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i dunno man. some of the early 2000 stuff has sub-par material. what year were the beige nyc snakes and women's grapes? i'm trying to remember pairs that i got and was disappointed with the quality.
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Three turning points:
- White on whites going into constant production
- Thinner and easier to crease leather
- Rappers and other celebrities fuelling the one a day mentality with white on whites
Discuss
Every time I pick up the Lunars they just feel so trash to me. Like Nike is "tricking" the consumer by using all these other materials other than leather on their shoes
This is something I hadn't really thought of.
When I first started working at a shoe store, it was when they did White on Whites in the spring/summer, and Black forces in the fal//winter.
When it just started being a year round thing, the drop off was nuts
Yall are funny. In 04/05 Nike started making premium and later supreme air forces with the same quality that was put on older stuff. Its not like good quality air forces stopped being made they just used a different name to distinguish them. Nike probly figured that the people buying $70 air forces didnt care about the quality, and the people who did could buy the premiums for more $$. Hell, theres pairs coming out today that are just as nice of quality as the early 2000s stuff. The shape is off yes, but to say high quality air forces didnt exist after 03 is just wrong.
Youre so angry man. Turn that frown upside down!!BIP he knows what we are talking about. To not contradict us wouldn't be him. Isn't the shape of the shoe part of the quality? Quality depends only on materials? Obviously quality still exists but the quality of materials and shape from the 90s is unmatchable. Go back to buying and selling fake jordan samples buddy.
BIP he knows what we are talking about. To not contradict us wouldn't be him. Isn't the shape of the shoe part of the quality? Quality depends only on materials? Obviously quality still exists but the quality of materials and shape from the 90s is unmatchable. Go back to buying and selling fake jordan samples buddy.
Youre so angry man. Turn that frown upside down!!
No I didnt know what youre talkin about actually. If Nike is making air forces with nice materials, whats the issue? You cant honestly expect to get a Nike shoe with great materials for $80? The shape is the shape. Its really not that big of a deal to me. If you give two pairs of air forces with the same materials to a non-sneakerhead (hell, most sneakerheads outside this thread even) they wouldnt be able to tell the difference.
Youre so angry man. Turn that frown upside down!!
No I didnt know what youre talkin about actually. If Nike is making air forces with nice materials, whats the issue? You cant honestly expect to get a Nike shoe with great materials for $80? The shape is the shape. Its really not that big of a deal to me. If you give two pairs of air forces with the same materials to a non-sneakerhead (hell, most sneakerheads outside this thread even) they wouldnt be able to tell the difference.
The reason why the fit is so bad is because they use really cheap, stiff pleather. Buy a pair of premium/supreme air forces and tell me theyre more uncomfortable than an older pair. To me, my linens and year of the dragon 2s feel the same.I disagree. Not only have they changed the visual shape of the shoe, they changed the fit as well. The last time I bought a new pair of white/ whites in my size about 4-5 yrs ago, they were too big. I had to go down 1/2 size but they were so uncomfortable, I relegated them to sock less summer beaters and shortly afterward just got rid of them. Every pair of AF1's I currently own are 10.5 and fit perfectly, "newest" pair being PR2's. Even if they brought back quality leather, I won't ever buy another pair because the shape AND the fit is bad.
I disagree. Not only have they changed the visual shape of the shoe, they changed the fit as well. The last time I bought a new pair of white/ whites in my size about 4-5 yrs ago, they were too big. I had to go down 1/2 size but they were so uncomfortable, I relegated them to sock less summer beaters and shortly afterward just got rid of them. Every pair of AF1's I currently own are 10.5 and fit perfectly, "newest" pair being PR2's. Even if they brought back quality leather, I won't ever buy another pair because the shape AND the fit is bad.
The reason why the fit is so bad is because they use really cheap, stiff pleather. Buy a pair of premium/supreme air forces and tell me theyre more uncomfortable than an older pair. To me, my linens and year of the dragon 2s feel the same.
As for thee other person who said you should be able to get a great quality GR for $90, well... thats your opinion. With Lebrons and Jordans retailing for upwards of $200, I dont think thats realistic.
BIP he knows what we are talking about. To not contradict us wouldn't be him. Isn't the shape of the shoe part of the quality? Quality depends only on materials? Obviously quality still exists but the quality of materials and shape from the 90s is unmatchable.
Anybody remember when white-on-white forces were just as hard to get on release day as Jordan's? Like you wouldn't have to camp but you'd have to be up early and be in touch with some mom and pop or FL employees to let you know when they were gonna drop. If you didn't cop that day you were waiting a good 6 months for a pair.