should we really blame the reseller?

[space doodoo pistols]

behead all resellers. filthy swine.

 

[kozumasbullitt]

Originally Posted by mattwhite2385

Originally Posted by Kozumasbullitt

Originally Posted by rayz


1st of all, that would hurt a lot people, there is never too much than too little
2nd, I would blame myself a consumerism rather than how much money I make.   

But why is the Government to blame? I agree with the point you are trying to make and that we live in a capitalistic society.

not so much "blame"... what hes saying is that the way our govt is structured, there is wage gaps, which gives ppl incentive to find ways to make extra $, hence ppl capitalizing on hype/reselling

The last time I checked, the Government helps the poor. What kind of tax incentives does a single person with no kids making a 100K get? Can a person making a 100k qualify for food stamps or WIC? If you need to blame the government for less fortunate people camping out to buy shoes to resell then your thought process is off. Fairness is very subjective and I feel it's unfair to not be able to buy shoes at retail when I work hard to make my paycheck and some loser who has all the time in the world to camp out depletes stock.

 

[el bro]

Originally Posted by MurdaMilJoker

Don't hate the player hate the game

Yeah, there definitely is a fine line.  Lets say you buy a shoe that you really liked, and either 1. it became really popular(SB LBJ

, 2. Fit too big(AJ IV, XII) or 3. just didnt want it anymore.  Do you sell it for retail?  or you go in line for what they are selling for? Does that make you a reseller?  In most peoples eyes, the answer is no.

Resellers to me are people who deliberately stand in line for a shoe they never plan on wearing and selling it to the person behind them for a profit.  That is part of the problem. 

The other part is the people who are willing to pay the price.  I mean if people are willing to pay these prices, who is really at fault.

Another problem are fees associated with selling, Im talking about ebay and FC.   People want to get a shoe and roll in all the fees that its gonna cost them to sell the shoe.

Then you have idiots purposely trying to inflate prices, by making up their own high ridiculous prices.

Hopefully prices start to come down soon, with the high saturation of shoes thats on the market right now.  Nike and JB are killing it right now with all the shoes they are putting in market.  At some point people will realize they have too many shoes and will either 1. Slow down and be more selective on what they buy, or 2. Try to sell what they have in an already oversaturated market.

 

[dtownjumpman]

The only thing I can blame on resellers is the "sell out" of shoes for them to make a profit. You can also blame store managers and employess for their "hook ups" and hold backs. But you cant hate on that, its part of the game. I seen the manager at footlocker tell a 13 year old-@*+ kid he cannot buy a pair of 13's because they didnt fit him. I was thinking what if he was buying them for a gift? But that was not the case since I see the same group of asian kids every big release trying to resell shoes for a profit. It all boils down to how bad YOU want the shoe. NO we cannot wait til the mall opens to get these shoes. Its part of the game now. You got to "get down" or "lay down" - Beans

 

[dtownjumpman]

...Also I dont like to see people say "these reseller/hype threads need to be against the rules". This is a forum "discussion" website. IF you dont like it, dont read it. It obviously caught your attention because you decided to comment.... just like you decided to get up at 2am to get the new "J's". Its a choice people! Get off your cycle sweet booty!

 

[cmoweb]

Yes, its the resellers' fault. PERIOD

NO WHINING. If you go to the store and buy a 13, when you're a size 8, and try to sell the shoe for $50 over retail, plus $30 shipping, etc. You're MOIST!
It's so bad, the shoe store workers tell people they better buy something (no matter what size), just so they make sure they get something. You can trade them online, etc.
This hobby got ridiculous, and it's unfortunate. It used to be enjoyable, now it's just a hassle... (NOT A HUSTLE, %#%%)

 

[pepperhead183]

I don't hate. I work a lot of hours a week and have no time to stand on line for sneakers. I usally have no luck ordering online. So if it is a sneaker i want...F'it i'll pay to get them. If these guys wanna wait online when I can't, I don't expect them to sell them for retail. I had a connect where I was getting 5 pairs on release dates of anything I wanted at box price. Now unfortunatly he is not in the shoe game anymore so I'm beat. But I had a 4 guys that would take a pair everytime for a little over retail. I ended up with a free kick and some lunch. Now tables are turned and I'm not mad paying over for something I want.

 

[yoshoegameiswack]

Originally Posted by MurdaMilJoker

Don't hate the player hate the game

 

[luckycharmz]

No hype - no demand - no resellers. Y'all are the ones making the hype.

 

[throwedindagame]

Resellers need to put food on the table. I never knock another mans husstle.

 

[Longevity.JPEG]

We as consumers fund and make the market what it is.

 

[jah23]

Real Smoke my dude! I RE SELL to buy more pairs.. and sometimes i make some moeny. im 24 and i make money off of pairs that i bought in high school. how many people save money from grade school?.. blame the hypebeast who dont really want the sneaker. blame the shops letting 5 pairs go to 1 person. dont blame the poeople waiting in line 24 hrs for sneakers. I have yet to start reselling the sneakers the just come out but i would like to. i think the top resellers are moving on to shops and websites that become more than a couple flipped pairs. thats real. resellers wern't doing so good 3 years ago. but hey get it how you live.

 

[fx35on24s]

^^ real spit...

 

[jumpman cbt2]

Originally Posted by mattwhite2385

^^^ This wont happen to food bc there is basically an endless supply and they dont run out of stock, very few things do... ( however, out jail/prison systems do this to inmates nonstop, making a profit off of retail priced foods) technically eastbay etc is a reselller, since they get them from the manufacture, cutting us out, and "resell" them at a higher price. They set the price as the price thats as high as they think we will pay. Isnt that greedy too? Every company and business and person does it to some extent. Sneakers are just trendy right now, it will die out in time.

nike/JB could fix all of this buy making more, but then they would take a loss and at the end of the day they only care about making $ too. They could care less whether you personally get what you want, as long as they sell their product, they are happy

Well it does not happen in the wealthy countriesWhere you and me live. But in many african And southeast asian countries, some food likeImported ones, they absolutely cannot afford.In some occassions i have sold my worn pairsFor few money i knew because i was notHaving much personal attachment to someAnd i feel good if others can have jordansFor cheap which are still in a great conditionBut just not DS anymore. I also donated someNikes to homeless people.sometimes sharing is more than gatheringThings like a hamster. Thats why i also only buy one pair of each colorwayBecause i think other people want them too.I know the feeling if missing a pair i really want,So i don't want this happen to anyone as muchAs possible.

 

[apthekid]

I'd like to just add one quick point...

Mom & Pop shops almost ALWAYS sell at a higher than retail price. Both for early releases and even sometimes after the release date. I live in the northeast and I know for a fact that spots in north jersey (Newark, Elizabeth, JC) sell kicks over retail well after RD. Downtown Brooklyn (Fulton Mall) does the same thing. Matter fact, I was in Elizabeth a few weeks ago and dude had a pair of red foams...I asked him how much and he said 400. I looked at him confused, and then he started beasting on me for asking to get them at retail...no bs.

My point is, no one ever seems to blame the retailers that are doing the EXACT SAME THING as resellers, but making MUCH MUCH HIGHER PROFITS! These mom & pop stores are getting the kicks are wholesale prices and flipping for resell prices!

I personally have spent over retail on kicks three times in my life (and 1 was an accident). If I can't get em on RD, then I move on to the next release or I wait...Usually, no eff that, ALWAYS a deal comes around...just gotta be patient. But it seems like the retailers sometimes get free passes...and they shouldn't.

 

[mattwhite2385]

Originally Posted by apthekid

I'd like to just add one quick point...

Mom & Pop shops almost ALWAYS sell at a higher than retail price. Both for early releases and even sometimes after the release date. I live in the northeast and I know for a fact that spots in north jersey (Newark, Elizabeth, JC) sell kicks over retail well after RD. Downtown Brooklyn (Fulton Mall) does the same thing. Matter fact, I was in Elizabeth a few weeks ago and dude had a pair of red foams...I asked him how much and he said 400. I looked at him confused, and then he started beasting on me for asking to get them at retail...no bs.

My point is, no one ever seems to blame the retailers that are doing the EXACT SAME THING as resellers, but making MUCH MUCH HIGHER PROFITS! These mom & pop stores are getting the kicks are wholesale prices and flipping for resell prices!

I personally have spent over retail on kicks three times in my life (and 1 was an accident). If I can't get em on RD, then I move on to the next release or I wait...Usually, no eff that, ALWAYS a deal comes around...just gotta be patient. But it seems like the retailers sometimes get free passes...and they shouldn't.

REAL TALK. I think its the mom and pop shops who started selling early for ahigher price that probably iniated all of this. Why you ask? They found out that someone will pay say 250 for a 160 shoe to get them a week or two early. What does that do? It sets a market. People now see that others will pay at least 250 for a shoe. Now resellers have this knowledge, which becomes what they needed. They know people will pay it so it begins...

 

[geoff2005]

i blame it on the people who are willing to pay resellers price, if most people just stuck to only paying 20 bucks over retail, there would never be ridiculous resellers. its all about supply and demand because so many people are willing to buy at high resell price than the sellers will keep jacking up prices. also blame nike for not releasing more pairs lol

 

[heatking]

if nike made more pairs i wouldn't wear them. i dont want to go places everyone got the same shoe as me.

i throw the blame on people who don't give two dog terds about sneakers but wake up early every saturday to go stay in line for some jordans just to resell them or sell their spot in line.

people who actually got love for nikes and jordans that resell the shoe to pay for their pair or kop a pair for trade bait is ok in my books.

the real only way to get rid of reselling is to charge retail whatever the resell price is to the point where the price is competing with gucci, prada, LV prices, then only real boss dudes will buy them and resellers wont be able to make no money on them because your regular joe wouldn't be able to afford them.

you start charging retail 500, 400 or 350 for some lebrons or jordans i bet you no one will be reselling them.

 

[envy]

Supply and demand.

 

[al bundy5]

Originally Posted by Kozumasbullitt

Laughing at blame the Government, you only have yourself to blame for what income you make.

Exactly. Blaming the government for your income is what a left wing commie liberal would do. You control what you earn, blaming others makes you a victim. Never be a victim. This is why I hate socialism. It teaches dependency while capitalism teaches self sufficiency.

 

[apthekid]

^^LOL. What do you know of socialism to make those statements? Have you ever lived in a socialist country? You are over simplifying VERY complicated ideas, while at the same time, making generalization statements.

FYI, China is a "socialist" country, that happens to have a larger economy than the US's...There are inert flaws in socialism, as there are with all economic systems, but to say it teaches dependency while capitalis teaches self sufficiency, is in my opinion, incorrect.

By the way, the US is and has always had a capitalist economic system...would you say all americans are self sufficient or aspire for self sufficiency?

But back to sneakers!

 

[rayz]

Originally Posted by jumpman cbt2

Ur point is totally off. Imagine everything like
even food will be bought up by resellers
And sell them at much higher price again!
Any kind of resellers should go to h@ll.

The retail for kicks are already not cheap and
Yet these greedy people want to make their
Money with that. I remember when tamagotchis
Were hyped and sold for 10 times higher price in
hong kong.
this reselling phenomena is a cancer of our
Consuming system.
Its ok to resell shoes at higher price if they are
Out of stock in regular stores.
But nowadays these resellers just buy up
Many stores from stores to make it quite
Impossible for many to buy kicks at
regular retail price. Also the retailers have
Clear return and warranty policies whhich
Many resellers dont have!

the difference between food  and sneaker is u can live without sneaker but u can't live without food.  that's why there is regulation controlling the food price, but nothing what so ever controls the price of "jordan"

 

[EddieDoyers]

I blame everyone. No one has to pay the reseller price. People could let the prices sit for months until it reaches to below retail price. The seller should fear the customer, not the other way around. 

 

[411swim]

I'm not a reseller, but if there's demand for the shoes, then I don't see why people have to hate on the people supplying them. If I buy something for $200 that I know I can sell for $300, that's what I'd do. No hate, and besides, some resellers are helping people who missed out get a pair of kicks they really want. Others are just trying to make a buck

 

[space doodoo pistols]

Originally Posted by 411swim

I'm not a reseller, but if there's demand for the shoes, then I don't see why people have to hate on the people supplying them. If I buy something for $200 that I know I can sell for $300, that's what I'd do. No hate, and besides, some resellers are helping people who missed out get a pair of kicks they really want. Others are just trying to make a buck

you sound like a reseller with a conscience.