or area where the top folds down into. Hard to say, perhaps seeing how it folds out and looks could change my opinion.guess itll be at the NAIAS next weekend going to go check it out.
Sadness wife will probably want this though and I get the non coupe. I heard rumors of a performance version of the engine in the near future.
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NOT LIKING THE LOOK OF THAT NEW SUPRA
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Base Z4 has a manual transmission and oddly enough the Supra the doesn't. Toyota says they have something in the works but it may or may not see the light of day depending on overall sales.
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Because it is garbage, they tried to capitalize on the history and heritage Supra represents but then created an engine with BMW. Having had an 05 545, BMW maintenance is a F-ing joke. The styling is opinion based, so I won't discuss that. However the performance is average at best for a car in that price point from two companies that have a long history of putting out performance cars. I don't want to buy an estimated $60K car that is in the mid 300 horsepower, and then have to mod it to be respectable. The cockpit looks cheap from the various videos with the screen just stuck in the middle. Not impressed IMO Toyota dropped the ball again with a performance aimed car, first giving the FT86 over to Scion and now the Supra. This car easily should of been in the 450hp range from the factory.
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The 45 engine found in the 545 and 645 was one the worst engines that bmw ever produced. There is a reason why it was only produced for 2 years out of the usual 7 years life cycle of a bmw. You had arguably one of the worst bmws ever and your comparing it to that lol funny ish. With the Supra engine a jb4 and some relatively cheap mods you’ll be at 500hp with less than 5k with great realiability. Ask me how I know
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I loved the concept so much more than this finished product. The radiator fans you see from looking at it in the front. The "future" is here now cars need to really take that next step in terms of design.
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Was that the same engine in the 550? How about the 525? My coworker had a 06 550 and my sister had two 525's. Whether it was the worst engine ever does that chance the fact how much maintenance cost? Because when I dropped it off for maintenance they didn't care it was the "worst engine" they still charged me to fix it. BMW quality has gone down hill and isn't the silver standard as it once was, I say Lexus is the gold standard in quality.
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Quick post to appreciate one of if not my ultimate dream car as a child. I spent countless hours playing Gran Turismo just to look at this thing
The red one was fire, but the blue with white racing stripes had me experiencing things that only puberty later on would replicate.
I wasn't super excited about the refresh in the early 2000's but I'm so glad that they returned it to its Viper snake like shape that was so unique during childhood in 2013
I always loved the Viper more than the Corvette, but the Corvette was always a better all around car. But damn the Viper just had that "IT" factor. Plus you NEVER saw Vipers on the street, it was so rare (and still is)
I also never knew the Dodge - Lambo connection with the Viper.
"If there were royalty checks on bedroom posters, Tom Gale would be a ****ing billionaire"
The red one was fire, but the blue with white racing stripes had me experiencing things that only puberty later on would replicate.
I wasn't super excited about the refresh in the early 2000's but I'm so glad that they returned it to its Viper snake like shape that was so unique during childhood in 2013
I always loved the Viper more than the Corvette, but the Corvette was always a better all around car. But damn the Viper just had that "IT" factor. Plus you NEVER saw Vipers on the street, it was so rare (and still is)
I also never knew the Dodge - Lambo connection with the Viper.
"If there were royalty checks on bedroom posters, Tom Gale would be a ****ing billionaire"
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I wasn't a big domestic fan back in the day but I did like this and the Dodge Stealth. I remember playing a game on Dreamcast called Tokyo Extreme Racer some of the racers had supped up Vipers that if they got out in front of you, you could never catch.Quick post to appreciate one of if not my ultimate dream car as a child. I spent countless hours playing Gran Turismo just to look at this thing
The red one was fire, but the blue with white racing stripes had me experiencing things that only puberty later on would replicate.
I wasn't super excited about the refresh in the early 2000's but I'm so glad that they returned it to its Viper snake like shape that was so unique during childhood in 2013
I always loved the Viper more than the Corvette, but the Corvette was always a better all around car. But damn the Viper just had that "IT" factor. Plus you NEVER saw Vipers on the street, it was so rare (and still is)
I also never knew the Dodge - Lambo connection with the Viper.
"If there were royalty checks on bedroom posters, Tom Gale would be a ****ing billionaire"
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The whole German car maintenance cost thing is a myth. That only applies if you take your car to the dealer to get serviced if that’s the case then your doing it to yourself. If you know how and where to source parts from and know how to diagnose your own car you will have no issues owning one in terms of cost. And the quality is definitely still there again your comparing a model that is more than 15 years old to new car standards. Lexus?
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Are you making assumptions in every single one of your post, because you are wrong again. I stopped taking my car to the dealer, once the extended warranty expired. I have two reputable shops that I alternated taking my 545, sisters 525. I found one through my coworker who took his 550 and the other from a guy at the gym who had a 535.The whole German car maintenance cost thing is a myth. That only applies if you take your car to the dealer to get serviced if that’s the case then your doing it to yourself. If you know how and where to source parts from and know how to diagnose your own car you will have no issues owning one in terms of cost. And the quality is definitely still there again your comparing a model that is more than 15 years old to new car standards. Lexus?
I still take my Tundra to one of the places for minor issues. The German car maintenance is certainly not a myth, when the owner of the shop advised me against getting an X5 because they are maintenance nightmares. He owns the shop why persuade me from bringing him more business by buying the X5?
I have a 97 Lexus SC400 and I am comparing the maintenance issues to an 05 BMW. Even with 145K more miles I don't have even a fraction of the maintenance issues in my 545.
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I certainly understand it in both cases, however why not name them something else instead of trying to pull you back in with the nostalgia card. The market is always going to be small in those niche markets but you should know that going in. However why not double the duty for the new engine, possibly look at flipping it so it can run in NASCAR also. If possible then the R&D costs can be shared by two departments.
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Agree with you 100% on bringing back old monikers yet deviating too far from the original heritage. Not sure what FT86/BRZ take is like in the US but over here in Canada, the BRZ is way more popular. Didn't help that Toyota launched the car as a whack Scion which at little to no market presence over here. 
Price on this new Supra kinda high too at $60K+
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The whole German car maintenance cost thing is a myth. That only applies if you take your car to the dealer to get serviced if that’s the case then your doing it to yourself. If you know how and where to source parts from and know how to diagnose your own car you will have no issues owning one in terms of cost. And the quality is definitely still there again your comparing a model that is more than 15 years old to new car standards. Lexus?
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With all due respect my G, the cats leasing these vehicles when new ain't turning a damn wrench. The cats buying 'em second hand/off lease, etc... should in theory know how to turn a wrench due to the higher cost of ownership but let's be honest, < 5% of them know how too.I've owned Japanese, American and German and while I appreciate the mechanical and technical knowledge I gained due to the latter I appreciate the relatively lower cost of ownership of the former two.
With regards to the Lexus/BMW debate, those 15 year old Lexus' still better cars to own.
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I was all set to get the FT86 maybe a year or two before it was officially released. However as it got closer and I heard it was going to Scion, I was instantly out. I am in my 30's when I think of Scion I think of late teens early 20's who drive them. I believe here in the states the FT86 is selling well, but I guess not enough since it couldn't keep Scion afloat.
Price on this new Supra kinda high too at $60K+
I can only hope that one starts in the mid to high 40's as an entry level. However do you want a car to have a 20K price swing from entry to top end?
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Supra looks WACK.
A grown up version of the gt86 which is WACK
A grown up version of the gt86 which is WACK
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I loved the concept so much more than this finished product. The radiator fans you see from looking at it in the front. The "future" is here now cars need to really take that next step in terms of design.
AGREED. THE CONCEPT LOOKS MUCH BETTER THAN THE FINISHED PRODUCT IMO.
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Toyota ****ed up again. Their days of cool cars are over. Stick to hybrids and trucks
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I guess I’m the only one that actually really likes the new Supra. I can’t wait to test drive one.
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nah i think it looks good too
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Quick post to appreciate one of if not my ultimate dream car as a child. I spent countless hours playing Gran Turismo just to look at this thing
The red one was fire, but the blue with white racing stripes had me experiencing things that only puberty later on would replicate.
I wasn't super excited about the refresh in the early 2000's but I'm so glad that they returned it to its Viper snake like shape that was so unique during childhood in 2013
I always loved the Viper more than the Corvette, but the Corvette was always a better all around car. But damn the Viper just had that "IT" factor. Plus you NEVER saw Vipers on the street, it was so rare (and still is)
I also never knew the Dodge - Lambo connection with the Viper.
"If there were royalty checks on bedroom posters, Tom Gale would be a ****ing billionaire"
I like the newest Vipers. Better than Vettes. And the ACR is a ****ing monster. Craziest road legal car I've ever been in
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Brah Viper are a step ahead of the vette.
Need to put myself in the position for an ACR.
The rear 335 tires and exhast just make me erect
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I've been a 911 guy since I can remember, but lord when I saw my first Viper in about 5th grade... my mind was blown.
Took the 997 in today for a service at 40k miles. They had some ill stuff that they were working on. Tons of track cars.
Took the 997 in today for a service at 40k miles. They had some ill stuff that they were working on. Tons of track cars.
