Seriously, why do you people argue about the economy?

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In my ever so humble opinion, there is nothing so laughable as walking around (or perusing Niketalk for that matter) and listening to people argue vehementlyabout what the right thing to do with our economy is. Listening to people argue about politics (especially 'hard' politics like economy, taxes, foreignpolicy, etc.) is bad enough, but when people start arguing about taxes and it's like bashing your head into a wall. "omg u idiot reaganomics lol thatdoesn't work" "omg r u serious obama is going to tax is into bolivan, socialism lol"

Seriously. You have no idea what you are talking about, so why bother talking at all? Every single little piece of data that you have gathered, every articleyou have ever read, everything somebody ever told you, etc. is already known by actual economists. Yes, I am sorry but that thing you heard on the talk radiothis morning is not a novel idea, and no, the president's staff are not a bunch of idiots that never considered the implications of raising or loweringtaxes, or the interest rate, or whatever.

These conversations/posts of people insulting each other are getting ridiculous. None of you have the faintest idea of what you are talking about. Instead ofarguing about it and calling each other idiots, why don't you just accept that people way, way more knowledgable than you are working hard on the problemand don't need your input. Go argue about whether gays should be allowed to marry, or whether abortion should be legal, or something where opinionsactually matter.

There is absolutely no reason for this post, and I am making it on NT becuase I don't care about getting flamed here. Which, come to think about it, iskind of pathetic because it means that I do care about getting flamed elsewhere. In other news, I am going to bed.

Oh yeah, and my opinion on the economy is to get the smartest team possible, and have them fix it, and I'll worry about other things. Obama needs to getover all the stupid feminist ninnys and get on with appointing Larry Summers for Treasury.

KTHXBYE



Edit: as a habit, my OP's are always wildly inflammatory, arrogant and flame-inducing. My responses and discussions are typically milder, mostly because Ivent everything in the OP and then am pretty much done venting after that

Edit: I thought of a good comparison while falling asleep. Economics is a science, much like medicine. When you get some crazy disease that very few peoplehave, then the best doctors in the world are going to put all their knowledge possible towards figuring out the best cure, but the answer won't beconcrete, won't be guaranteed to work, and likely won't be agreed upon. Nonetheless, as a common person, your inputs as to precisely which ratios ofmedicines or which cells of ectoplasmic goo the doctor should use are completely, 100% useless. So, rather than screaming at each other about it, devote yourenergies to more productive ventures.

Bed time now, for realzzz.
 
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My post title made me think of this. For what it's worth, "you people" means "you people who insist on arguing angrily about topics onwhich you are wholly unfit to comment on."
 
A post about dumb people not knowing what they're talking about.................

by a dumb person who doesn't know what he is talking about?

Irony
 
Yeah, I understand what you are saying. Its cool to have a discussion, but its so annoying when you hear people get on their soapboxes and regurgitatesomething they heard on tv. I don't know why people get so worked up about it and start to argue. Bottom line, you are still going to have to work as hardas you can to provide for your family.
 
so you are suggesting that we should just hand over the government to the elites who are "way more knowledgeable" than all of us. we shouldn'tquestion their motives or solutions at all because we "don't know what we are talking about"?
 
Originally Posted by SchruteFarms

so you are suggesting that we should just hand over the government to the elites who are "way more knowledgeable" than all of us. we shouldn't question their motives or solutions at all because we "don't know what we are talking about"?
I'm suggesting that people stop arguing with each other when all they do is regurgitate facts that aren't even right in the first place. You can't have debate when you don't have the knowledge bank, intelligence or capacity to engage in conversation on given points.

Hell, even ACTUAL debates nowadays are just candidates going down their list of points and buzz words to say.



And no, my beliefs of government are pretty far removed from those of main stream society, but Niketalk is not where I choose to discuss them.
 
Originally Posted by kix4kix

A post about dumb people not knowing what they're talking about.................

by a dumb person who doesn't know what he is talking about?

Irony

K. I went to Berkeley, going to grad school at Stanford and will eventually pursue a PhD. So, I probably know more about the economy than 99% of NT, and Isay 99% because I probably know all three of the guys that are in that 1%, and I basically know nothing about it anyway. Nothing PRACTICAL at least, althoughI could probably tell you something you didn't already know if we discuss non financial markets or something.

Anyway, if I can admit that despite reading dozens of articles and conversing with econ PhDs, grad students, etc. it is very unclear what wide rangingsolutions might look like, then I think everyone else can man up and admit that they know nothing and stop arguing too. Nobody totally knows what's goingon or how to fix it, and at best we have some speculative theories. So, what your cousin heard on the news is actually not, "the only real solution,which none of those idiots ever thought of"



Put your argumentative energies to better use, like reading, or arguing about the god damned BCS or something. Stupid BCS.
 
thats funny. thats my major in college right now, and it's getting downright crazy during class discussions. i sometimes wonder why i chose to study that.this downward cycle has come at a good time learning wise.
 
Originally Posted by WallyHopp

thats funny. thats my major in college right now, and it's getting downright crazy during class discussions. i sometimes wonder why i chose to study that. this downward cycle has come at a good time learning wise.
Yeah, try being an entrepreneur and MBA-to-be with a heavy entrepreneurial focus during this.

"Nobody is going to give you any money. Go away"

Fundraising sucks.
 
Originally Posted by VirgilMalloy

Originally Posted by kix4kix

A post about dumb people not knowing what they're talking about.................

by a dumb person who doesn't know what he is talking about?

Irony

K. I went to Berkeley, going to grad school at Stanford and will eventually pursue a PhD. So, I probably know more about the economy than 99% of NT, and I say 99% because I probably know all three of the guys that are in that 1%.

Anyway, if I can admit that despite reading dozens of articles and conversing with econ PhDs, grad students, etc. it is very unclear what wide ranging solutions might look like, then I think everyone else can man up and admit that they know nothing and stop arguing too. Nobody totally knows what's going on or how to fix it, and at best we have some speculative theories. So, what your cousin heard on the news is actually not, "the only real solution, which none of those idiots ever thought of"



Put your argumentative energies to better use, like reading, or arguing about the god damned BCS or something. Stupid BCS.


I am a Dartmouth dropout going to Carleton, and also plan on pursuing a PhD education isn't the issue here. I am glad you know the 3, as do I
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You are stating that it is pointless to argue when nobody know anything. Of course nobody KNOWS anything, by that logic what is color?....What is time?

Just because there is no right or wrong: does not mean there is no need for debate.
 
can you help me get my poker game to the next level

it often seems like I make small improvements to my game but I often fall back into my bad habits
 
Originally Posted by the north west

can you help me get my poker game to the next level

it often seems like I make small improvements to my game but I often fall back into my bad habits
Definitely. Dig up my old, long thread from the grave and I'll throw out some Miyagi's when I'm bored at work tomorrow.
 
I agree wholeheartedly. Which is why I never get into political arguments, or care about politics. Because I know that I don't know what the %%%%I'm talking about, and I know nobody else does, either.

People repeat what they hear on C-SPAN and CNN and think they're %*#+%%! geniuses.
 
Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by VirgilMalloy

Originally Posted by kix4kix

A post about dumb people not knowing what they're talking about.................

by a dumb person who doesn't know what he is talking about?

Irony

K. I went to Berkeley, going to grad school at Stanford and will eventually pursue a PhD. So, I probably know more about the economy than 99% of NT, and I say 99% because I probably know all three of the guys that are in that 1%.

Anyway, if I can admit that despite reading dozens of articles and conversing with econ PhDs, grad students, etc. it is very unclear what wide ranging solutions might look like, then I think everyone else can man up and admit that they know nothing and stop arguing too. Nobody totally knows what's going on or how to fix it, and at best we have some speculative theories. So, what your cousin heard on the news is actually not, "the only real solution, which none of those idiots ever thought of"



Put your argumentative energies to better use, like reading, or arguing about the god damned BCS or something. Stupid BCS.


I am a Dartmouth dropout going to Carleton, and also plan on pursuing a PhD education isn't the issue here. I am glad you know the 3, as do I
laugh.gif


You are stating that it is pointless to argue when nobody know anything. Of course nobody KNOWS anything, by that logic what is color?....What is time?

Just because there is no right or wrong: does not mean there is no need for debate.


When there's no right or wrong, then there DEFINITELY should be debate.
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With the economy, there is I am saying that there IS a right and a wrong. I just don't know what it is, and neither does anybody else except for maybe the~1000 or so people who are dedicating 18 hours a day and 20 years of education to, debating, conversing and interacting with each other to try to figure itout. Let's let them handle it. Also, second time mentioning it, but Larry Summers for treasury plz. Kthxoboma.
 
Originally Posted by VirgilMalloy

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by VirgilMalloy

Originally Posted by kix4kix

A post about dumb people not knowing what they're talking about.................

by a dumb person who doesn't know what he is talking about?

Irony

K. I went to Berkeley, going to grad school at Stanford and will eventually pursue a PhD. So, I probably know more about the economy than 99% of NT, and I say 99% because I probably know all three of the guys that are in that 1%.

Anyway, if I can admit that despite reading dozens of articles and conversing with econ PhDs, grad students, etc. it is very unclear what wide ranging solutions might look like, then I think everyone else can man up and admit that they know nothing and stop arguing too. Nobody totally knows what's going on or how to fix it, and at best we have some speculative theories. So, what your cousin heard on the news is actually not, "the only real solution, which none of those idiots ever thought of"



Put your argumentative energies to better use, like reading, or arguing about the god damned BCS or something. Stupid BCS.


I am a Dartmouth dropout going to Carleton, and also plan on pursuing a PhD education isn't the issue here. I am glad you know the 3, as do I
laugh.gif


You are stating that it is pointless to argue when nobody know anything. Of course nobody KNOWS anything, by that logic what is color?....What is time?

Just because there is no right or wrong: does not mean there is no need for debate.


When there's no right or wrong, then there DEFINITELY should be debate.
smile.gif



With the economy, there is I am saying that there IS a right and a wrong. I just don't know what it is, and neither does anybody else except for maybe the ~1000 or so people who are dedicating 18 hours a day and 20 years of education to, debating, conversing and interacting with each other to try to figure it out. Let's let them handle it. Also, second time mentioning it, but Larry Summers for treasury plz. Kthxoboma.


Make that 4.
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The subject isn't annoying to argue about. There's many facets to econ. to have an opinion to. Whether they're surfaced leveled convo's thesubject is still concrete enough to discuss because everyone can 'feel' economic effects.
 
I think that a lot of people debate about the economy because it is currently in the spotlight of the national media. (I also believe that it should always bein the spotlight whether it is good or bad, but people in general seem to care more when it is bad.)

<O'brother> Everybody's lookin for answers</O'brother>

Along the way, I find it refreshing to know that people have opinions. Sure a lot of people regurgitate their opinions from the outlets that they originallyheard them from. But I like to take that into consideration when listening to what they have to say. So maybe one of your super-intellectual minds comes upwith a solution that sounds an awful lot like something the homeless person on the bus was yelling. Either way, it's a solution, right?

I urge you to be aware of the strength that people have in numbers. That's how a lot of these political agendas get passed-getting enough people to supportyour points for you.

Pay attention to those theories that you are hearing more and more often, because they will be the ones that MOST people will stand behind and support. If youdo not care for the opinions being voiced, might I suggest to you to come up with an alternative and attempt to win the favor of those who actually make thepolicies and laws that we all live by?
 
retr0sxual wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly. Which is why I never get into political arguments, or care about politics. Because I know that I don't know what the %%%% I'm talking about, and I know nobody else does, either.

People repeat what they hear on C-SPAN and CNN and think they're %*#+%%! geniuses.


Man I hate that.I also can't stand the people who tell me I should vote.Then when I ask why they never have a legit reason.Just repeat $+#% they saw on asean john shirt and $+#%.
 
this is the OP's argument in a nutshell....

"you can't do anything about it...so why bother talking/arguing about it"

quite defeatist if you ask me
 
I didnt read this post, but i do see alot of threads on the economy "you're doing it wrong". Like what makes you so much more qualified orknowledgeable on the direction the economy needs to take than the actual economists who steer it? I wonder if the roles were reversed would you even have anyeffect?
 
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