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To my knowledge, none of the Lexus models are being recalled, just Toyota.Originally Posted by i3allistic
I''m not sure but are Toyota/Lexus that were made in the USA begin recall only? Because the FJ Cruiser was not on the list (japan made) and a few of my friends Rav4 that were made in japan was not recalled ....
Naw fam, not comparing to Daewoo I was talking about moving down ranks, but like Dirty and others have said, people will forgive and forget.Originally Posted by proper english
you cant compare Toyota to Daewoo...Originally Posted by IHeartBoost
Sales have fallen, pretty bad, Jan10 they sold 83,279 compare to Dec09 they sold 159,295 and the recall was officially announced Jan 21st, 2010. Of course I don't think Toyota is gonna go Daewoo status either but they are slippin in the ranks, at least sales/volume wise.Originally Posted by K2theAblaM
Not really. Bad PR? Yes, but not enough to drop Toyota down to those ranks just yet.Originally Posted by IHeartBoost
Right now I'm watching the LIVE Congressional committee speaking with the CEO on CSPAN. They are going in on Mr. Toyoda and Mr. Inaba. You can click here to watch it. Also news broke today that Toyota had a recall on the floor mats in the UK 10 years ago but did nothing or said anything in regards to the America market. Do you think differently of Toyota or even the Lexus brand? I've never been much of a Toyota fan (besides the Supra) but this is making other brands like [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]Hyundai, Ford, Chevy look like god sent. [/color]
Toyota's public image is too positive for this recall to completely ruin them.. word to Kobe's rape trial.
Coincidence that this started when they outsourced their vehicles to be made in other countries? hmm...Originally Posted by reigndrop
Toyota's quality has diminished in the past five years a pretty fast rate. My colleague has a meeting coming up with them next week, it'll be interesting to hear what they say..
you mad?Originally Posted by Methedy24
- I HATE Toyota; this includes but is not limited to Mr. Toyoda and his band of cronies / lying douche bags.
- I smiled when I first heard the news.
-Toyota.
Originally Posted by DublBagn
I am not going to say this is going to kill toyota, but anything thats helps with the American perception myths is a good thing in my book....
reigndrop wrote:
Toyota's quality has diminished in the past five years a pretty fast rate. My colleague has a meeting coming up with them next week, it'll be interesting to hear what they say..
Coincidence that this started when they outsourced their vehicles to be made in other countries? hmm...
What's interesting is that I haven't seen this problem widespread in Japan.
I''m not sure but are Toyota/Lexus that were made in the USA begin recall only?
Keep in mind that this is a design flaw...unless those cars were designed and built in the USA by americans I don't see how manufacturing these vehicles in different countries has anything to do with the recall.
I'm with you 100%, but I wouldn't even call it a conspiracy because it's apparent the government and the American people in general have it out for this company. A lot of people have a stake in the demise of Toyota. They are attacking Toyota's primary attributes, namely it's reputation based on quality, reliability, and devotion to customer service. It's ridiculous imo, one of the few times I've felt sorry for a corporation.Originally Posted by Inno21
Okay guys I just want to throw out a random thought that arose during a discussion with a couple of my buddies....
Do you guys think that this could be a government conspiracy? Hear me out first.
Plenty of cars are recalled every year for various reasons, everything from doors not closing properly to major issues such as this gas pedal/floor mat issues. But my major issue is that the U.S government acted with quickness with setting up these congressional hearings as a result Toyota has also taken a pretty big hit on their stock price . Since the U.S gov't does have controlling interest in General Motors, you think this could be a ploy to direct more sales towards GM away from Toyota?
I know it sounds pretty far fetched but its just a thought
Originally Posted by Mojodmonky1
Gotta agree with Dirty here. Couple of years and they will bounce back. I hope this isnt the beginning of the end cause all I got are Toyotas.
Growing up my family either had Honda/Acura's or Ford's. I think I was the first one to make the switch to Toyota ('02 4Runner) and personally I've been pretty satisfied with their cars. I was satisfied enough that me and my girl decided to stick with the brand and get her a new Lexus when it was time to get a new car. Now that I think about it though, her car '07 ES350 has had more problems in the last 3+ years than mine has had in almost 3 times that length of time.
knock on wood, but I have close to 120K miles on my truck and its a tank. Still running on my factory stock battery, no engine or mechanical problems to date, pretty much the only problems I had were cosmetic and due to user error. Hope this thing keeps tickin for atleast another 100K miles.
Italians>*Originally Posted by Kicktionair
Toyota > American?
Originally Posted by Methedy24
- It's funny you said that.
- At the end of my response I initially had "U MAD? Naw, I'm gooood!! But I deleted it
Mr.toyota touched his momOriginally Posted by Black Jesus
Originally Posted by Methedy24
- It's funny you said that.
- At the end of my response I initially had "U MAD? Naw, I'm gooood!! But I deleted it
why you hate 'em so much?
One of the few times I've ever agreed with dirty.Originally Posted by Dirtylicious
The American public has a short memory... couple of years and they'll be good to go.
While I agree with you, it also depends on how the media wants to work this... and it seems like they really want to go in on Toyota. Not to sound too much like a conspiracy theorist, but doesn't the US government have stake in GM and Chrysler? I foresee tons of "Toyota quality dropping/GMxChrysler quality rising" stories. Realistically though, the quality of Toyota compared to the US companies will probably meet in the middle.Originally Posted by Dirtylicious
The American public has a short memory... couple of years and they'll be good to go.
Dirtylicious wrote:
The American public has a short memory... couple of years and they'll be good to go.
CarolCitysFinest wrote:
only toyota i would ever own is a mkiv supra.imo the rest of toyota/lexus is not appealing.They should make toyota refund 100% of the cost of the cars that had problems.
you should've stopped posting 140-some-odd posts ago.
who is "they?" i love when people throw out these types of statements just to prove to the world that they don't think before they speak. you do realize that Toyota instituted the recall, right? and you do realize that recalls are not managed by any government agency, right? and you also realize that its almost impossible to force a company to issue an apology, let alone a refund, right? and you do realize that there have been almost no cars "that had problems," right? there have been less than 100 accidents globally and most of those people are going to sue Toyota so you can rest easy tonight knowing that they will probably get a full refund on their Yaris.
DublBagn wrote:
anything thats helps with the American perception myths is a good thing in my book....
you mind explaining to the rest of us what "the American perception myths" are? i hate to speak for you but i assume you're trying (poorly) to say that you hope this improves the relative impression of products manufactured in America/by Americans. would it change your mind if you knew that Toyotas are being manufactured in America, by Americans? how does this help America's image at all? b/c we built crappy products and they just happen to be less crappy than one line of products designed in Japan? and how are your priorities so out of whack that you actually think this is a good thing? PLEASE explain that. you are actively cheering for Americans to build products that kill other Americans - in the name of improving the world's perception about America. oh, now that i typed it out, it makes so much sense.
Inno21 wrote:
Okay guys I just want to throw out a random thought that arose during a discussion with a couple of my buddies....
Do you guys think that this could be a government conspiracy? Hear me out first.
Plenty of cars are recalled every year for various reasons, everything from doors not closing properly to major issues such as this gas pedal/floor mat issues. But my major issue is that the U.S government acted with quickness with setting up these congressional hearings as a result Toyota has also taken a pretty big hit on their stock price . Since the U.S gov't does have controlling interest in General Motors, you think this could be a ploy to direct more sales towards GM away from Toyota?
I know it sounds pretty far fetched but its just a thought
you should have kept it as just a thought. what's the conspiracy? the US government went into every Toyota plant and purposely built-in defects in the cars? okay, cause the risk-reward there is phenominal. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY INSINUATING? you think someone would actually risk their career and, probably their life, to help the government make some money? are you out of your mind? do you know how many people it would take to pull that off? you actually think Toyota would let random people go into their manufacturing plants? or has this plan been in the works for years and these hard core patriots took jobs at Toyota just waiting for the right time to kill other Americans? get real. and the biggest point you're missing is the fact that NOBODY is going to see the money that the government makes from GM stock. you swear like Obama personally owns GM or something. get out of here w/this nonsense.
IHeartBoost wrote:
i3allistic wrote:
I''m not sure but are Toyota/Lexus that were made in the USA begin recall only? Because the FJ Cruiser was not on the list (japan made) and a few of my friends Rav4 that were made in japan was not recalled ....
To my knowledge, none of the Lexus models are being recalled, just Toyota.
proper english wrote:
IHeartBoost wrote:
K2theAblaM wrote:
IHeartBoost wrote:
Right now I'm watching the LIVE Congressional committee speaking with the CEO on CSPAN. They are going in on Mr. Toyoda and Mr. Inaba. You can click here to watch it. Also news broke today that Toyota had a recall on the floor mats in the UK 10 years ago but did nothing or said anything in regards to the America market. Do you think differently of Toyota or even the Lexus brand? I've never been much of a Toyota fan (besides the Supra) but this is making other brands like Hyundai, Ford, Chevy look like god sent.
Not really. Bad PR? Yes, but not enough to drop Toyota down to those ranks just yet.
Sales have fallen, pretty bad, Jan10 they sold 83,279 compare to Dec09 they sold 159,295 and the recall was officially announced Jan 21st, 2010. Of course I don't think Toyota is gonna go Daewoo status either but they are slippin in the ranks, at least sales/volume wise.
you cant compare Toyota to Daewoo...
Toyota's public image is too positive for this recall to completely ruin them.. word to Kobe's rape trial.
Naw fam, not comparing to Daewoo I was talking about moving down ranks, but like Dirty and others have said, people will forgive and forget.
well, your knowledge is useless. the accident that is getting the most headlines INVOLVED A LEXUS - how would they not recall any Lexus models? the IS and ES350 were both recalled in October for "vehicle speed control."
Toyota is having a tough time right now, fair enough. but sales have fallen month-over-month for every major manufacturer besides GM, so your sales figures are of little value in the vaccuum you presented them in.
It's definitely ECU related. All the cars recalled have a drive-by wire system, pedal input is then translated through the ECU to the throttle body. If there's nothing going on with the pedal, then it's not the pedal's fault that the car will keep accelerating...this is definitely going to set them back, hopefully make them re-think their whole approach and maybe come at things the same way they did in the 90's. They've been taking too many shortcuts.Originally Posted by Biggie62
Originally Posted by Black Jesus
so whats really going on?....they've had a ton of recalled cars or something?
Over 8 million. And rumor is the problems aren't being fixed correctly by just fixing the acceleration pedal. People are saying it has to do with their electrical system which they refuse to acknowledge.
But I mean I'm not surprised. In 01 they announced that they wanted to double their manufacturing by 2010. Well they did it. But something done on a scale that large is bound to have efficiency and quality problems. And only thing that has kept Americans buying Japanese is their so-called "quality cars." Which is a pretty comical statement right now. Especially since the problems stem from models back in 07. Meaning they've ignored the problem for 4 years now.