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Originally Posted by enlightendespot
BTW this is coming from a Latino from Africa.
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Originally Posted by enlightendespot
BTW this is coming from a Latino from Africa.
Originally Posted by enlightendespot
Just needed a clarification. Your arguing the difference between african american and black american, in which i agree with you.
Moore told the audience that the Northern Europeans, “inventors of Apartheid," have traditionally feared the black person, while Europeans from the Iberian Peninsula, as well as their descendants in Latin America, have no such fear. As he put it, "in the U.S. one drop of black blood makes someone black. In Latin America one drop of white blood makes you white."
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
Originally Posted by MonStar1
Originally Posted by enlightendespot
Mon star, Black=african american? Lulz So since my dad is from a french speaking african nation and my mom is from a spanish speaking african nation that means im african and not black? Cuz we eat different foods and have different music. Lmao
Son you are TRYING WAYYYY TOO HARD. I'm not saying you aren't black. You are more than "black" you have different cultures. So you are african or whatever mix you wanna call yourself.
And Yes I have NO connection to Africa besides my skin color. I'm saying that because I'm ashamed of my roots or some BS. but most blacks in the US have the same culture as whites. If you don't wear any clothes, eat any foods, celebrate any holidays, speak a different language, etc. how can I be connected to Africa? I'm an American black. it is what it is.
So why does ninjahood call everyone else black? African Americans are no less African than he is, they both share the connection of African slaves being dumped in the Americas and they both have a lot of mixed blood
Originally Posted by MonStar1
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
Originally Posted by MonStar1
Son you are TRYING WAYYYY TOO HARD. I'm not saying you aren't black. You are more than "black" you have different cultures. So you are african or whatever mix you wanna call yourself.
And Yes I have NO connection to Africa besides my skin color. I'm saying that because I'm ashamed of my roots or some BS. but most blacks in the US have the same culture as whites. If you don't wear any clothes, eat any foods, celebrate any holidays, speak a different language, etc. how can I be connected to Africa? I'm an American black. it is what it is.
So why does ninjahood call everyone else black? African Americans are no less African than he is, they both share the connection of African slaves being dumped in the Americas and they both have a lot of mixed blood
I'm not going to argue the whole orgins of certain islands and etc. Unlike most of ya'll I'll admit I'm not knowledgeable on that area of this convo. But he feels like if you are of Latino/Hispanic bloodlines or whatever then you aren't black. I really can't say I have a problem with that.
Let's not act we don't understand that most people consider black to mean "roots from africa".
Black Americans with no real connection to Africa are still black because thats where we came from.
Africans and Africans that live in US, england, Canada, anywhere else in the world are Black too. They just have a culture they we don't.
Moore told the audience that the Northern Europeans, “inventors of Apartheid," have traditionally feared the black person, while Europeans from the Iberian Peninsula, as well as their descendants in Latin America, have no such fear. As he put it, "in the U.S. one drop of black blood makes someone black. In Latin America one drop of white blood makes you white."
Read.Originally Posted by enlightendespot
^ son are we discussing race or ethnicity? Because im sure you understand that hispanic(coming from a spanish speaking country) and latino(coming from a latin based language speaking country) are ethnicities and arent mutually exclusive from race.
Dude stop trolling, your mad annoying even without the s hun s hun bull crap.Originally Posted by Dagrandesoda
I see your on a cruedsade to try to save somebody who dont need saving. LOL at you thinking u gonna stop ppl from grilling ninja for his self hate.Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen
Originally Posted by Dagrandesoda
nobody asked him to post his personal pictures. He took it upon himself.
so? now you know him? now you got the right to pigeonhole people? G.T.F.O.H.
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Originally Posted by RufioRufioRufio
I feel bad for minorities, (im asian so we get the pass as being a model minority, smh).
Institutionalized racism causes arguments like this.
People don't realize they are feeding a cycle that keeps minorities down.
Dominant society shoves in our mind that white is good and black is bad.
Therefore you do get alot of minorities dissociating themselves from anything black.
and to touch on another point, the use of color clearly encourages a loss of identity and culture in this country.
I get into these discussions because as a therapist, culture and social justice affect people so much but often times they are unaware.
I'm gonna post a journal entry I did for my gender and ethnicity class in this thread.
Hopefully NT fam is willing to read. It reflects my experience on this whole discussion.
Yea I know what you mean in terms of Asians. My bad if you thought I was trying to separate Asians.Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
Originally Posted by RufioRufioRufio
I feel bad for minorities, (im asian so we get the pass as being a model minority, smh).
Institutionalized racism causes arguments like this.
People don't realize they are feeding a cycle that keeps minorities down.
Dominant society shoves in our mind that white is good and black is bad.
Therefore you do get alot of minorities dissociating themselves from anything black.
and to touch on another point, the use of color clearly encourages a loss of identity and culture in this country.
I get into these discussions because as a therapist, culture and social justice affect people so much but often times they are unaware.
I'm gonna post a journal entry I did for my gender and ethnicity class in this thread.
Hopefully NT fam is willing to read. It reflects my experience on this whole discussion.
Meh there are Asians that do the same, people in Thailand and India bleach their skin to look more european
It's ironic that people who don't think (no names) try to say I'm not "black" enough based on my love for white women- I'm unapologetically black-The reason why I reject Judeochristianity it because I'm African, if I died today and had a choice to be reincarnated I'd choose Ibo
Originally Posted by AKA LONGSTROKE
Read.Originally Posted by enlightendespot
^ son are we discussing race or ethnicity? Because im sure you understand that hispanic(coming from a spanish speaking country) and latino(coming from a latin based language speaking country) are ethnicities and arent mutually exclusive from race.
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Originally Posted by 0cks
Cats just don't want to be associated with Africa if they can get away with it... I have never seen a caucasian deny any European roots, there's nothing to be "ashamed" of, but you have real life trolls like
Dominicans are in complete denial of who they are.
My bad, yuku told me that you were Monstar1 in the last post. I keep getting thread doesn't exist banners as well.Originally Posted by enlightendespot
Originally Posted by AKA LONGSTROKE
Read.Originally Posted by enlightendespot
^ son are we discussing race or ethnicity? Because im sure you understand that hispanic(coming from a spanish speaking country) and latino(coming from a latin based language speaking country) are ethnicities and arent mutually exclusive from race.
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I was referring to the MonStar1 above you but since you replied, what part of my post contested anything from the article you posted? Ethnicity and race arent one in the same.
Originally Posted by JD214
Originally Posted by 0cks
Cats just don't want to be associated with Africa if they can get away with it... I have never seen a caucasian deny any European roots, there's nothing to be "ashamed" of, but you have real life trolls like�
Definitely agree with this,
Same thing with Mexicans, most of us/them claim that we/they don't have Spansh roots, but we/they do,
Spain is the Motherland. (sort of)
As are some Puerto Ricans, even many West Indians, Jamaicans, Haitians, Trinidadians, who'll suggest that they are West Indian, before being considered Black.Originally Posted by AKA LONGSTROKE
I loved that series, as it completely destroyed the racist myths in the Latin community.
My favorite quote,
Dominicans are in complete denial of who they are.
As are some Puerto Ricans, even many West Indians, Jamaicans, Haitians, Trinidadians, who'll suggest that they are West Indian, before being considered Black.Originally Posted by AKA LONGSTROKE
Dominicans are in complete denial of who they are.
Originally Posted by MonStar1
As are some Puerto Ricans, even many West Indians, Jamaicans, Haitians, Trinidadians, who'll suggest that they are West Indian, before being considered Black.Originally Posted by AKA LONGSTROKE
I loved that series, as it completely destroyed the racist myths in the Latin community.
My favorite quote,
Dominicans are in complete denial of who they are.
Originally Posted by AKA LONGSTROKE
Culturally they are West Indian. There is nothing wrong with having pride in your culture, just as northerners possessing pride in theirs versus the southern way of life.Originally Posted by MonStar1
Originally Posted by AKA LONGSTROKE
I loved that series, as it completely destroyed the racist myths in the Latin community.
My favorite quote,
As are some Puerto Ricans, even many West Indians, Jamaicans, Haitians, Trinidadians, who'll suggest that they are West Indian, before being considered Black.
Why can't West Indians be "West Indians"? We know they are "black" and they know it but if you expect people to ignore the customs and culture that makes them different than a normal american black then you are asking for a bit much. You want them all to be like "I'm black just like you." but thats not really true.
While I see your agenda about people disassociating with black for negative reasons, but I feel like only a SMALL % of people do that. The others are just embracing their own culture that makes them different.
The problem lies when people decide when they are Black, becoming Black when it is convenient.
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but you guys are just pointing fingers to feel blacker/prouder of yourselves and it's borderline bullying when it gets to the 15th thread in 12 months
There it is. I see you. I am sure that anyone with the ability to deduce can see you as well.
You're afraid, and I don't blame you. Move to the North Pole, didn't you hear? We don't like cold weather.
Originally Posted by AKA LONGSTROKE
Culturally they are West Indian. There is nothing wrong with having pride in your culture, just as northerners possessing pride in theirs versus the southern way of life.Originally Posted by MonStar1
Originally Posted by AKA LONGSTROKE
I loved that series, as it completely destroyed the racist myths in the Latin community.
My favorite quote,
As are some Puerto Ricans, even many West Indians, Jamaicans, Haitians, Trinidadians, who'll suggest that they are West Indian, before being considered Black.
Why can't West Indians be "West Indians"? We know they are "black" and they know it but if you expect people to ignore the customs and culture that makes them different than a normal american black then you are asking for a bit much. You want them all to be like "I'm black just like you." but thats not really true.
While I see your agenda about people disassociating with black for negative reasons, but I feel like only a SMALL % of people do that. The others are just embracing their own culture that makes them different.
The problem lies when people decide when they are Black, becoming Black when it is convenient.