Worst Divison in Baseball?

Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN

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@ the Mariners & Rangers being solid teams. Thanks for that, I needed a good laugh.
I can't believe someone who follows a team that just barely won 90 games and is in a division where the rest of the teams either hovered around .500 or were below it is this cocky.
 
Originally Posted by JumpmanJordanAddict89

Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN

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@ the Mariners & Rangers being solid teams. Thanks for that, I needed a good laugh.

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Mariners & Rangers > your fav team
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Btw the Giants suck balls
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Originally Posted by Th3RealF0lkBlu3s

Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN

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@ the Mariners & Rangers being solid teams. Thanks for that, I needed a good laugh.
I can't believe someone who follows a team that just barely won 90 games and is in a division where the rest of the teams either hovered around .500 or were below it is this cocky.
It was a down year for the NL Central last year, but that's not the norm and you know it. No ones being cocky either so gtfohwtbs
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Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN

Originally Posted by Stringer Bell 32

Its not the AL West people

Yes it is Stringer.
I understand your point about the past, but you have to think currently. It is not currently the AL West, it is the AL Central. That division is loaded with garbage and one team will be lucky enough to get a spot in the Playoffs by default.
 
As of RIGHT NOW on paper the angels aren't anything to brag about in the AL West.

The Rangers and mariners are very solid.

I have no clue what the A's are doing so I'd go with either the AL West or AL Central.

This is just on paper, I'm sure there will be surprises and maybe the A's and Royals win 80+ games. That's why i love baseball
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first b0rn, wow, bro, you are way off base. why aren't the mariners and rangers solid teams? please explain. better yet, DON'T, because you can't.
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Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN

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@ the Mariners & Rangers being solid teams. Thanks for that, I needed a good laugh.
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What have your pathetic Rangers ever accomplished...really? The only team even worth mentioning in that division is the Angels and they sucked until 2002. The A's give away talent like it's going out of style. The Mariners, don't get me started on that organization. That whole division is one big joke
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What does anything the Rangers have done in the past have to do with what they are right now? What does the A's giving away talent in the past have anything to do with the load of young talent they have right now? What does the Mariners past have anything to do with what they are right now?

Sorry, this isn't the worst division in baseball right now.
 
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FIRST B0RN wrote:

Anyone saying the NL Central needs to gtfohwtbs! It's easily the AL West. The Cardinals, Cubs and Milwaukee (Though I hate to say it) are in a dog fight for the division. Houston was there for a bit, but you have 3 teams fighting for that division every season. It's not long before the Reds will be in it too. Yes the Pirates are a lock for the cellar every year, but that's just a given.

I disagree.

The Central is the weakest division in the NL.

How can you call that division a dog fight?  The Cards went up 10 games in August and never looked back.

I'm not going to talk about which division has been the strongest/weakest in the last decade just going into this year.

The Cubs imploded last year, the Brewers never really challenged and didn't even finish with a .500 record, the Reds, Astros and Pirates were all garbage last season.

On top of that, the Cubs didn't really improve (*not many teams did this season if you look around, except for the Mariners), the Brewers biggest addition is Randy Wolf, which could blow up in their face (Breakout year in his mid 30's and always injury prone ), the Reds, Astros and Pirates don't look dramatically improved either.

I just don't see how the AL West is the weakest coming into this season with the Angels still being competitive, the Rangers will reap the benefits of that farm system much like we did in 2008, and the M's are easily the most improved team in baseball.

What have your pathetic Rangers Brewers ever accomplished...really? The only team even worth mentioning in that division is the Angels Cardinals. The A's Pirates and Reds give away talent like it's going out of style. The Mariners Cubs, don't get me started on that organization. That whole division is one big joke
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  Just sayin' *shrugs*
 
Originally Posted by ooIRON MANoo

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FIRST B0RN wrote:

Anyone saying the NL Central needs to gtfohwtbs! It's easily the AL West. The Cardinals, Cubs and Milwaukee (Though I hate to say it) are in a dog fight for the division. Houston was there for a bit, but you have 3 teams fighting for that division every season. It's not long before the Reds will be in it too. Yes the Pirates are a lock for the cellar every year, but that's just a given.

I disagree.

The Central is the weakest division in the NL.

How can you call that division a dog fight?  The Cards went up 10 games in August and never looked back.

I'm not going to talk about which division has been the strongest/weakest in the last decade just going into this year.

The Cubs imploded last year, the Brewers never really challenged and didn't even finish with a .500 record, the Reds, Astros and Pirates were all garbage last season.

On top of that, the Cubs didn't really improve (*not many teams did this season if you look around, except for the Mariners), the Brewers biggest addition is Randy Wolf, which could blow up in their face (Breakout year in his mid 30's and always injury prone ), the Reds, Astros and Pirates don't look dramatically improved either.

I just don't see how the AL West is the weakest coming into this season with the Angels still being competitive, the Rangers will reap the benefits of that farm system much like we did in 2008, and the M's are easily the most improved team in baseball.

What have your pathetic Rangers Brewers ever accomplished...really? The only team even worth mentioning in that division is the Angels Cardinals. The A's Pirates and Reds give away talent like it's going out of style. The Mariners Cubs, don't get me started on that organization. That whole division is one big joke
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  Just sayin' *shrugs*

i agree 
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a giant and dodger fan agreeing on somethin
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my vote still goes for either Central division

Cubs are a mid 80's win kinda team

Ted Lilly gone til June

That core of Soraino/Lee/ Ramirez another year older

the blackhole at 2B

unproven closer situation

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Originally Posted by ooIRON MANoo

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FIRST B0RN wrote:

Anyone saying the NL Central needs to gtfohwtbs! It's easily the AL West. The Cardinals, Cubs and Milwaukee (Though I hate to say it) are in a dog fight for the division. Houston was there for a bit, but you have 3 teams fighting for that division every season. It's not long before the Reds will be in it too. Yes the Pirates are a lock for the cellar every year, but that's just a given.

I disagree.

The Central is the weakest division in the NL.

How can you call that division a dog fight?  The Cards went up 10 games in August and never looked back.

I'm not going to talk about which division has been the strongest/weakest in the last decade just going into this year.

The Cubs imploded last year, the Brewers never really challenged and didn't even finish with a .500 record, the Reds, Astros and Pirates were all garbage last season.

On top of that, the Cubs didn't really improve (*not many teams did this season if you look around, except for the Mariners), the Brewers biggest addition is Randy Wolf, which could blow up in their face (Breakout year in his mid 30's and always injury prone ), the Reds, Astros and Pirates don't look dramatically improved either.

I just don't see how the AL West is the weakest coming into this season with the Angels still being competitive, the Rangers will reap the benefits of that farm system much like we did in 2008, and the M's are easily the most improved team in baseball.

What have your pathetic Rangers Brewers ever accomplished...really? The only team even worth mentioning in that division is the Angels Cardinals. The A's Pirates and Reds give away talent like it's going out of style. The Mariners Cubs, don't get me started on that organization. That whole division is one big joke
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  Just sayin' *shrugs*

Cubs had three or four guys who had possibly the worst season of their careers last year.  You expect those players to come back strong. You don't clean house.
 
Looks like a lot of you homers got your panties in a bunch from me stating the truth. First off the Rangers and Mariners aren't solid teams. Don't give me that bs about "right now", it's February  and every team is only able to be judged on paper. These conversations can only be truly observed at the end of a season. Let's face it Mariners & Rangers fans, your teams haven't been relevant in the last decade. How many playoff games have either one of you guys won in the 2000's? The Mariners won 4 playoff games in the entire decade, that's definitely a solid club
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. Lets take a look at the Rangers, a team that hasn't been relevant since the 90's. The A's are the biggest choking team in the postseason. What's the streak again A's fans?
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That leaves the Angels, a team that is the definition of solid team and that my friends is the definition of the weakest division in baseball. Sounds to me like a lot of you guys are talking in "potential" terms for the new season. If that's the case, well then nobody really knows because this season is yet to be played.

I don't think the AL Central is the weakest division because the Twins, White Sox and Tigers all have been all competitive recently. I am not talking about 1 single season, I am talking about overall in recent history. The Twins haven't been to the World Series, however they are always in a fight for their division. The White Sox won the world Series and the Tigers appeared in the World Series. Yes the Royals are the divisions weak link, but there always seems to be 1 in each division.

ooIRON MANoo you're entitled to your opinion, but I personally feel the NL West isn't stronger than the Central, it's about even. This year will tell a new tale of who the weakest division in all of baseball is. In the recent decade is what I based my opinion off of.
 
Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN

Looks like a lot of you homers got your panties in a bunch from me stating the truth. First off the Rangers and Mariners aren't solid teams. Don't give me that bs about "right now", it's February  and every team is only able to be judged on paper. These conversations can only be truly observed at the end of a season. Let's face it Mariners & Rangers fans, your teams haven't been relevant in the last decade. How many playoff games have either one of you guys won in the 2000's? The Mariners won 4 playoff games in the entire decade, that's definitely a solid club
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. Lets take a look at the Rangers, a team that hasn't been relevant since the 90's. The A's are the biggest choking team in the postseason. What's the streak again A's fans?
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That leaves the Angels, a team that is the definition of solid team and that my friends is the definition of the weakest division in baseball. Sounds to me like a lot of you guys are talking in "potential" terms for the new season. If that's the case, well then nobody really knows because this season is yet to be played.

I don't think the AL Central is the weakest division because the Twins, White Sox and Tigers all have been all competitive recently. I am not talking about 1 single season, I am talking about overall in recent history. The Twins haven't been to the World Series, however they are always in a fight for their division. The White Sox won the world Series and the Tigers appeared in the World Series. Yes the Royals are the divisions weak link, but there always seems to be 1 in each division.

ooIRON MANoo you're entitled to your opinion, but I personally feel the NL West isn't stronger than the Central, it's about even. This year will tell a new tale of who the weakest division in all of baseball is. In the recent decade is what I based my opinion off of.
What are you talking about, clown?
 
Originally Posted by Th3RealF0lkBlu3s

Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN

The A's are the biggest choking team in the postseason. What's the streak again A's fans?
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 In the recent decade is what I based my opinion off of.
What are you talking about, clown?
Nice personal attack, maybe you should step your reading and comprehension up
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If you're talking about over the last decade, fine...

But the AL West wasn't the worst division last year and it doesn't look like it'll be this year, either... I wasn't talking about the past... I'm talking about NOW, and I think everybody but you was too...
 
I am with First Born on this one.

The Rangers have a pretty good offense, but their success will be based on Rich Harden staying healthy and Scott Feldman proving last year wasnt a fluke. I wouldnt hold my breath on either of those two.

And the Mariners? Very good 1-2 in the rotation. Doesnt mean the team is good. The offense isnt very good.

If all things come together for both teams, I will be eating my words. I wouldnt count on it though.
 
Originally Posted by dland24

I am with First Born on this one.

The Rangers have a pretty good offense, but their success will be based on Rich Harden staying healthy and Scott Feldman proving last year wasnt a fluke. I wouldnt hold my breath on either of those two.

And the Mariners? Very good 1-2 in the rotation. Doesnt mean the team is good. The offense isnt very good.

If all things come together for both teams, I will be eating my words. I wouldnt count on it though.
You guys are just off. M's have one of the best defenses in baseball. A solid rotation. Rangers have a balanced club.

First Born, you sound like a guy who doesn't know sports when you say things like "what has ___ done this decade?" What does that have to do with 2010? Nothing. In any case, I have taken this down and will quote come July.
 
Originally Posted by WearinTheFourFive

The A's were in the ALCS in 06, if that matters.

so were the tigers...so no, it doesn't matter

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Originally Posted by finnns2003

First Born, you sound like a guy who doesn't know sports when you say things like "what has ___ done this decade?"
You're absolutely right, baseball isn't a sport about history. Baseball isn't a sport when you accumulate past seasons (recent may I add too) to form the true definition of what defines a sold team. This has nothing to do with a team that I put on a chopping block being your favorite team. This has everything to do with I sound like a guy who doesn't know sports.
 
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