RIP New York Hip-Hop? (Need Some Feedback)

[HEATHEN]

kendrick has that big label budget for the right producers. before that he just had a great ear and whatever TDE afforded him.

but as it relates to West coast production and sounding modern, they just took old West Coast formula and added trap drums, something that harry fraud kinda does for NY, but people have such a firm idea of NY rap being boom bap that they hear rolling hi hats and 808s and they get rhe unfair criticism of NY copying Atlanta which everyone is guilty of if the only prerequisite is melody, 808s and hi hats.

Right, that's a fair point. I do think NY artists have that added hurdle with the unfair criticism they receive anytime they rap over something that sounds remotely nonnative.

 

[HEATHEN]

I agree with this.

I was finna say 1999 but that brings up the point that NY suffers from the dynamic of wanting to relive its past and then ****ting on people who actually achieve that. Their fans arent gonna know what they want until they see it.

I **** with Joey and I honestly thought he had next. I don't really understand what happened there.

He's only 23 though so, who knows.

 

[ZOMBAVELI THE DON]

 

[tay1]

Joey is doing himself a disservice by dropping a project with xxx. I believe he gets in his own way.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Troy a clown. He the type that wants to get into BS to brag about it. Him and Tax the same dude.

@ the unsafe though shirt

 

[Magic33]

Okay.


I guess Cardi B, 69, and A Boogie is what passes for Hip-Hop nowadays. That or Fab struggle bars.

If Fab has struggle bars, you don't listen to much rap these days

Like I said, QUALITY boom bap.

The cats who are trying to do it now aren't good at it. Some used to be, and have lost it.

Strongly disagree

 

[HEATHEN]

If Fab has struggle bars, you don't listen to much rap these days

Bro his punchlines have been forever corny and predictable. I’m not saying I don’t like or listen to Fab but he’s often unspectacular and unimpressive.

You’re entitled to your own opinion though. I’m just not easily impressed I guess.

 

[tay1]

I think you're overexagerrating. You making it sound like he big sean

 

[6pac]

“they” often do say big sean is this generations fab

if sean had more street bars i dont really see the difference

 

[tay1]

Fab is and will always be nicer than big Sean. Street bars or not

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Being this generations Fab doesn't mean they're equal. Just they got similar styles. Fab is a much better rapper than Sean.

 

[6pac]

ehhh again I don’t see the difference I just think since Fab a legend who has been doing it since anyone discussing this was at least in elem/middle/high school, it would be blasphemous to insinuate theyre equal or sean is better

especially I Decided and beyond Sean. He’s mastered that style and sad to say people dont really care about it anymore.

 

[kevlar]

Sometimes I wonder if Fab actually got worse or if I just out grew that style

This came on yesterday and reminded me that son was one of my favs at the time

 

[a blinkin]

“And y’all got jewels but I doubt it’s the same shine
Mine look like the sun and moon’s out at the same time”

Fab bodied fall back

 

[Maximus Meridius]

If you can't see the difference between Fab and Big Sean I don't know what to tell you.





Even today, right now he's better than Sean. Delivery, bars, whatever.

 

[tay1]

I was just about to post that intro. Dudes are trippin.

 

[kevlar]

More Street Dreams Pt 2

Triangle Offense

 

[a blinkin]

More Street Dreams 2

BK Style was on repeat for a minute.

 

[definition of dopeness]

Clue had a squad man, still can’t get over how he fumbled that.

 

[numbah1grimey]

I mean *****s need club music. Its room for everyone to develop also. YG went from toot it and boot it to FDT and his first two studio albums which were great.

I think the beauty of what NY has going on right now is that theres Dave East and Don Q, Casanova and 69 and **** like Flatbush Zombies and Joey.

Btw Joey probably has the most potential to make “that” album right now. Has the fanbase, is he on a label (?), and he’s starting to experiment more sonically while still having bars.

You sound like you should get in the field and create what youre looking for via producing, rapping yourself or managing people.

So, guys weren’t making “club” music in the 90s and 2000s? I’m not understanding. What’s the difference between modern club music, and past club music?

 

[6pac]

So, guys weren’t making “club” music in the 90s and 2000s? I’m not understanding. What’s the difference between modern club music, and past club music?

im not understanding what youre trying to say here?

is that a rhetorical question to try and compare tekashi to NY club hits from the past? He’s very much in the lane of MOP, Onyx and even certain DMX club records. People compare him to Juvenile all the time.

What are you getting at here

 

[HEATHEN]

“they” often do say big sean is this generations fab

if sean had more street bars i dont really see the difference

Big Sean is even worse.

 

[wavycrocket]

Paul Cain renegade verse >>>>

Also, disrespectful to compare Big Sean to Fab . Fab made can you hear me and Breathe. BREATHE my *****!

 

[tay1]

Breathe was easily my favorite song when I first heard it and I was probably 10. Still top 20 maybe 15 in my favorite songs

 

[kickvicisous]

Big Sean would be Fabolous if Fabolous couldn't rap



Damn Clue, you had something special

Edit: How could I forget