Rashard Lewis is the 2nd highest paid player in the NBA

Originally Posted by Big J 33

Originally Posted by MJsaver

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 Youve got a point, he went ghost in 09.

But still , compared with some other names on that list its funny to single him out.
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If by "ghost in 09" you meant last year's playoffs, then that's not quite true. 19 points, on 45% FG and 39% from 3, and 6.5 rebounds considering he's not a strong rebounder, he was the main reason they made it to the Finals, Boston couldn't cover him without KG on the floor.

It's hardly the worst contract in sports, give me a break.  The Magic overpaid obviously and it's their fault since no one else was going to offer him a max, but at least Rashard has been a key part of making them a contending team.  The Magic had been over the cap for years and finally was able to offer a max deal to someone, and he was the best available at the time. 
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Relax dog, if you read my previous post im defending Rashard.

I guess i shouldve specified the finals because thats what i meant.

He was a key to them reaching the finals, but he basically disappeared once they got there. 
  
 
Originally Posted by Big J 33

Originally Posted by MJsaver

^^^
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 Youve got a point, he went ghost in 09.

But still , compared with some other names on that list its funny to single him out.
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If by "ghost in 09" you meant last year's playoffs, then that's not quite true. 19 points, on 45% FG and 39% from 3, and 6.5 rebounds considering he's not a strong rebounder, he was the main reason they made it to the Finals, Boston couldn't cover him without KG on the floor.

It's hardly the worst contract in sports, give me a break.  The Magic overpaid obviously and it's their fault since no one else was going to offer him a max, but at least Rashard has been a key part of making them a contending team.  The Magic had been over the cap for years and finally was able to offer a max deal to someone, and he was the best available at the time. 
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Relax dog, if you read my previous post im defending Rashard.

I guess i shouldve specified the finals because thats what i meant.

He was a key to them reaching the finals, but he basically disappeared once they got there. 
  
 
That list was way worse about two years ago when you had trash like Steve Francis and Marbury sitting at home making 20+ a year.
 
That list was way worse about two years ago when you had trash like Steve Francis and Marbury sitting at home making 20+ a year.
 
Originally Posted by Fear The Ibis

This list is irrelevant right now with so many FA's still unsigned.
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they wont be at the top of the list until the end of the contract. They will make about 16.1ish the first year. no one is getting over 20 million the first year
 
Originally Posted by Fear The Ibis

This list is irrelevant right now with so many FA's still unsigned.
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they wont be at the top of the list until the end of the contract. They will make about 16.1ish the first year. no one is getting over 20 million the first year
 
Yeah it's pretty crazy that Joe Johnson is negotiating a contract that will resemble anything LeBron will be signing for. IMO every free agent class should be valued top to bottom every year with a pay scale appropriate for the class. I mean c'mon Joe's max should look completely different from LeBrons
 
Yeah it's pretty crazy that Joe Johnson is negotiating a contract that will resemble anything LeBron will be signing for. IMO every free agent class should be valued top to bottom every year with a pay scale appropriate for the class. I mean c'mon Joe's max should look completely different from LeBrons
 
Originally Posted by JapanAir21

That list was way worse about two years ago when you had trash like Steve Francis and Marbury sitting at home making 20+ a year.
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Add Webber and Finley to that list as well
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Originally Posted by JapanAir21

That list was way worse about two years ago when you had trash like Steve Francis and Marbury sitting at home making 20+ a year.
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Add Webber and Finley to that list as well
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Originally Posted by 0cks

Yeah it's pretty crazy that Joe Johnson is negotiating a contract that will resemble anything LeBron will be signing for. IMO every free agent class should be valued top to bottom every year with a pay scale appropriate for the class. I mean c'mon Joe's max should look completely different from LeBrons
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Let the max be what it is..But it just shows how dumb some GMs are to wave that much money in a player's face when he doesn't deserve it.
 
Originally Posted by 0cks

Yeah it's pretty crazy that Joe Johnson is negotiating a contract that will resemble anything LeBron will be signing for. IMO every free agent class should be valued top to bottom every year with a pay scale appropriate for the class. I mean c'mon Joe's max should look completely different from LeBrons
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Let the max be what it is..But it just shows how dumb some GMs are to wave that much money in a player's face when he doesn't deserve it.
 
Originally Posted by damnitzvin

Originally Posted by Mamba MVP


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Is there a worse contract in the history of sports outside of Jamarcus Russell

Top NBA Salaries
1. Kobe Bryant LA Lakers $24,806,250
2. Rashard Lewis Orlando $20,514,000
3. Kevin Garnett Boston $18,800,000
4. Tim Duncan San Antonio $18,700,000
5. Michael Redd Milwaukee $18,300,000
6. Pau Gasol LA Lakers $17,822,187
7. Andrei Kirilenko Utah $17,822,187
8. Yao Ming Houston $17,686,100
9. Gilbert Arenas Washington $17,730,694
10. Vince Carter Orlando $17,300,000
11. Zach Randolph Memphis $17,333,333
12. Carmelo Anthony Denver $17,149,243
13. Dwight Howard Orlando $16,509,600
14. Kenyon Martin Denver $15,959,099
15. Elton Brand Philadelphia $15,959,099
16. Predrag Stojakovic New Orleans $15,336,000
17. Chris Paul New Orleans $14,940,152
18. Deron Williams Utah $14,940,152
19. Jason Richardson Phoenix $14,444,444
20. Andrew Bynum LA Lakers $13,842,332
21. Brandon Roy Portland $13,520,500
22. Tony Parker San Antonio $13,500,000
23. Antawn Jamison Cleveland $13,358,905
24. Chauncey Billups Denver $13,150,000
25. Erick Dampier Dallas $13,075,000
26. Baron Davis LA Clippers $13,050,000
27. Al Jefferson Minnesota $13,000,000
28. Tyson Chandler Charlotte $12,650,000
29. Richard Hamilton Detroit $12,650,000
30. Andre Iguodala Philadelphia $12,345,250
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how they come up with these numbers?
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about to add Joe Johnson to the list


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It's never a good sign when, a full week before a player is set to put pen to paper to ink his most recent contract, that a good portion of the NBA community regards that contract as the worst it has ever seen.

Not the worst trade, nor the worst draft selection. And we're not talking about considering Joe Johnson's(notes) new contract with the Atlanta Hawks (as first reported by Adrian Wojnarowski) as the worst contract we've ever seen a few years into the deal, or a few years after it expires in retrospect.

We're feeling this way, right now. On July 1, seven days before he even gets to sign the deal. Worst contract, ever.

It's that bad. Six years, and $119 million dollars for a player regarded as a second option at best on a great team. At best. Johnson will be 29 years of age to start this contract, 35 to end it, so Atlanta will get his one peak season (unless last year's run of over 21 points and a combined 9.5 rebounds/assists was the best we've seen), and then the downfall.

At about $20 million a year.
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Bear in mind that Johnson achieved those stats by absolutely dominating the ball for the Hawks. Just owning it, for large stretches, forcing either a potential score or a potential assist to be added to his ledger just about every other time down court. All while playing huge minutes, 38 per game in fact; which was actually the lowest mark we've seen from Johnson since his second year in the league.

It's just an astonishing deal, on so many levels. A good part of me thinks that — because his stats are so inflated by his ball dominance and big minutes — that Johnson will be worth about half of his yearly salary next year (next year!), so imagine how far he'll taper off by 2016? Johnson isn't the most athletic player we've seen, he isn't tricky enough with the ball to get to the line much (a shocking 3.5 free-throw attempts per game, criminal for someone who has the ball so much, and for so long), and this isn't someone who will age well.

On top of that, didn't we watch him age quite considerably in the playoffs last season? Johnson averaged 11.8 points per game in the second round, shooting a terrifying 29.5 percent along the way. He seemed nonplussed as ever as his Hawks fell out of the second round again, and for the second time in five years, he's chosen big offseason money over a chance at a championship.

The Hawks? They're the big boys, here. They're supposed to be smarter than this, and in spite of all the talk about how this team had no choice but to stick with the status quo and see what happened? Bollocks.

This man could be nearly half of your salary cap in a few years. We have no idea how the new collective bargaining agreement will shake out, but even under the ridiculous payroll runs of the last six or seven years, handing nearly $120 million to a 29-year-old who has yet to do anything more meaningful than dribble a lot and shoot a lot and look real tired in January? It boggles the mind.

Yes, you're backed into a corner, and you can't afford to let your best offensive player go without any proper sign-and-trade compensation. I understand that, but signing above what you originally hoped to pay only goes so far. There has to be a cutoff price, at some point, and paying Joe Johnson around $20 million in 2015-16 has to be that point. Hell, paying Joe Johnson $20 million in 2011-12 has to be that point.

This is just an absurd contract that, even if the Hawks ownership is banking on selling the team midway through Johnson's deal as has been rumored, cannot be justified or argued-for in any meaningful way.

There's just no way around it. Joe is a nice player who might get to shoot himself into yet another All-Star berth next season. If he's lucky, the year after that, even. Give it to him. Let the Hawks roll to the second round again, earning the ownership a few more gate receipts as they take yet another first-round series to seven games.
 
Originally Posted by damnitzvin

Originally Posted by Mamba MVP


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Is there a worse contract in the history of sports outside of Jamarcus Russell

Top NBA Salaries
1. Kobe Bryant LA Lakers $24,806,250
2. Rashard Lewis Orlando $20,514,000
3. Kevin Garnett Boston $18,800,000
4. Tim Duncan San Antonio $18,700,000
5. Michael Redd Milwaukee $18,300,000
6. Pau Gasol LA Lakers $17,822,187
7. Andrei Kirilenko Utah $17,822,187
8. Yao Ming Houston $17,686,100
9. Gilbert Arenas Washington $17,730,694
10. Vince Carter Orlando $17,300,000
11. Zach Randolph Memphis $17,333,333
12. Carmelo Anthony Denver $17,149,243
13. Dwight Howard Orlando $16,509,600
14. Kenyon Martin Denver $15,959,099
15. Elton Brand Philadelphia $15,959,099
16. Predrag Stojakovic New Orleans $15,336,000
17. Chris Paul New Orleans $14,940,152
18. Deron Williams Utah $14,940,152
19. Jason Richardson Phoenix $14,444,444
20. Andrew Bynum LA Lakers $13,842,332
21. Brandon Roy Portland $13,520,500
22. Tony Parker San Antonio $13,500,000
23. Antawn Jamison Cleveland $13,358,905
24. Chauncey Billups Denver $13,150,000
25. Erick Dampier Dallas $13,075,000
26. Baron Davis LA Clippers $13,050,000
27. Al Jefferson Minnesota $13,000,000
28. Tyson Chandler Charlotte $12,650,000
29. Richard Hamilton Detroit $12,650,000
30. Andre Iguodala Philadelphia $12,345,250
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how they come up with these numbers?
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about to add Joe Johnson to the list


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It's never a good sign when, a full week before a player is set to put pen to paper to ink his most recent contract, that a good portion of the NBA community regards that contract as the worst it has ever seen.

Not the worst trade, nor the worst draft selection. And we're not talking about considering Joe Johnson's(notes) new contract with the Atlanta Hawks (as first reported by Adrian Wojnarowski) as the worst contract we've ever seen a few years into the deal, or a few years after it expires in retrospect.

We're feeling this way, right now. On July 1, seven days before he even gets to sign the deal. Worst contract, ever.

It's that bad. Six years, and $119 million dollars for a player regarded as a second option at best on a great team. At best. Johnson will be 29 years of age to start this contract, 35 to end it, so Atlanta will get his one peak season (unless last year's run of over 21 points and a combined 9.5 rebounds/assists was the best we've seen), and then the downfall.

At about $20 million a year.
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Bear in mind that Johnson achieved those stats by absolutely dominating the ball for the Hawks. Just owning it, for large stretches, forcing either a potential score or a potential assist to be added to his ledger just about every other time down court. All while playing huge minutes, 38 per game in fact; which was actually the lowest mark we've seen from Johnson since his second year in the league.

It's just an astonishing deal, on so many levels. A good part of me thinks that — because his stats are so inflated by his ball dominance and big minutes — that Johnson will be worth about half of his yearly salary next year (next year!), so imagine how far he'll taper off by 2016? Johnson isn't the most athletic player we've seen, he isn't tricky enough with the ball to get to the line much (a shocking 3.5 free-throw attempts per game, criminal for someone who has the ball so much, and for so long), and this isn't someone who will age well.

On top of that, didn't we watch him age quite considerably in the playoffs last season? Johnson averaged 11.8 points per game in the second round, shooting a terrifying 29.5 percent along the way. He seemed nonplussed as ever as his Hawks fell out of the second round again, and for the second time in five years, he's chosen big offseason money over a chance at a championship.

The Hawks? They're the big boys, here. They're supposed to be smarter than this, and in spite of all the talk about how this team had no choice but to stick with the status quo and see what happened? Bollocks.

This man could be nearly half of your salary cap in a few years. We have no idea how the new collective bargaining agreement will shake out, but even under the ridiculous payroll runs of the last six or seven years, handing nearly $120 million to a 29-year-old who has yet to do anything more meaningful than dribble a lot and shoot a lot and look real tired in January? It boggles the mind.

Yes, you're backed into a corner, and you can't afford to let your best offensive player go without any proper sign-and-trade compensation. I understand that, but signing above what you originally hoped to pay only goes so far. There has to be a cutoff price, at some point, and paying Joe Johnson around $20 million in 2015-16 has to be that point. Hell, paying Joe Johnson $20 million in 2011-12 has to be that point.

This is just an absurd contract that, even if the Hawks ownership is banking on selling the team midway through Johnson's deal as has been rumored, cannot be justified or argued-for in any meaningful way.

There's just no way around it. Joe is a nice player who might get to shoot himself into yet another All-Star berth next season. If he's lucky, the year after that, even. Give it to him. Let the Hawks roll to the second round again, earning the ownership a few more gate receipts as they take yet another first-round series to seven games.
 
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