As much as I don't like Bonds and was amused by the asterisk ball, I respect this stance. 808. PERIOD. 20% off karmaloop.com with code: JBOAT
Isn't this the same dude who said somethin' like, "I don't want the ball, let the fans do whatever they want with it"....? And now, because he decided to let the fans go and sell it or auction it, or do whatever, someone with enough money, and a sense of humor, decided to have a little fun with it. You should've made a deal with the person who caught the ball, if you didn't want something like this to happen, idiot. FLOAT AROUND IN THE GREATEST OF PORSCHES, FEEL LIKE A CHUCKWAGON CUZ I'M ON 12 HORSES
This is great, I hope the HOF sticks to its decision - its about to become the biggest tourist attraction item in the history of that building. And the asterisk is awesome. Sums up our generation of MLB almost perfectly. You're the Kind of Girl a Guy Like MeCould Hypnotize
i don't blame him, but its his own fault. if he had just came out and done a giambi, nothing would have happened, instead he just acted like a moron. he should have just bought the ball and kept it. but he's barry bonds, so.........
^ Barry not having a court case and having a jury declare him "guilty" doesnt really apply to this one IMO.... We're not throwing Barry in prison, we're not taking rights away from him. We as the public are merely stating our opinion on the whole issue, and we overwhelmingly voted to brand the ball. I think it speaks volumes. We're not in 1960 and dealing with Mantle and Mays and Maris. This is the roid era, a different era, and our favorite athletes have become lab rats all the while never owning up to anything they do (some do, but most dont). As Ive mentioned on here before, I think the branded ball is almost a perfect symbol of sport now. Do i really think its in the bests interests of history for items to be altered or branded? No. But in this case I think it's almost hilarious, and because its happening to Bonds its even better. He's spent the better part of a half decade lying to the public and trying to become "woe is me" while also making truckloads of money. He can deal with it in my book. As he said when initially asked about #756, he doesnt care about the ball - its for the fans. Say what you want about Ecko putting this up for a vote (I obviously see all sides and how people would think its grimey).................but the public sorta spoke when given a choice to do so. You're the Kind of Girl a Guy Like MeCould Hypnotize
giambi was never found guilty of anything either. neither was sheffield. they both said they took something, they didnt know what it was, but they took it. both of them apologized for taking it, because we now know what it was. barry, marion jones, giambi and sheff have never been found guilty of anything. however, 3/4 have came out admitted their error in judgement. add to the fact that barry is a jerk, stuff like this is bound to happen to him. whether the ball has an asterisk makes little difference. people are going to think what they want anyway.
DoubleJs, are these REALLY assumptions people are making? And we need a court case with a verdict for EVERY decision that is made with things like this? If so, then...... You are not going to take into account that he "admitted" to taking the clear while he was on the stand? You arent going to take into account his trainer continues to rot away in prison, ONLY because he will not talk about what he knows about Bonds? You arent going to take into account the Balco raids, and how the Game of Shadows authors viewed leaked testimony that showed Conte admitted to the Feds that first night that Bonds was one of the clients he had on a drug schedule? How the Feds found doping calenders, vials, and prescriptions all with Bonds' name and/or initials on them? You arent going to take into account his positive MLB test for amphetamines last spring when he initially threw a teammate under the bus? And lastly you arent going to take into account the source of the testimony leaks (a lawyer) admitting to leaking the info to the Game of Shadows authors and thus pleaded guilty and is currently awaiting his jail sentence? Which sorta tells us that the info the authors used was correct and true..... And so on. This is a whole nother discussion......but again, i dont think we (the public) need an entire court case and a guilty verdict on something for the public to not take some action if given the choice to do so.....again, his rights were not taken from him. We're talking about a piece of history he does not own nor has legal rights to. You're the Kind of Girl a Guy Like MeCould Hypnotize
^^ Hes right. The Hall of Fame is there to enshrine the players for their achievements. I think Mark Ecko has the right to do whatever he wants to the ball. All the museum has to do is either not display it or reject the offer. Its more of a statement on how they really respect their players or if their just their to make the most money possible. Help me out with this SURVEYOnly need 40 more. Really easy
These threads are always interesting. Sticking up for Barry is like playing the Devils advocate. True, he has never tested positive for steroid use. Then again that's why he went to Balco and not some clinic in Mexico. He wanted the best stuff on the market, product that testing committees didn't even know about. The chickens have come home to roost for Barry. The people have spoken with their vote, the Hall seems to support it, this should get interesting.
He is just saying this now so when he gets banned from the Hall he can use this as an excuse... Team Portland Trail Blazers 503 Oregon State BeaversPortland StateVikings
barrys pure garbage. maybe wed sympathize if that fool wasnt rubbing "flaxseed" on his body everyday. EDIT: and USC TROJANSLouisiana Superdome January 7, 2008Joe McKnight - Future Heisman Winner