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He's ability to defend the rim is pretty exciting to watch.
School me on John Wall
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Passing and decision making is still a problem. not a huge problem, but its not that Paul/Williams level passing.
he has blinding quickness.
but this he will take over the league nonsense, needs to be calmed down.
he is still 1 year older than your average freshman. and should have logically have gone last year if he was in his age group.
would he have been number one over blake? naw.
over thabeet. %%%@ yeah.
but he is playing with an insane amount of talent, and people need to realize he isnt doing this all by his damn lonesome like durant or beastly did during their freshman year.
is he insanely talented, damn straight, but he is not as good as advertised.
he has blinding quickness.
but this he will take over the league nonsense, needs to be calmed down.
he is still 1 year older than your average freshman. and should have logically have gone last year if he was in his age group.
would he have been number one over blake? naw.
over thabeet. %%%@ yeah.
but he is playing with an insane amount of talent, and people need to realize he isnt doing this all by his damn lonesome like durant or beastly did during their freshman year.
is he insanely talented, damn straight, but he is not as good as advertised.
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That's gonna be Chris Paul's crown for a long time coming...
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I think it's all about the learning curve...
And it doesn't help Rose's development that there aren't any other really legitimate scorers in Chicago with him...
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Rose was a 19 year old freshman as well...and it's stupid to even compare what he's doing to what KD and Beasley did...
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Wall = Rose + agressiveness/nuts - an inch on the vert
- Apr 4, 2009
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so CP3,Dwilliams,Drose and Rondo will retire from the NBA by then?
im agree with most of what allen said and add i think he will be more of a scoring point guard in the NBA then been a TRUE PG
In 5 years,
CP3 will be 30
Deron will be 31
And I think he will be better than both D. Rose and Rondo by then. Wall is more of a true point than Pooh. And I have never really been truly wowed/excited by Pooh's game. Hell, I think he'll be better than both those guys after 2-3 years in the L, maybe even earlier. I feel like I don't even need to speak on Rondo...
CP3 is my guy, but I think JW could be THAT good. CP3 will be the main man he would have to dethrone in 5 years.
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oooh...30 and 31...big deal. come on man. Nash, Kidd, Stockton...what were these guys doing when they were that age? maybe they lose a step or whatnot, but decision making, poise, leadership...that stuff just gets better.
- Feb 18, 2008
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Originally Posted by gangsta207therevolution
If they cant work together, you would trade Paul, provided Wall is a stud.Originally Posted by Julian Wright
Am I crazy or isnt No having financial problems. Until they can get the Peja , and Mo Pete contracts off the books the best bet is to trade Paul and get rid of one of those contracts.
Your telling me a team with no cap space, doesnt say you know what we will take Peja and Paul, give you 2 first rounders in 2011 and 2013 unprotected and give you a piece you need to win.
Im sorry but Wall, West, and a legit number 2 can win with that squad.
- Apr 4, 2009
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I agree. I may have jumped the gun a tad with my initial statement. Is "in 6-7 years" better?
It all has to do with his worth ethic. How good does he actually want to be? He has the best combination of frame/God given athletic ability/confidence/killer instinct I've ever seen for a PG his age.
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Originally Posted by yungchris504
Originally Posted by gangsta207therevolution
If they cant work together, you would trade Paul, provided Wall is a stud.Originally Posted by Julian Wright
Am I crazy or isnt No having financial problems. Until they can get the Peja , and Mo Pete contracts off the books the best bet is to trade Paul and get rid of one of those contracts.
Your telling me a team with no cap space, doesnt say you know what we will take Peja and Paul, give you 2 first rounders in 2011 and 2013 unprotected and give you a piece you need to win.
Im sorry but Wall, West, and a legit number 2 can win with that squad.
whatever. Your prob right. They arent getting Wall anyway.
They are hoping for a guy like Wesley Johnson.....
I hope a team does for Wall what the Bulls have not done for Rose... RUN
Thats his strength.
As for Rose. He could have used another year at Memphis. And thats nothing against him going #1, nothing against what he's doing now. But I would love to see him be a better passer.
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Depending on where he goes, he might not even be a true PG in the League
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he's like derrick rose if derrick rose actually realized that there's nobody on the court that can guard him.
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I like him more than Rose.
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Originally Posted by gangsta207therevolution
Originally Posted by yungchris504
Originally Posted by gangsta207therevolution
If they cant work together, you would trade Paul, provided Wall is a stud.Originally Posted by Julian Wright
Am I crazy or isnt No having financial problems. Until they can get the Peja , and Mo Pete contracts off the books the best bet is to trade Paul and get rid of one of those contracts.
Your telling me a team with no cap space, doesnt say you know what we will take Peja and Paul, give you 2 first rounders in 2011 and 2013 unprotected and give you a piece you need to win.
Im sorry but Wall, West, and a legit number 2 can win with that squad.
whatever. Your prob right. They arent getting Wall anyway.
They are hoping for a guy like Wesley Johnson.....
I hope a team does for Wall what the Bulls have not done for Rose... RUN
Thats his strength.
As for Rose. He could have used another year at Memphis. And thats nothing against him going #1, nothing against what he's doing now. But I would love to see him be a better passer.
The reason why we are stone facing you is because you probably haven't been keeping up with the Hornets. The team has been playing a whole lot better and they are under the cap for this year as well. I think if they ended up with the #1 pick they probably package it with a posey contract or DWest and try to get some talent ala Wizards.
- Nov 11, 2004
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how you gonna compare derricks #s to walls #s ..he had CDR , Dorsey, etc..
but with that said..derrick is actually a pass first pg as opposed to John(correct me if im wrong about john)...and it will depend on what team drafts him to figure out if they wanna try to make him a pass first or a monte ellis type.
i dont like the kid for some reason but he is damn good...i honestly believe its all relative..how hard he pushes himself and works on his skills during his rook yr..im not even going to pay attention to his collegiate numbers cuz he has some weapons on his team and lets be honest..college ball is a lil down this yr
but with that said..derrick is actually a pass first pg as opposed to John(correct me if im wrong about john)...and it will depend on what team drafts him to figure out if they wanna try to make him a pass first or a monte ellis type.
i dont like the kid for some reason but he is damn good...i honestly believe its all relative..how hard he pushes himself and works on his skills during his rook yr..im not even going to pay attention to his collegiate numbers cuz he has some weapons on his team and lets be honest..college ball is a lil down this yr
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i think some may need to find dvd's of roses stretch run at memphis
wall has his chance coming up, but as of now im not sure who was better, probably wall but its not by much.
the thing he has going for him that's kinda overlooked is he looks like he's pushin 6'5
wall has his chance coming up, but as of now im not sure who was better, probably wall but its not by much.
the thing he has going for him that's kinda overlooked is he looks like he's pushin 6'5
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Originally Posted by yungchris504
Originally Posted by gangsta207therevolution
Originally Posted by yungchris504
Originally Posted by gangsta207therevolution
If they cant work together, you would trade Paul, provided Wall is a stud.Originally Posted by Julian Wright
Am I crazy or isnt No having financial problems. Until they can get the Peja , and Mo Pete contracts off the books the best bet is to trade Paul and get rid of one of those contracts.
Your telling me a team with no cap space, doesnt say you know what we will take Peja and Paul, give you 2 first rounders in 2011 and 2013 unprotected and give you a piece you need to win.
Im sorry but Wall, West, and a legit number 2 can win with that squad.
whatever. Your prob right. They arent getting Wall anyway.
They are hoping for a guy like Wesley Johnson.....
I hope a team does for Wall what the Bulls have not done for Rose... RUN
Thats his strength.
As for Rose. He could have used another year at Memphis. And thats nothing against him going #1, nothing against what he's doing now. But I would love to see him be a better passer.
The reason why we are stone facing you is because you probably haven't been keeping up with the Hornets. The team has been playing a whole lot better and they are under the cap for this year as well. I think if they ended up with the #1 pick they probably package it with a posey contract or DWest and try to get some talent ala Wizards.
If the Hornets get the number 1 pick they will for sure keep it and draft Wall. Same will happen if the Jazz get it (via the knicks) and if the Bulls somehow miss the playoffs and get the chance at a number pick, they will draft Wall as well.
The consensus among the general managers are that Wall is too good a prospect to pass up, even if you already have an all star caliber guard.
Every general manager will draft Wall and worry about what happens later.
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u seriously think the Bulls would draft John wall ?
last thing we need is a undersized shooting guard...but i cant say the idea of rose and wall backcourt would be nuts..let me stop we aint got a chance in hell of getting him
last thing we need is a undersized shooting guard...but i cant say the idea of rose and wall backcourt would be nuts..let me stop we aint got a chance in hell of getting him
im not you
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Just playing Devils Advocate here...
One could counter CDR and Dorsey (who didn't score a single point unless he was spoon fed under the rim or on a putback) with Wall playing with like 4 other 5 star recruits on the team. Patterson and Cousins are certainly better than ANYONE Memphis had in their frontcourt.
Calipari himself stated that Wall is a little further along than Rose was at the same stages. Maybe that's just pumping his high profile player up...maybe it's an honest observation. Coming from Calipari I'm not sure. I don't know what you've seen from both of them that suggests Rose is a pass first and Wall isn't. From my personal observation, Wall's court vision seems to be a step further than Rose's. Rose makes the right passes which is what you want from your PG...but Wall seems to have that "how did he see that" factor with his passes. Someone in here mentioned Jason Kidd at Cal and I see the similarities.
As for it CBB being down...it might be. But UK is certainly seeing stiffer comp than Memphis was seeing night in/night out.
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Better than Rose was in college.
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I think any nba team would draft Wall no matter what the situation is. Yea, I think the Bulls would too. But the way the Bulls are playing they wouldn't be in the lottery anyway. *knock on wood*
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This. He has amazing size for an true PG, if he can manage to add on wieght & strength while keeping his speed & quickness... OMG.
Thats Pooh's edge, while John is taller and can see over opposing guards, Pooh is that he's built to actually take contact aiding him in his drives.
But John is THEEEEE goods, his off hand is amazing its as good as Dorfs was and thats saying something
