Yo NT! Me and my Pops just got fired Vol: FeelsBatman

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I probably would've quit too but it was a bad idea to go off like that. I mean, it's easier said than done to keep your cool if you feel like your dad's been disrespected but it would've been a lot better just to tell them you don't feel comfortable working there anymore or something.

It's not as bad because it was only part-time but you never wanna burn bridges like that. Experience, references and having been a good employee is real important for future job prospects. If a new employer checks with them and finds out what went down, that could be a dealbreaker.
 
You were definitely in the wrong on multiple accounts. First of all, NEVER burn a bridge like that. You might need to put that on a future job application and you just burned that bridge hard and showed them your true character. They will go on no matter what. You didn't really do anything besides getting rid of a reference and the income. Secondly, If the union is still able to do anything for your dad then he could be back in a job and you have no way of helping him our anymore so you would have made the job that much more difficult for him.

If you were bent on helping your dad you should have stayed at the job and helped out with expenses while he goes to look for another job. Even when he does find a new one he likely won't be making the same as he was at this one. While the desire to support your dad is admirable, you just showed a lot of immaturity in the way you handled the whole situation.
 
honestly sounds like you were next. regime changes on the job are cold blooded like that
 
PowerBallin said:
Selling out?
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Keep it real your father is a Porter....ya'll need that money.
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So I walked into the manager's office, and I cursed out both the manager and super. I let them have it. I felt like Joe Pesci dropping so many F-Bombs. In the heat of the moment, I was so caught up that I let my emotions get the best of me.

I think what I did was right to a certain extent. But my friend is telling me that I should have stayed. I told him I can't stay at the same job where they just fired my dad, that's not the environment I would wanna work in.


So what would you have done NT?

BTW, sorry for the long read, just venting.
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Experienced in HR they expected some of you to respond in that matter, and believe there was preemptive measures in place.. They were just letting you vent, 15 years is a long time as a porter though. Your father should have took that as a sign they found no real value in him as an employee and been expected to be canned 14 years prior.

If they wanted to be pricks about it, they could have alerted the authorities and had you removed or pressed charges.


It happens to the best of us, which is why I'd NEVER work for anyone ever again, I just don't see the logic in someone having the power over my financial well-being. I'm self-employed and my services are infallible sources of income for me, if I don't make any money it's because I'm not being as resourceful and efficient as I should, two things that would get you canned from a job anyway.


2012+ are definitely the perfect opportune time for you and your dad to erect your own business, possibly create an industry of your own, while the country's current financial system is antiquated and looking for ways  revive itself.



 
 
StillIn729 said:
Sadly when new management takes over this happens a lot
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i know a guy.............all his co workers got fired an they only kept him on board.

he had the most senority at this luxury condo place in my town. maintenance guy or w/e dont know his exact title.

upkeep of the property basically
 
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Mark Antony said:
Didn't Powerballin post himself decked out in a footlocker uniform?
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I don't know but wth is wrong with that guy? Just pure negative energy. Needs to get banned.

Op If you feel what u did was right, then it was right. Keep pushing forward, use it as motivation to find better opportunities for you and your fam. Good luck!
 
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Jordman23 said:
Yea a porter in a High Rise Luxury Condo, he had worked over 15 years in. If you are from NYC/NJ area, you'd know they get paid relatively well especially since every year they get a raise. He was making close to 75k. My dad came here 20 years ago as an immigrant, and worked hard to provide for my family. My family is very fortunate to have a house and everything we need.
I guess you are the type of guy who would have stayed working while seeing your dad being fired by your same employer.
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There it is.

Sadly it's all about cost nowadays. Loyalty is only around in a few places and the easiest way to generate more profit is to cut costs. The easiest way to cut costs is to cut wages. Just like water follows the path of least resistance, most managers do whatever is easiest in order to accomplish their goals.

They'll hire an employee for 45k in the place of your father. That's just the economic atmosphere in the country right now (and for the forseeable future; there's a surplus of labor).

There's a very important lesson for you here and it's acquiring skills that are valued and not easily replaceable. There are valuable skills that employuers pay well for and treat their employees great for but that's not in manual labor anymore.

I wouldn't worry too much about what you did. Some bridges need to be burned and if you felt that this was one of them then that is your right.
 
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You just got caught up in the moment. Anytime new management comes in, majority of the time they always gonna bring in their own people and let go of whoever is there. Doesn't matter if its right or wrong, its just the nature of the business. I can understand you quitting, but I would have at least given the two weeks so you can you use their reference to help get another job unless you already have some other job history.
 
asianplayer said:
You just got caught up in the moment. Anytime new management comes in, majority of the time they always gonna bring in their own people and let go of whoever is there. Doesn't matter if its right or wrong, its just the nature of the business. I can understand you quitting, but I would have at least given the two weeks so you can you use their reference to help get another job unless you already have some other job history.
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Too few people stand up for themselves.

Most people felate others' knobs their entire lives because they "don't want to burn bridges" or "have references". Guess what? They still end up being ****** over.

If you're wronged and don't care for that bridge then you have every right to let somebody know that they've ****** you over.
 
Wawawowee said:
There it is.

Sadly it's all about cost nowadays. Loyalty is only around in a few places and the easiest way to generate more profit is to cut costs. The easiest way to cut costs is to cut wages. Just like water follows the path of least resistance, most managers do whatever is easiest in order to accomplish their goals.

They'll hire an employee for 45k in the place of your father. That's just the economic atmosphere in the country right now (and for the forseeable future; there's a surplus of labor).

There's a very important lesson for you here and it's acquiring skills that are valued and not easily replaceable. There are valuable skills that employuers pay well for and treat their employees great for but that's not in manual labor anymore.

I wouldn't worry too much about what you did. Some bridges need to be burned and if you felt that this was one of them then that is your right.
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^^ Yea exactly, I'm a business major in college and I know a thing or two. This is how corporate America is, it's all business. A lot of people are discouraged to fight for their jobs because they don't know their rights or are scared. Thankfully over the past years, my dad has a few connections that he has made with wealthy people at the building who own their own businesses. They have told him that they would look him out if anything had ever happened. Everyone had nice things to say about him at the building. This was an act by the new management to look good in front of the board of directors, because they want to cut costs.My father was fired for no real reason, they told him "poor performance". But the manager told him that she would write him a letter of recommendation and that she would make it seem as if he was laid off, so he could collect unemployment. So she said in exchange my dad should keep quiet and to not file a grievance with the Union. She is manipulating him, and telling him what to do. So I told him to seek out an employment lawyer to see what can be done. The union itself is a piece of crap. Last time they wrote him up, we filed a complaint with the union and they said they would investigate and talk to management. NOTHING WAS DONE. My dad has paid union dues for over 15 years, and if the union doesn't represent him then there is something wrong.We are weighing our options, but unfortunately last resort might be to sue the union and management.



As for burning bridges, I could care less about that company. I worked part-time there. I have other way better references to put on my resume. I had been offered jobs from business owners there, because they saw I was a good worker but I couldn't because my school schedule. I've always been outspoken whether at work, school, or any other institution. I think that is a big problem today, people take the L and just walk away without putting a fight. I don't care if I was outnumbered, I'd still fight for what's right.
 
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Wawawowee said:
Too few people stand up for themselves.

Most people felate others' knobs their entire lives because they "don't want to burn bridges" or "have references". Guess what? They still end up being ****** over.

If you're wronged and don't care for that bridge then you have every right to let somebody know that they've ****** you over.
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^^ Yea exactly, people on here telling me I should have stayed working. Are you kidding me?

And whose to say I wouldn't be the next one to get fired? I'd rather go out my way. And tell them to their faces. Everyone talks crap about their bosses behind their back, but I told them to their faces. I told them to look at my face when I was speaking to them. Man it was something out of a movie.
 
The Nomad said:
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Experienced in HR they expected some of you to respond in that matter, and believe there was preemptive measures in place.. They were just letting you vent, 15 years is a long time as a porter though. Your father should have took that as a sign they found no real value in him as an employee and been expected to be canned 14 years prior.


If they wanted to be pricks about it, they could have alerted the authorities and had you removed or pressed charges.



It happens to the best of us, which is why I'd NEVER work for anyone ever again, I just don't see the logic in someone having the power over my financial well-being. I'm self-employed and my services are infallible sources of income for me, if I don't make any money it's because I'm not being as resourceful and efficient as I should, two things that would get you canned from a job anyway.



2012+ are definitely the perfect opportune time for you and your dad to erect your own business, possibly create an industry of your own, while the country's current financial system is antiquated and looking for ways  revive itself.




 
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^^ Like I said it was new management, they took over a little over a year ago. They are the problem. My dad had no problems whatsoever for those first 13 years.

Pressed charges for what? I did not make any threats or hurt them physically.
 
Jordman23 said:
^^ Like I said it was new management, they took over a little over a year ago. They are the problem. My dad had no problems whatsoever for those first 13 years.
Pressed charges for what? I did not make any threats or hurt them physically.
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In corporate HR this is standard procedure, if I press charges, later if/or when you try and sue me I have legal documentation that our choice was partly made because your character wasn't beneficial to our company's growth nor was if safe for our other employees. You acted unprofessionally once this is legally documented it's almost impossible to refute that in court.
 
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The Nomad said:
In corporate HR this is standard procedure, if I press charges, later if/or when you try and sue me I have legal documentation that our choice was partly made because your character wasn't beneficial to our company's growth nor was if safe for our other employees. You acted unprofessionally once this is legally documented it's almost impossible to refute that in court.
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^^ That is a very valuable piece of information. You are right, I see what you mean. That gives them more ammo in court, and would hurt my credibility. Since you work in HR, what options or tips would you have about this situation? And on monday we have to pickup all the papers and documentation to present to the union. So i'm planning to audio record the last conversation and have them say something incriminating on tape. I obviously will not speak out of line on Monday.
 
Jordman23 said:
PowerBallin said:
Selling out? :lol:

Keep it real your father is a Porter....ya'll need that money.
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Yea a porter in a High Rise Luxury Condo, he had worked over 15 years in. If you are from NYC/NJ area, you'd know they get paid relatively well especially since every year they get a raise. He was making close to 75k. My dad came here 20 years ago as an immigrant, and worked hard to provide for my family. My family is very fortunate to have a house and everything we need.

I guess you are the type of guy who would have stayed working while seeing your dad being fired by your same employer.
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I believe it. One of my high school friends was a porter in the city and they started him off at $18/hr.

New management always start BS. You did ok by me, OP. I would of took a couple of swings though. :lol:

Being your own boss. >
 
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