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Interesting indeed
****The Everything LaVar Ball Thread****
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What does lonzo have to put up to warrant this?
16 and 7?
16 and 7?
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I hope they did their research. Getting hit with lawsuits over patents would suck
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Yeah I'm not sure I'd call it exploitation, but only a select few get an opportunity at real entrepreneurship and ownership. Interesting to see where this goes.
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Wouldnt mind seeing a Lonzo X Kristaps P&R
. Only Phil can **** that up though (and we have to find out if Lonzo can actually play pick and roll...but that's another story) 
. The marketing and being in NYC would be brazy.
Pray the Lakers lose the pick and that happens [emoji]128591[/emoji][emoji]127998[/emoji]. #ALA
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Maybe not but Nike has made more of Jordan then Jordan has.
They don't even have shoe commercials anymore.
These athletes can move units off namesake.
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LaVar is already saying Lonzo designed the shoes.. 
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Their resources, designers, marketing, distributors, materials, branding, patenting, legal etc. I feel for a relationship like that, that's how it's supposed to work. Having a sponsor/investor in an industry you don't know is usually a good look for a young athlete, but of course they need their returns. That's why it's interesting to see how the Balls navigate this.
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Total/number Sales is what i said but ok business man ...Anyway Big Baller Brand moving units, salute to em!He was looking round a mil a year, if that order number is indeed the number of sales then Big Ballers already surpassed that and then some in salesBig Baller Brand on the rise
Also for everybody talking bout the price this just the pre release hype prices, they already said they droppin a $200 shoe a lil later, which is still kinda steep but thats about what alotta sneakers cost these days
Companies are struggling with selling the $200 shoes to be honest.
And your math may be off with the total sales vs what companies would have given dude for endorsing.
And tbh it shouldnt be hard for them to sell 5k pairs with all the attention they got
So creating a product is all profit when you sell it? [emoji]129300[/emoji]
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LaVar is already saying Lonzo designed the shoes..
In the introductory video my guy.
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Lavar taking names on these critics
Really hope the Kidd going to Ball out
Really hope the Kidd going to Ball out
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This all i been saying mane..i think the disconnect is alotta ppl assume these drat picks getting super big money from the shoe companies on their deal...Unless u a Lebron cant miss type they getting anywhere from 500k to 1.5 mil, thats not even half their NBA contract..i have no problem with Baller Brand trying to do their own thing cuz they not eem passing up THAT much money to try something different, If they sell a couple thousand pairs in his rookie year he making that shoe deal money back and has something that he OWNS
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I mean Steph doesn't even move units and he's easily the most popular player amongst youngins. Peeps are coppin this as a novelty item. Once that wears off then what? Lavar can claim you gotta be bad and bougie to cop all he wants but us broke bois are ones that buy shoes in the long run.
I hope Lavar succeeds but realistically this is gonna come crashing down in the long run if his plan is to price out all the broke bois.
I hope Lavar succeeds but realistically this is gonna come crashing down in the long run if his plan is to price out all the broke bois.
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There is a bigger calling than what you seem to be seeing.
Sorry, but I disagree. Fam gotta be exceptional to develop a following in today's league with all the stars we have now. If he gets drafted by a small market team, even worse. Lavar can only troll his way to getting attention for so long. Charging 500 for em is already a flawed business model going in because you basically cut out all high school/AAU players. Hell, even 200 ain't gonna work. Like my mans said, PGs are going for 110 and KDs and Lebrons are always on sale or at the outlet.
The novelty will wear off, especially since they're not gonna ship for like seven months
People will support the cause regardless if he is lebron. Anyone with a bit of sense can see that he's not on that level by any means.
Are you saying that I said such?
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Total/number Sales is what i said but ok business man ...Anyway Big Baller Brand moving units, salute to em!He was looking round a mil a year, if that order number is indeed the number of sales then Big Ballers already surpassed that and then some in salesBig Baller Brand on the rise
Also for everybody talking bout the price this just the pre release hype prices, they already said they droppin a $200 shoe a lil later, which is still kinda steep but thats about what alotta sneakers cost these days
Companies are struggling with selling the $200 shoes to be honest.
And your math may be off with the total sales vs what companies would have given dude for endorsing.
And tbh it shouldnt be hard for them to sell 5k pairs with all the attention they got
So creating a product is all profit when you sell it? [emoji]129300[/emoji]
Sales != profit.
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D. Rose got 200 million from Adidas. Exploited or not that's faar from 500k. I can't accuse companies of not letting athletes eat who become household names. But I get the dame dash mentality.. Which is essentially what's at stake here. I hope they are successful though. They will have an easy time marketing. Inb4 dramatic black and white BALL IS LIFE. commercial.
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How do you know the shoe is doing extremely well?
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how many players impact have eclipsed da swoosh? not many at all.
i wouldn't want everyone getting that type of deal either. Nike gives that bread up when they know what time is it.
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when you da HNIC, you don't need to advertise anymore.
when da last time you seen a LV ad?
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It's a catch 22.
Nike is big because of its athletes.
Nike is Nike because of Jordan.
Yeezys are selling because of Kanye not Addidas.
I'm not sure how this all plays out but it could be a major turning point in history.
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That's kind of my point.
These young black men with influence are advertising LV for free, Ball is taking that space for HIM.
Why use your influence to sell another mans product when you can be the boss of yourself?
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Sorry but Jordan is doing very well due to Nike.
He's what 50, making millions from what he did years ago?
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One of the better answers in here. Maybe sometime soon, someome WILL come along and design a nice looking shoe, has the marketability to move units, and is a media darling; all wrapped up into one. Ball did lay down the foundation for the posibility that players could survive (and profit) without the help of The Big 3. Who knows? Wilder things have happened.
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That stuff just doesn't happen. Athletes explain how these endorsements can be a distraction from them practicing and honing their skills. Starting and running a business while trying to focus on your real career is easier said than done.
