Where should woman draw the line?

[blakep267]

I mean, on paper it may seem like she is being a gold digger, but I also look at it on the other hand. Most people have had people who have crushes on them etc. But say the other person is unattractive. Would it be wrong to ignore them while they are ugly or chunky, but then once they get their s&^% together and idk lose alot of weight or start dressing better, then show them the time of day? I dont think there is anything wrong with that. At the time, they werent appealing, now this person is. If a girl I knew in HS was fat, but now 5 years later she s sexy, Im not going to feel bad for ignoring her then, and approaching her now.

 

[levar burton]

Her (left) and him (right), said trip to New York. The guy screwed up the whole evening and trip.

 

[levar burton]

Originally Posted by blakep267

I mean, on paper it may seem like she is being a gold digger, but I also look at it on the other hand. Most people have had people who have crushes on them etc. But say the other person is unattractive. Would it be wrong to ignore them while they are ugly or chunky, but then once they get their s&^% together and idk lose alot of weight or start dressing better, then show them the time of day? I dont think there is anything wrong with that. At the time, they werent appealing, now this person is. If a girl I knew in HS was fat, but now 5 years later she s sexy, Im not going to feel bad for ignoring her then, and approaching her now.

 ALL OF THIS

But seriously, we feel bad when women do it to us so why are we felt entitled to do it to them?

 

[Sir San Diego]

OP, you're hearing her side of the story, but there's no way you know all of the details. Obviously she's going to present her side in a light that makes her look like the victim.

You don't know what went on behind closed doors or what he had to endure in order for her to support him in that way. Maybe he had enough and planned his escape. Who knows?

As for where women should draw the line, that all depends on what they are looking for. I can't be mad at a woman who doesn't want to be with a broke man. At the same time though, they shouldn't get a broke man and complain about him being broke or expect him to change to fit their ideal situation. If everything is clear from the jump with expectations and they don't change those expectations in the middle of a relationship, how can anyone be mad?

 

[jayhood23]

Why don't you comfort her with sex? Oh yea and where are the pics

 

[milestailsprowe]

Originally Posted by Levar Burton


Her (left) and him (right), said trip to New York. The guy screwed up the whole evening and trip.

Window or middle seat?
And now that I think about it. There should be more to this story

 

[Peep Game]

Originally Posted by Levar Burton

Originally Posted by Faint Dj3

 If one of her main attributes she's looking for in a mate is lots of money....she's a gold digger and yes you can blame her.

She owns a house in "The Hills" which she purchased with her earnings, drives a 2012 3 Series and holds a MBA in Economics. 

Tell her she needs to re-evaluate her own life and stop looking for someone else to validate it with THEIR bank account.

Her ex-boyfriend worked at Best Buy (entry level), the current ex-boyfriend bused tables and cleaned real estate before getting his license. She paid for it. 

 She needs to learn/grow her own wealth then she wouldn't worry about what someone else bringing to the damn table.
She supported the guy against her friend's judgement and never complained about his economic status.


...like I said, she literally did everything a guy can ask for. She's also constantly pursued by magazines and nightclubs to model, she isn't ugly by far.
Where are these types of women supposed to draw the line?

Based on this, I'm actually confused. So was the chick not down for dude when he was broke or not?? Sounds like the dude just 
mooched off her until he got himself together.

 

[jayhood23]

Originally Posted by milestailsprowe

Originally Posted by Levar Burton


Her (left) and him (right), said trip to New York. The guy screwed up the whole evening and trip.

Window or middle seat?
And now that I think about it. There should be more to this story

Son just looks like a douche

 

[retro23j]

Originally Posted by JayHood23

Originally Posted by milestailsprowe



And now that I think about it. There should be more to this story

Son just looks like a douche

 

[yobyellav]

Like cap said, he was looking to upgrade. Why do it after you've been together for 3 years and once you have made junior partner if you are not? It doesn't make sense. I would have just said this isn't working out. Bye. (I do my best not to lie.)

 

[deuce king]

When asked why she was dumped his response was:

 "I feel I can't trust you, you didn't want me I was broke. In fact you ignored me on a few occasion before we even dated.

I applaud the guy for realizing his self worth and dropping the chick if she wasn't as thorough at times as you have portrayed her to be. 

 

[peteweezy]

Originally Posted by cap1229

This is why I'm so against dating dudes that aren't about there money.

if I'm about my money you better be about it too. Whatever it is you do you better be about it. If they aren't about it then dude can feel emasculated if you help out too much and all this extra #+!% and get his ego bruised xyzzzz

. %#%# that. Lol let him be man.

I don't think it's always the guy feeling insecure. As soon as a chick gets mad in the scenario you say with a girl making more they try to rub it in and make you feel bad about yourself as a man. I find that funny cause if a guy does it to a chick a lot of them will say things like I don't care about your money when I don't believe that for a second. Women care about that more than guys. Most guys are like do you look good, not get on my nerves, not stupid we good to go for the most part. 

 

[dimelo]

OP be trollin

 

[crazy dav0]

cap got it right ... he used her, came up in the world and is ready to upgrade ... simple as that


grimey but it happens all the times

 

[cap1229]

Originally Posted by Peteweezy

Originally Posted by cap1229

This is why I'm so against dating dudes that aren't about there money.

if I'm about my money you better be about it too. Whatever it is you do you better be about it. If they aren't about it then dude can feel emasculated if you help out too much and all this extra #+!% and get his ego bruised xyzzzz

. %#%# that. Lol let him be man.

I don't think it's always the guy feeling insecure. As soon as a chick gets mad in the scenario you say with a girl making more they try to rub it in and make you feel bad about yourself as a man. I find that funny cause if a guy does it to a chick a lot of them will say things like I don't care about your money when I don't believe that for a second. Women care about that more than guys. Most guys are like do you look good, not get on my nerves, not stupid we good to go for the most part. 

and that is wrong. i agree. women shouldn't belittle men in that way verbally but that's what they are thinking( if they say it when mad and know it will hit that spot).  They are probably hoping the guy will change but you can't change people. people change themselves FOR THEMSELVES. by dating down she put herself in this situation. He should haven't played into it but he did and benefited by doing his time and has moved on.

 

[beh235]

I can't see pics of said people, but OP what is a reality firm?

. (spelling is my pet peeve smh, and I won't be grammar police). Possible p4l.

 

[fly23s]

Relationship y so complicated

 

[levar burton]

A reply from CEO of J.P. Morgan to a pretty girl seeking a rich husband

A young and pretty lady posted this on a popular forum: 

Title: What should I do to marry a rich guy? 

... I'm going to be honest of what I'm going to say here. 

I'm 25 this year. I'm very pretty, have style and good taste. I wish to marry a guy with $500k annual salary or above. 

You might say that I'm greedy, but an annual salary of $1M is considered only as middle class in New York. 

My requirement is not high. Is there anyone in this forum who has an income of $500k annual salary? Are you all married? 

I wanted to ask: what should I do to marry rich persons like you? 

Among those I've dated, the richest is $250k annual income, and it seems that this is my upper limit. 

If someone is going to move into high cost residential area on the west of New York City Garden(?), $250k annual income is not enough. 

I'm here humbly to ask a few questions: 
1) Where do most rich bachelors hang out? (Please list down the names and addresses of bars, restaurant, gym) 
2) Which age group should I target? 
3) Why most wives of the riches are only average-looking? I've met a few girls who don't have looks and are not interesting, but they are able to marry rich guys. 

4) How do you decide who can be your wife, and who can only be your girlfriend? (my target now is to get married) 

Ms. Pretty 

A philosophical reply from CEO of J.P. Morgan: 

Dear Ms. Pretty, 
I have read your post with great interest. Guess there are lots of girls out there who have similar questions like yours. Please allow me to analyse your situation as a professional investor. 

My annual income is more than $500k, which meets your requirement, so I hope everyone believes that I'm not wasting time here. 

From the standpoint of a business person, it is a bad decision to marry you. The answer is very simple, so let me explain. 

Put the details aside, what you're trying to do is an exchange of "beauty" and "money" : Person A provides beauty, and Person B pays for it, fair and square. 

However, there's a deadly problem here, your beauty will fade, but my money will not be gone without any good reason. The fact is, my income might increase from year to year, but you can't be prettier year after year. 

Hence from the viewpoint of economics, I am an appreciation asset, and you are a depreciation asset. It's not just normal depreciation, but exponential depreciation. If that is your only asset, your value will be much worse 10 years later. 

By the terms we use in Wall Street, every trading has a position, dating with you is also a "trading position". 
If the trade value dropped we will sell it and it is not a good idea to keep it for long term - same goes with the marriage that you wanted. It might be cruel to say this, but in order to make a wiser decision any assets with great depreciation value will be sold or "leased". 

Anyone with over $500k annual income is not a fool; we would only date you, but will not marry you. I would advice that you forget looking for any clues to marry a rich guy. And by the way, you could make yourself to become a rich person with $500k annual income.This has better chance than finding a rich fool.

Hope this reply helps. 

signed, 
J.P. Morgan CEO

 

[mytmouse76]

That dumb +%% letter again

Like mentioned he used her for a come up. Happens every day.

To answer your question OP I think it depends where the woman is in her life. You can't be a college junior demanding your man is already making 6 figures.

If you're already established in your career it makes sense you'd want the same or as close to it as possible in your partner.

 

[levar burton]

Originally Posted by mytmouse76

 You can't be a college junior demanding your man is already making 6 figures.

If you're already established in your career it makes sense you'd want the same or as close to it as possible in your partner.

So if you deny a guy a chance cause he doesn't look like he meets those requirements are you wrong?  Or are you entitled to have these digressions?

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Wrong? No. You are entitled to ask for whatever you want. Now it might be illogical but there is no right or wrong in this situation. If a NCAA Jr. wants a man with 6 Figures, she has that right to want whatever she wants. It might be a stupid desire and unrealistic, but she can want it. She isn't wrong for that.

 

[levar burton]

As I said in the OP, I felt where the guy was coming from but I mean she helped him get to where he is. She literally made him a better person, why bail on her after you feel secure and waste 3 years of someone's life?

 

[jmb1523]

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Wrong? No. You are entitled to ask for whatever you want. Now it might be illogical but there is no right or wrong in this situation. If a NCAA Jr. wants a man with 6 Figures, she has that right to want whatever she wants. It might be a stupid desire and unrealistic, but she can want it. She isn't wrong for that.

But shouldnt they realize its stupid and unrealistic?  I see chicks on twitter and other social networks talking bout they want a man to spend money them, and broke guys make them sick.  I aint even talking dime chicks, Im talking bout 4s and 5s man.

 

[chao]

Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Wrong? No. You are entitled to ask for whatever you want. Now it might be illogical but there is no right or wrong in this situation. If a NCAA Jr. wants a man with 6 Figures, she has that right to want whatever she wants. It might be a stupid desire and unrealistic, but she can want it. She isn't wrong for that.

Agreed, DC...actually, let me harp on that for a second:

A lot of dudes are really harsh on women for even saying that they want to be with a guy who can support them. Thing is, I don't think most of those women are saying they need some dude who makes millions of dollars, has a mansion, and will let them go on shopping sprees every day. Most (not all, I'm aware there are gold diggers, guys) of them would just love to be able to one day become full-time stay at home moms and take care of the household without also having to deal with a career. They also don't try to hide it from their prospective future husbands. It's just something they want to be able to do in a relationship and what would make them happy.

The same line of logic can be applied to what a guy wants. I've seen so many dudes get guilt tripped into thinking that wanting whatever girl you're dating to be physically beautiful/cute in your eyes is "shallow". It's not "shallow", and neither is a girl wanting what I just listed. Unless you're just gonna use a female for sex or want her strictly in the sense that you can go show her off as arm candy, I don't understand what the problem is. Ladies, do you really want to go out with some dude who DOESN'T think you're gorgeous? Dude is gonna be ashamed to be seen with you, or at the very least is gonna make the relationship terrible because he felt like he settled for you instead of some girl he really wanted.

Point being, let's stop this gender hate and realize that the vast majority of people don't actively seek to use and abuse the opposite gender and add nothing to their lives.

 

[ill legal operation]

Originally Posted by Levar Burton


Her (left) and him (right), said trip to New York. The guy screwed up the whole evening and trip.

%**+! is wack...

...I'da bounced too.