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Literally one of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted on NT.
Arrogance of having a college degree
Literally one of the dumbest things I've ever seen posted on NT.
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It's really not the system, though.
If you have a game plan and can achieve your goals with hard work, determination, and contacts, you can go far. You can't come into a reputable college and expect to have job offers lined up for you. This sense of entitlement will destroy you.
People now are saying that if you aren't a STEM major, you're out of luck. That can be true, but I've seen go-getter types with non-STEM majors succeed.
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Does a Senior in High School get a say in this? Or should I just keep it moving?
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You realize that everything you've been taught in school is all information that I can obtain for free on the internet, correct?
College isn't the only place to learn.
Not all of us need someone standing in front of a class to teach us things.
A lot of people are more than capable of seeking things out and learning on our own.
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I have a few friends who don't have a degree / dropped out of college. I have plenty of cousins who don't have degrees as well. I don't look down on them or treat them as second class citizens like some do. Personally, I don't have any problem with being friends / associating with people with out one. My father, uncle and a couple of my first cousins don't have them. My uncle and dad both had trades, college isn't for everyone but I feel like there were more incentives / less need in our parents generation. We live in a whole different world. Its hard for me to not see people in our generation as lazy if they don't have some kind of degree, trade, business idea or other hustle.
When it comes to dating I REFUSE to date a woman without a degree from SOMEWHERE. That's just a personal preference that I'm entitled to. I'm black but I can't trip if a girl tells me she doesn't date black guys because that is her personal choice. I believe that who you choose to date is one of the biggest decisions of your life and it should be taken seriously. To be frank, I don't think I could trust that a women without a lot going for herself professionally wasn't only into me for my money / career. I think it is just a lot easier to relate to people that have similar goals / aspirations and to me. My girlfriend knows that my career field is demanding and stressful and she doesn't take it to heart when I have to call to cancel dinner plans because I have to work late. I understand that her chosen field is demanding and some nights she may be in the library all night for a law school exam. We understand each other because we've each been there, however, I think it would take some convincing if I had a woman who didn't understand these things that I love her and enjoy spending time with her. Or for her to even trust that I am at work.
When it comes to dating I REFUSE to date a woman without a degree from SOMEWHERE. That's just a personal preference that I'm entitled to. I'm black but I can't trip if a girl tells me she doesn't date black guys because that is her personal choice. I believe that who you choose to date is one of the biggest decisions of your life and it should be taken seriously. To be frank, I don't think I could trust that a women without a lot going for herself professionally wasn't only into me for my money / career. I think it is just a lot easier to relate to people that have similar goals / aspirations and to me. My girlfriend knows that my career field is demanding and stressful and she doesn't take it to heart when I have to call to cancel dinner plans because I have to work late. I understand that her chosen field is demanding and some nights she may be in the library all night for a law school exam. We understand each other because we've each been there, however, I think it would take some convincing if I had a woman who didn't understand these things that I love her and enjoy spending time with her. Or for her to even trust that I am at work.
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There are things you can get in a college classroom that you can't get in a book.
There's more to learning than just reading information.
There's more to learning than just reading information.
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There are things you can gain from the real world that you can't get from college.
There's more to learning than just sitting in a classroom.
Plenty of ways to educate ourselves, its 2013.
If anything going to college will limit a lot of people's true potential.
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Just some food for thought.
Ever wonder how it is that kids spend 13 years from kindergarten to high school supposedly being prepared for life yet when they get out they don't have any real skills. They aren't taught how to grow a garden, how to build a house, how to fix a car, how to balance a checkbook, or how to cook a healthy meal. They come out without even rudimentary concepts of how to organize or lead groups of people without even a glimmer of understanding how to resolve conflicts non-violently and we call this an education. Yeah we're taught how to read and write and perform some basic math but we aren't taught how to think for ourselves, we aren't taught the principles of logic, or how to question an ideology. What we are taught is how to sit in a desk and listen obediently as the world is packaged into a neat little box that we are to accept without question. Regurgitate that information for tests, to give the answer to those in authority demand, but most of all we're conditioned to conform. That's most of our childhood, to have this much time taken by force with such pathetic results is unacceptable.
In b4 lack of funding.
In b4 poorly trained teachers.
In b4 lax regulations.
In b4 low quality curriculum.
Ever wonder how it is that kids spend 13 years from kindergarten to high school supposedly being prepared for life yet when they get out they don't have any real skills. They aren't taught how to grow a garden, how to build a house, how to fix a car, how to balance a checkbook, or how to cook a healthy meal. They come out without even rudimentary concepts of how to organize or lead groups of people without even a glimmer of understanding how to resolve conflicts non-violently and we call this an education. Yeah we're taught how to read and write and perform some basic math but we aren't taught how to think for ourselves, we aren't taught the principles of logic, or how to question an ideology. What we are taught is how to sit in a desk and listen obediently as the world is packaged into a neat little box that we are to accept without question. Regurgitate that information for tests, to give the answer to those in authority demand, but most of all we're conditioned to conform. That's most of our childhood, to have this much time taken by force with such pathetic results is unacceptable.
In b4 lack of funding.
In b4 poorly trained teachers.
In b4 lax regulations.
In b4 low quality curriculum.
not even worth debating. :x
You originally said that response was dumb and ignorant...why did you edit?
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You originally said that response was dumb and ignorant...why did you edit?
Because the only thing dumb and ignorant about that post was his response, and he realized that soon after he typed it.
If you don't understand the difference between the working world and college world, then I'm not sure what to tell you.
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stop messing with trashy broads.
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I agree, but let's not sit here and act like having The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air as your father isn't extremely beneficial.
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What?
there's ALOT alot struggle going on in 2013 b...whether going to college for a degree that
Will NEVER make em any money to da MASSIVE
Student debt folks have no idea how to claw out of
Because there aint any jobs capable to overcome
Their burdens...
i have a co worker who said they aint doing no manual labor because they have a degree
This is why da United States isnt looking too good
In da future... No one makes anything...
Going to school with no direction is like hitting da
Highway with no map..you gonna end either wasting
WILD time or just fast out completely lost...
You again? First off i am in college, second i would
Appreciate it if you removed your lips from my
****. Sheesh this weirdo has no quit.
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K-12 school is essentially daycare.
What's even more hilarious is ppl who drop BIG bank, i'm talkin 5-figures, ery year on private school, just so they can feel special and their kid can go to fancy daycare and still end up in a regular *** college
To each his own tho.
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K-12 school is essentially daycare.
What's even more hilarious is ppl who drop BIG bank, i'm talkin 5-figures, ery year on private school, just so they can feel special and their kid can go to fancy daycare and still end up in a regular *** college
To each his own tho.
As someone who has gone to both public and private schools, there is a difference.
School is what you make it. Calling it a "daycare" is moronic.
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*disclaimer: i hope this thread doesnt turn into whether you should got to college*
but i HATE the arrogance some people have when they get a college degree..
i mean... its an accomplishment, dont get me wrong... i enjoy how people can put together a certain amount of time in their young lives and dedicate it to something like that...
but the entitlement people have is :x
also, i don't understand why that just makes people all of sudden better...
like "i have a girl, really nice, COLLEGE EDUCATED, sexy etc"...
that's ok... but when people start saying my _____ "has to be COLLEGE EDUCATED" that just rubs me the wrong way...
and this is coming from someone that's a less than a year away from a Master's...
People in my classes think they're just SOOO much higher than the next man... like, they cant take someone's advice or info if they dont have a 4 year degree AT LEAST.
please dont let these degrees go to your heads, or make you not appreciate those without one...
cuz SOOOO many people have degrees now, my g. you aint that special.
A degree means nothing. It's just a piece of paper that is required in most career fields these days to get you an interview. When we interview folks, their interpersonal skills and personality far outweigh the importance of any degree.
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My degree is somewhere at my parents house.
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K-12 school is essentially daycare.
What's even more hilarious is ppl who drop BIG bank, i'm talkin 5-figures, ery year on private school, just so they can feel special and their kid can go to fancy daycare and still end up in a regular *** college
To each his own tho.
Depending on where you live some public schools are absolutely trash
Let's not pretend like good private schools aren't feeders to the best colleges
It's not the parents' fault if the kid doesn't take advantage of the opportunity
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-If a student plays it right college is still a great invest. Even with a few major outside of the STEM majors.
-Problem is we send too many students off to college without the skills or knowledge to be successful
-And if someone struggled for 3-5 years on a hard degree, then they have every right to be proud of it. Dudes always love to bring up the "this person making money without a college degree, so that proves college is worthless/overrated/etc.". No is doesn't B
-Even the student loan arguments dudes make have tons of holes in them
-And lets keep it 1HUNNA about society. We ***** and complain about taxes, yet complain about schools failing kids. A school shouldn't be responsible for teaching a kid how to cook, or change a tire, or balance a budget. That what parents are for. It seems like more and more people want to half *** raise their kids and blame the "system" for not picking up the slack.
-Problem is we send too many students off to college without the skills or knowledge to be successful
-And if someone struggled for 3-5 years on a hard degree, then they have every right to be proud of it. Dudes always love to bring up the "this person making money without a college degree, so that proves college is worthless/overrated/etc.". No is doesn't B
-Even the student loan arguments dudes make have tons of holes in them
-And lets keep it 1HUNNA about society. We ***** and complain about taxes, yet complain about schools failing kids. A school shouldn't be responsible for teaching a kid how to cook, or change a tire, or balance a budget. That what parents are for. It seems like more and more people want to half *** raise their kids and blame the "system" for not picking up the slack.
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I edited because it was harsh and way too confrontational.
A college student gets everything out of life the regular person does.
A regular person can not get everything out of life that a college student does. It's that ******g simple.
And to say you're "limited" by adding an experience with a community set out to learn and prepare for the next stage in their life is just silly.
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I'm going to graduate this spring and feel like I come across this a lot.
I'm going to UCLA, which many consider a good school (usually ranked about 25th nationally, give or take) Seems like I come across a lot of kids that think the world owes them something because they attend a pretty good school.
I transferred from community college and am a first generation college student. I started from nothing so I keep a level head. Gets pretty tired dealing with spoiled kids that think they are god's gift. We all worked hard to get there, though, so I let them live.
My dad always brings up a good point. A lot of guys from our generation simply don't know how to do regular labor and they have no interest in learning. I've got friends from college that don't even know how to change the motor oil in their car, like they don't know how to turn a wrench. Crazy to me but times are changing.
I'm going to UCLA, which many consider a good school (usually ranked about 25th nationally, give or take) Seems like I come across a lot of kids that think the world owes them something because they attend a pretty good school.
I transferred from community college and am a first generation college student. I started from nothing so I keep a level head. Gets pretty tired dealing with spoiled kids that think they are god's gift. We all worked hard to get there, though, so I let them live.
My dad always brings up a good point. A lot of guys from our generation simply don't know how to do regular labor and they have no interest in learning. I've got friends from college that don't even know how to change the motor oil in their car, like they don't know how to turn a wrench. Crazy to me but times are changing.
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