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that's why i stay out this thread
yall be spoiling the podcast too much
im caught upIn case you haven't caught up in the real world, Donald Trump won the Presidential Election
that's why i stay out this thread
yall be spoiling the podcast too much



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Strictly on the music, Wale doesn't make better music his peers. His delivery is trash and songs aren't as catchy and melodic compared to Drake, not a top tier Lyricist or has the cohesiveness on his projects like Kendrick. J.Cole sounds and flows better on features than anything Wale has dropped.
He's had major mainstream looks and nobody cares about his music because they don't think it's that good. Everyone has their lane but he's not great at anything, so there's no reason to check for him. We've seen artists with PR nightmares like Tyga become the butt of jokes and comeback with bangers that get spins so it can't just be his image.
Strictly on the music, Wale doesn't make better music his peers. His delivery is trash and songs aren't as catchy and melodic compared to Drake, not a top tier Lyricist or has the cohesiveness on his projects like Kendrick. J.Cole sounds and flows better on features than anything Wale has dropped.
He's had major mainstream looks and nobody cares about his music because they don't think it's that good. Everyone has their lane but he's not great at anything, so there's no reason to check for him. We've seen artists with PR nightmares like Tyga become the butt of jokes and comeback with bangers that get spins so it can't just be his image.
I do agree with Joe that if he was in a relationship with an r&b singer or whatever that he'd get more recognition. But yeah, he's unlikeable and i don't care to listen to his ****.
His perception would be totally different. Unless they have a bad image, female fans typically support their artists partnerWale used to date Solange when she was Beyonce's little sister. I wonder since how she's perceived now, how he would be perceived with that.
at Wale not being a top tier lyricist.Not gonna lie, I only got through 40 minutes yesterday, so I was feeling the same way.
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What's a top tier lyricist in 2019?
But in his class, you’re bugging if you’re saying he’s not top tier. Wale raps better than Kendrick and Drake/Drake’s writers imo. Cole from a technical standpoint is the only one who can run a lap with him on that front.



Haven't listened to anything from Wale this year, but based on his previous projects he's not as good at making music as his peers. Anyone who says they'd take Wale's discography over Drake/Cole/Kendrick/Ross is a damn liar or in a very small minority. I don't think Wale is a bad lyricist at all, I don't think he's as good as his peers. Everyone of these guys has put out monumental, great songs in their career at some point. Even guys that were on his label.Prior to last year I'd agree but last year he had some really good music come out even with it not being as melodic or catchy. Quality of music for Wale recently has been very nice
recognition for his relationship not for his music. He'd be the Karruche

I mean the bar is a bit lower now and/or lyricist don't get as much shine as the entertainers do so they may not be as known
but I'd go:
Top Tier: Push, Cyhi, Ross
Elite: Kendrick,
Great: Cole, Drake, 2 Chainz, B.o.B.
I'm not too hip with the younger acts so idk who any of the lyricists could be
Even in this context "top tier" isn't the best way to describe him because it implies he's super elite. He's better than all three of them for sure, too bad he's not good at the other part of being an amazing artist

Music is subjective, so having any discussion about quality is rooted in opinion.So you aren't debating facts, you're debating your opinion
Ross ain't top tier
BOB?
2 Chainz on the same level as Cole and Drake?