Seriously, though. What is the point of the existence of HBCU's today?

[fromthatown]

Originally Posted by blazinRook


Black people did not know how to properly conduct themselves in society

because they were previously never given the chance, and HBCU's changed that.

What do you mean by that? That phrase doesn't fly with me right there. And you can insert any race in for the black people part, and it wouldn't be right. That's what the French said about my people. It's that " they don't know how conduct themselves, so we're here to help them." mentality.

 

[bluedeniro]

i actually liked my experience at >JACKSON STATE UNIVERISITY< and wouldn't trade it for nothing. I eventually transferred to a state school in Illinois for my Sophomore year,but i learned some things about black people, that so many (BLK)people fail to realize, and that's that we dont need to be surrounded by each other 24/7 every weel/month/year of our lives. I went to a low/middle income (urban) schools from pre,K-12th grade. The moment i realized was when, i seen kids in College that never went to class, sold weed and just chilled around the campus till late night, just hanging. In my mind i was like you M_ers paid to go to school to do some S_ you could of did for free at home

. HBCU's are very important because they giving a big helping hand. If you want to graduate and your unsure about how your gonna manage college work, i would go to a HBCU, no matter your Race

 

[Betonblck]

Originally Posted by bluedeniro

i actually liked my experience at >JACKSON STATE UNIVERISITY< and wouldn't trade it for nothing. I eventually transferred to a state school in Illinois for my Sophomore year,but i learned some things about black people, that so many (BLK)people fail to realize, and that's that we dont need to be surrounded by each other 24/7 every weel/month/year of our lives. I went to a low/middle income (urban) schools from pre,K-12th grade. The moment i realized was when, i seen kids in College that never went to class, sold weed and just chilled around the campus till late night, just hanging. In my mind i was like you M_ers paid to go to school to do some S_ you could of did for free at home

. HBCU's are very important because they giving a big helping hand. If you want to graduate and your unsure about how your gonna manage college work, i would go to a HBCU, no matter your Race

Because only Black people smoke weed right.  And only Black people hang out, party and don't go to class.

You sound like a loser.

 

[undermedicated]

Originally Posted by enlightenedespot

Originally Posted by UnderMedicated



Their called HBCU's because their the first black college's in the history of America and probably the world.

Tombuctoo.

Thais why i said probably, i don't like searching info on Google to make myself sound smarter.

and tombuctoo??? no Pennsylvania.

 

[sofreakinwavy]

all colleges were HWCU at first

 

[spsfinest212]

this thread is blah.

 

[supreme math]

Originally Posted by cguy610

Originally Posted by bluedeniro

i actually liked my experience at >JACKSON STATE UNIVERISITY< and wouldn't trade it for nothing. I eventually transferred to a state school in Illinois for my Sophomore year,but i learned some things about black people, that so many (BLK)people fail to realize, and that's that we dont need to be surrounded by each other 24/7 every weel/month/year of our lives. I went to a low/middle income (urban) schools from pre,K-12th grade. The moment i realized was when, i seen kids in College that never went to class, sold weed and just chilled around the campus till late night, just hanging. In my mind i was like you M_ers paid to go to school to do some S_ you could of did for free at home

. HBCU's are very important because they giving a big helping hand. If you want to graduate and your unsure about how your gonna manage college work, i would go to a HBCU, no matter your Race

Because only Black people smoke weed right.  And only Black people hang out, party and don't go to class.

You sound like a loser.

 

[superantigen]

Originally Posted by LESfamilia

Somebody is clearly having an identity crisis...

A big time Identity crisis if you asked me...

Mayor, maybe this will help you figure out who you are...

Based on what you've stated in this thread, I'd say that you're somewhere between Pre-Stage 1 (My addition) and Stage 1 (Conformity).

I could be wrong though...

[h2] Minority Identity Development[/h2][h3] Before Stage 1 - my addition[/h3] Description: To me, there is lots of information a child learns before they identify race or ethnicity as a far reaching concept that organizes that information.
Examples: What are familiar and weird names, what is normal and weird food, perhaps visits to different parts of town,
when Mom and Dad are tense.
"They called me black at school.  I'm not black, I'm brown."
[h3] Stage 1: Conformity[/h3] Description: Preference for the values and norms of the dominant culture
Strong desire to assimilate into the dominate culture
Negative self-deprecating attitudes toward themselves and their racial group
Attitudes toward the dominant group are positive
Denial
Examples: For a long time it seemed as if I didn't remember my background, and I guess in some ways I didn't. I was never taught to be proud of my African heritage. It's like we talked about in class, I went through a very long stage of identifying with my oppressors. Wanting to be like, live like, and be accepted by them. Even to the point of hating my own race and myself for being a part of it. Now I am ashamed that I ever was ashamed.
[h3] Stage 2: Dissonance[/h3] Description: Individual begins to question pro-White attitude and behaviors
Individuals alternate between self- and group-appreciation and deprecating attitudes and behaviors
Confusion
Examples: I feel that because of this class, I have become much more aware of racism that exists around. Because of my awareness of racism, I am now bothered by acts and behaviors that might not have bothered me in the past. Before when racial comments were said around me I would somehow ignore it and pretend that nothing was said. By ignoring comments such as these, I was protecting myself. It became sort of a defense mechanism. I never realized I did this, until I was confronted with stories that were found in our reading, by other people of color, who also ignored comments that bothered them. I n realizing that there is racism out in the world and that there are comments concerning race that are directed towards me, I feel as if I have reached the first step. I also think I have reached the second step, because I am now bothered and irritated by such comments. I no longer ignore them, but now confront them.
[h3] Stage 3: Resistance and Immersion[/h3] Description: Individuals embrace their own racial/ethnic group completely
Blind endorsement of one's gorup and all the values/attitudes attributed to the group
Individuals accept racism and oppression as a reality
Rejection of the values and norms associated with the dominant group
Empathic understanding and an overpowering ethnocentric bias
Examples: Another point that I must pot down is that before I entered class today I was angry about the way Black people have been treated in this country. I don't think I will easily overcome that and I basically feel justified in my feelings.
We are concerned about the well-being of our own people. They cannot be well if they have this pinned-up hatred for their own. Internalized racism is something that we all felt, at various times, needed to be talked about.

[h3] Stage 4: Introspection[/h3] Description: Individuals develop a security in their racial identity that allows questioning of rigid Resistance attitudes
Re-direct anger/negativity toward "White system" to exploration of individual and group identity issues
Conflict between allegiance to one's own ethnic group and issues of personal autonomy
Individuals acknowledge there is variation amongst all groups of people
Examples: I have been aware for a long time that I am Korean. But through this class I am beginning to really become aware of my race. I am beginning to find out that White people can be accepting of me and at the same time accept me as a Korean.
I grew up wanting to be accepted and ended up almost denying my race and culture. I don't think I did this consciously, but the denial did occur. As I grew older, I realized that I was different. I became for the first time, friends with other Koreans. I realized I had much in common with them. This was when I went through my "Korean friend" stage. I began to enjoy being friends with Koreans more than I did with Caucasians.

Well ultimately, through many years of growing up, I am pretty much in focus about how I am and who my friends are. I knew before I took this class that there were people not of color that were understanding of my differences. In our class, I feel that everyone is trying to sincerely find the answer to abolishing racism. I knew people like this existed, but it's nice to meet with them weekly.

[h3] Stage 5: Synergetic Articulation and Awareness[/h3] Description: Characterized by a sense of self fulfillment with regard to racial identity, confident and secure
Desire to eliminate all forms of oppression
High level of positive regard toward self and toward one's group
Respect and appreciation for other racial/cultural groups
Openness to constructive elements of the dominant culture
Examples: ...

- stages more often spiral staircase than linear

o Stages from Ponterotto, J.G.; Pedersen, PB. (1993) Preventing Prejudice:A guide for counselors and educators. Newbury Park, Cal.

o Quotes from Tatum, B.D. Harvard Educatioan Review, 62(1), Spring 1992.




...

 

[homer]

Here's the thing though, he's been stuck on stupid for years, 0 growth. Let son be.

 

[dacityslanga]

So OP this is coming from someone that hasn't even GRADUATED from college. Oh yeah I forgot, you are only in it to get enough credits to go to the police academy.

HBCUs produce top graduates in certain fields of study. I myself went to 2 HBCUs. 1 for undergrad and 1 for grad. I work alongside people who graduated from these overrated expensive PWIs and 1/2 of the time, they can't even explain what their job description is, most were on the verge of academic dismissal.

Not to mention IMO HBCUs there is the networking, memories, girls, and lifetime friends.

HBCU>PWI

sidenote: PWIs were usually the name of the state ex: University of Maryland, University of Delaware, University of Virginia while HBCUs are have the name of the state first ex: Delaware State University, Virginia State, Alcorn State, Bowie State

 

[disgruntled 2]

Originally Posted by J Dilla Himself

You know what, you used to walk around here like some monster,
constantly annoying people, like an internet bully or something.  I
don't understand why you keep putting your race down, like you had some
epiphany and are trying to reject everything you ever knew.  Stop trying
to comfort the next man, you sound like some lost self-loathing negro
ashamed of his history.You should read The Invisible
Man, it's a good book for a person constantly voicing some of your
thoughts.

i put my race down because we continue to show how real these "stereotypes" are.  We continue to embarrass ourselves. My people are super sensitive when it comes to other races of people saying things about them and yet we continue to prove them right when we do something stupid.  %+$% our history.  what history we really have?  we are known for complaining about everything and blaming white people for everything...HBCU's are racist..idc how you put it..if there were any HWCU's, there will be an uproar.  Black people, as a whole will probably NEVER get better...why shouldnt i hate my people?  give me a reason to not be pessimistic about my people.





Your post was the only thing I read in this thread so if someone has already posted what I am thinking then my bad. The fact that you are calling HBCUs racist leads me to believe that you don't even know what an HBCU is and how they were created. You asking whats the point of existence of HBCUs today is like asking whats the point of the Lincoln memorial, white house, or washington monument still being around, these things are HISTORICAL. Lets face it, white people have not torn down any of their historical landmarks, so why should black people?

It's so funny to me when black people go in and rant about other black people or black history. We are the only race that does that and it all goes back to slavery. My people are terribly insecure.

 

[peteweezy]

It's so funny to me when black people go in and rant about other black people or black history. We are the only race that does that and it all goes back to slavery. My people are terribly insecure.
I agree you don't see any other group in wholesale numbers like I wish I didn't have to live with my race all the time except for black people.

 

[copped]

Originally Posted by the north west

Originally Posted by Homer

ya'll still responding? ask mayor what college he goes to.

right....i go to a top school and trust me when I say this, i've met some of the dumbest people there

so going to college does not equal being smart or intellectual

 

[black racer x]

Originally Posted by FromThaTown

Originally Posted by blazinRook


Black people did not know how to properly conduct themselves in society

because they were previously never given the chance, and HBCU's changed that.

What do you mean by that? That phrase doesn't fly with me right there. And you can insert any race in for the black people part, and it wouldn't be right. That's what the French said about my people. It's that " they don't know how conduct themselves, so we're here to help them." mentality.

"Civilize the savages."

 

[bluedeniro]

Originally Posted by cguy610

Originally Posted by bluedeniro

i actually liked my experience at >JACKSON STATE UNIVERISITY< and wouldn't trade it for nothing. I eventually transferred to a state school in Illinois for my Sophomore year,but i learned some things about black people, that so many (BLK)people fail to realize, and that's that we dont need to be surrounded by each other 24/7 every weel/month/year of our lives. I went to a low/middle income (urban) schools from pre,K-12th grade. The moment i realized was when, i seen kids in College that never went to class, sold weed and just chilled around the campus till late night, just hanging. In my mind i was like you M_ers paid to go to school to do some S_ you could of did for free at home

. HBCU's are very important because they giving a big helping hand. If you want to graduate and your unsure about how your gonna manage college work, i would go to a HBCU, no matter your Race

Because only Black people smoke weed right.  And only Black people hang out, party and don't go to class.

You sound like a loser.

I didnt say only blk people smoke weed chill fam, did you go to school with me, or did you attend a hbcu. If so please share your experiences,

And Come up with something logical so besides you sound like a loser fam, im pretty sure. Im from the lower income not the burbs, so i get upset

when i see kids from the burbs, get to college and become gangstas. I swear so NT'ers are so goofy, its crazy