:: Why are drugs illegal but abortions aren't? ::

[speakdatruf]

Ok hear this out first. Abortions are legal for a lot of reasons, one of the most common arguments being that a woman has the right to do whatever she wantswith her body and nobody can tell her otherwise.

According to that logic, certain types of drugs that have little effect on others (ex marijuana) should be legalized since, well, nobody has a right to tellyou what you can do with your body.

I know that there are a lot of other reasons why abortion is legal, but the phrase "pro-choice" implies the right to choose what you do with yourbody (more specifically the baby)

Anybody else got any thoughts on this?

 

[derek916]

 

[nomadicsole21]

Yes and No

 

[njstress03]

the world just doesnt make sense. (shrugs shoulders)

 

[rexanglorum]

I agree with you. I am pro choice on abortion and I am pro choice on a lot of other things, including drug use.

Bans on drug use are the same as bans on abortion, attempts to force people into conforming to a lifestyle that the society deemed ideal at the time that lawwas made. I suppose the difference is that abortion legalization has had a much more disciplined and focused movement behind it and drug legalization is onlybeginning to get a cohesive and disciplined voice.

 

[its that dude]

You're not killing a person when you have an abortion.

but weed FTW though.

women's reproductive rights FTW too.

 

[ericberry14]

Originally Posted by Rexanglorum

I agree with you. I am pro choice on abortion and I am pro choice on a lot of other things, including drug use.

Bans on drug use are the same as bans on abortion, attempts to force people into conforming to a lifestyle that the society deemed ideal at the time that law was made. I suppose the difference is that abortion legalization has had a much more disciplined and focused movement behind it and drug legalization is only beginning to get a cohesive and disciplined voice.

ony marijuana is getting a cohesive & disciplined voice... most people have the sense to realize that things likt extascy/heroin/crystalmeth/cocaine/crack cocaine should be illegal

 

[Senoj]

When you come up with a resolution to drug trade, cartels, overdoses etc. then let us know.

 

[Jordan8]

Because abortions dont kill people

 

[speakdatruf]

Originally Posted by Adidas Freak

When you come up with a resolution to drug trade, cartels, overdoses etc. then let us know.

legalize it.

 

[651akathepaul]

Because most women that opt for abortion are those who would be single or crackhead mothers who are unable to raise a child which, in essence, would mostlikely add to the drug problem.

 

[xxtowrxx]

Move to CA and get your club card ....

 

[wj4]

Originally Posted by Its That Dude

You're not killing a person when you have an abortion.

but weed FTW though.

women's reproductive rights FTW too.

Yep. There are different stages that decide when it's actually a 'person' or not. Abortion is fine before the 2nd stage, after the3rd or 4th month I believe.

 

[rexanglorum]

ericberry14 wrote:

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Originally Posted by Rexanglorum

I agree with you. I am pro choice on abortion and I am pro choice on a lot of other things, including drug use.

Bans on drug use are the same as bans on abortion, attempts to force people into conforming to a lifestyle that the society deemed ideal at the time that law was made. I suppose the difference is that abortion legalization has had a much more disciplined and focused movement behind it and drug legalization is only beginning to get a cohesive and disciplined voice.

ony marijuana is getting a cohesive & disciplined voice... most people have the sense to realize that things likt extascy/heroin/crystal meth/cocaine/crack cocaine should be illegal




You are right that marijuana currently is making the most progress in getting its self legalized or decriminalized.

You are wrong to equate sense with keeping everything else illegal. The negative effects of keeping prohibition alive are far worse than the negative effectsassociated with taking any of those drugs you named. The war on drugs and the black market it creates causes needless numbers of death, incarceration andpoverty all across this country and especially in America's poorest communities. On top of that, it is hard to say that you are protecting the drug userhimself by fining him, throwing him in a government run dungeon and seizing his property. Is preventing someone from getting high worth all of the cost inblood and treasure and liberty associated with waging this costly, bloody and pointless "war on drugs"?

 

[thehbkid]

the banning of drugs started in canada when opium was huge in the west coast by chinese immigrants. it lured many white girls and in exchange for sex, theywould receive opium and this caused a disruption in communities. so theres a big part as to how it started to become illegal, it was originally to stop chinesemen from reproducing with white women. Laws 1000 ftw

 

[mr monday niight]

Originally Posted by theHBkid

the banning of drugs started in canada when opium was huge in the west coast by chinese immigrants. it lured many white girls and in exchange for sex, they would receive opium and this caused a disruption in communities. so theres a big part as to how it started to become illegal, it was originally to stop chinese men from reproducing with white women. Laws 1000 ftw

Link to back this claim up?

 

[nako xl]

Originally Posted by Rexanglorum

ericberry14 wrote:

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Originally Posted by Rexanglorum

I agree with you. I am pro choice on abortion and I am pro choice on a lot of other things, including drug use.

Bans on drug use are the same as bans on abortion, attempts to force people into conforming to a lifestyle that the society deemed ideal at the time that law was made. I suppose the difference is that abortion legalization has had a much more disciplined and focused movement behind it and drug legalization is only beginning to get a cohesive and disciplined voice.

ony marijuana is getting a cohesive & disciplined voice... most people have the sense to realize that things likt extascy/heroin/crystal meth/cocaine/crack cocaine should be illegal

You are right that marijuana currently is making the most progress in getting its self legalized or decriminalized.

You are wrong to equate sense with keeping everything else illegal. The negative effects of keeping prohibition alive are far worse than the negative effects associated with taking any of those drugs you named. The war on drugs and the black market it creates causes needless numbers of death, incarceration and poverty all across this country and especially in America's poorest communities. On top of that, it is hard to say that you are protecting the drug user himself by fining him, throwing him in a government run dungeon and seizing his property. Is preventing someone from getting high worth all of the cost in blood and treasure and liberty associated with waging this costly, bloody and pointless "war on drugs"?

while a logical argument, people are foolish if they think legalizing drugs will eliminate the black market or the crime associated with it.

as long as competition exists there'll be a black market.

 

[rexanglorum]

Nako XL wrote:

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Originally Posted by Rexanglorum

ericberry14 wrote:

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Originally Posted by Rexanglorum

I agree with you. I am pro choice on abortion and I am pro choice on a lot of other things, including drug use.

Bans on drug use are the same as bans on abortion, attempts to force people into conforming to a lifestyle that the society deemed ideal at the time that law was made. I suppose the difference is that abortion legalization has had a much more disciplined and focused movement behind it and drug legalization is only beginning to get a cohesive and disciplined voice.

ony marijuana is getting a cohesive & disciplined voice... most people have the sense to realize that things likt extascy/heroin/crystal meth/cocaine/crack cocaine should be illegal

You are right that marijuana currently is making the most progress in getting its self legalized or decriminalized.

You are wrong to equate sense with keeping everything else illegal. The negative effects of keeping prohibition alive are far worse than the negative effects associated with taking any of those drugs you named. The war on drugs and the black market it creates causes needless numbers of death, incarceration and poverty all across this country and especially in America's poorest communities. On top of that, it is hard to say that you are protecting the drug user himself by fining him, throwing him in a government run dungeon and seizing his property. Is preventing someone from getting high worth all of the cost in blood and treasure and liberty associated with waging this costly, bloody and pointless "war on drugs"?

while a logical argument, people are foolish if they think legalizing drugs will eliminate the black market or the crime associated with it.

as long as competition exists there'll be a black market.




By definition, a black market is one that operates outside of the law. The only way a black market can exist after legalization is if there were some verylarge tax on narcotics that would drive the price far above what could be had on the black market.

As long as drugs were legal to sell, even if heavily regulated, it is unlikely that there would be much violence on the part of drug sellers. Just like Casinoowners and liquor store owners do not usually shoot it out with competitors, nor would the people who would be selling narcotics in their corner stores.

 

[idealapotheosis]

I understand rape victims and if the mother would be in danger from birthing the child as reasons to allow abortion. I do believe that it should be regulatedsomehow, so that every Tom and Jane don't decide 3 months in that "Oh I lost my job and can't support a kid, ABORT"

A child is a life long investment. Why would anyone want to bring a child into a world that they aren't prepared to provide?

Also, as a side, a kid that a parent can't afford costs the taxpayer a crap load of cash. It's cheaper to offer a up front one time abortion optionthan pay to raise a child who wasn't wanted in the first place.

 

[dajoka004]

Originally Posted by cartune

Because abortions dont kill people

Surprised everyone stayed clear of this. But I agree with you.

 

[cool hand Luka]

so you guys wouldnt mind driving with these people on pcp all around you, driving with people around you that are drunk is bad enough... lets be serious now...no problem with legalizing green, but drugs like x and pcp....

 

[tbone95860]

Originally Posted by cartune

Because abortions dont kill people

Yes they do

That baby you kill could be the next Barack Obama..... but you didn't want to have your "mistake"

 

[miketysonthekiller]

Originally Posted by TBONE95860

Originally Posted by cartune

Because abortions dont kill people

Yes they do

That baby you kill could be the next Barack Obama..... but you didn't want to have your "mistake"

no they don't

 

[drsfinest72]

i regret letting my ex wifey get an abortion. i feel so horrible son. i dont feel like a man for letting her do it. so thats why im against abortion from nowon. and drugs & abortions is in two completely different category.

 

[rko2004]

Originally Posted by TBONE95860

Originally Posted by cartune

Because abortions dont kill people

Yes they do

That baby you kill could be the next Barack Obama..... but you didn't want to have your "mistake"

TBone I like you.

Abortions are a touchy subject. I don't agree with them on the surface cause of people trying to cover their mistakes. When it involves rape, it really istouchy

. But as for people covering for their mistakes, I totallydisagree. Take responsibility like you did when engaging in the act.