A few 'FYI' things about Nike and Nike products.........

When Tuned Air launched in the fall of 1998 they were exclusive to Footlocker family and Champs Sports. Footaction was not part of Footlocker Inc. back then,thus they were not part of the official launch. Footlocker and Champs Sports had an exclusive agreement to carry the runner(Air Max Plus), trainer andbasketball(Air Tuned Uptempo) models first. I think it was exclusive for 1 year. I worked at Champs Sports back then and it was a pretty big deal. You sawother retailers like Athlete's Foot carry the Tuned Force and Air Tuned Max which featured a Total Air "air-unit" with tuned pods in the entireheel. Below is a link to the company that created the hemispherical pods that were combined with Nike Air to create "Tuned Air."

http://www.skydex.com/profiles/nikeTunedAir.html

MenOfOregon, I want to be an EKIN!! I have applied too many times to get overlooked. Trust me I know my stuff!
 
nike knows that people call em air bubbles...hell why would they call these air max BURST?

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because back when air "units" weren't on a diet asthetically it looks like da back had such a huge unit its "bursting" with air....

for reference..da OG sizes....
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The part Men of Oregon is not sensing is that in his original post, telling others not to call the "air unit" a bubble is condescending.

Basically, Men of Oregon, i for one appreciate the little tidbits of info, but 99% of all nike air users will call the air unit a bubble, and will continue to.
 
I'm sorry, I could've sworn that THIS was my original posting about that:

"Our designers, engineers, scientists, testers, EKINS, etc. don't like the use of the word "bubble" to describe ourAir Units. It is not a "bubble". A bubble is what you blow from chewing gum. It is called an Air Unit. With respect to their collegedegrees in various sciences, hard work, and countless hours of research, we prefer to use the proper name when referring to our AirUnits.(Encapsulated Air, Visible Air, Tuned Air, Max Air, Tube Air, Blow Molded Air, Zoom Air) Thanks!"

It CLEARLY says that we don't like the word "bubble". AND also, it CLEARLY says that we prefer to use theproper name. Some of you fail to read it correctly, or purposely twisted my words around to cause a stir. I merely said that that's what it was calledsince the beginning. I don't see how that's condescending at all...???

Good job on some of you turning this post into an uproar, as usual. Why must information always be "battled" or confronted? Why can't theinformation just be read, processed, and moved on? Like I've stated before, call it what you will, but please don't confront or "battle" meabout the name because there is no need to "battle" about it. It's the name ORIGINALLY given and used since it's first inception back in1979.

Thank you to the few of you that read the info., processed it, took it into consideration, decided not to waste your time making an uproar because youmistakenly thought you were being disrespected or the info. was condescending, and moved on with the post.
 
All info here is highly appreciated.

MenofOregon thanks for doing this!!!

I pretend I don't see all the other, useless stuff in here, which is typical for NT smh.
 
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All info here is highly appreciated.

MenofOregon thanks for doing this!!!

I pretend I don't see all the other, useless stuff in here, which is typical for NT smh.

You're welcome. Consumers such as this one, and a few others, are the main reason I post information. They find it advantageous to read theinfo. instead of turning it into an irrelevant debate. It seems as though quite a few of you have a problem with being told the correct name/terminology ofsomething. Why? Sounds like your egos "took a hit". I'm not posting info. to be condescending or to offend people. That's what opinions arefor. I was posting FACTS. I, for one, have no problem whatsoever with people educating me on something that I was incorrectlyreferencing, ESPECIALLY if it's true.

Like I've said before, if you read it correctly, call it what you will. But please don't argue the fact of what it's ORIGINALLY/TRULY called.
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Originally Posted by MenofOregon

It CLEARLY says that we don't like the word "bubble". AND also, it CLEARLY says that we prefer to use the proper name. Some of you fail to read it correctly, or purposely twisted my words around to cause a stir. I merely said that that's what it was called since the beginning. I don't see how that's condescending at all...???
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Everyone, it's not imperative to use the proper terminology, but if you're referencing technology that's been researched, designed, and innovated by engineers and scientists for years, why wouldn't you call it by its correct name to others as well as yourself? It's not a "street name", it's a technology. Would you call your parents by their first names? Of course not. That's not a sign of respect to the many years that they've given to your life. It's a matter of respect to all who are involved with the whole process.


Yes, but you as the consumer are referencing OUR products and technology. So it's only right that you should use the correct name. I wouldn't go to your workplace or company and use an incorrect/false name to describe your products or services without finding out the proper term. I'm sure upper management, senior executives, or some other veteran employees would have something to say about it.

I appreciate your concern, but my concern is to educate the consumers about the proper names/terminology with respect to Nike, Nike Innovation, and Nike consumers.


I never said to "do this" or "stop doing that". What I've been saying and giving is the proper name/terminology for our technology. That's called educating the consumer. A lot of whom seem to appreciate and are willing to learn more. Please don't attempt to speak for eveyone on this board.


Casual conversation or not, an attempt should be made to be or sound educated about a matter, rather than talking nonsense


I'm not talking about a "street name" or nickname for a shoe, I'm talking about a company technology presented by a former NASA engineer
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But if you're being educated on the proper terminology/name as you would be in school, I don't see why anyone wouldn't use it.


Yeah no condescension here. I think you overestimate your value to this board. No one is going to bow down to your arrogant remarks because you have some'info.' Or maybe you don't overestimate yourself, you just see yourself as something you aren't.
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Yes, you're correct. Those statements really are condescending. They don't seem like regular statements at all. -smh-

Enough of the deviation from this topic, as usual. I prefer not to get into it with some of you because it tends to get to a ridiculous level, as seen beforeon here. Some of you know who you are.

If anyone felt like it was a condescending statement, I apologize. But please read and analyze the statement thoroughly, and please don't addwords of your own that aren't really present in the original statement. It makes for an unneeded discussion. Thank you.

P.S., the next person to post a negative retaliation after this is clearly after "something else" on this board, or has issues and refuses to keep itdown. I'm not engaging in that "something else" with them. Let's please try to keep it informational for the benefit of everyone and movealong from it. Like someone said, "it's not that serious".
 
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BTW, MenofOregon, I have noticed that retros of Air Max 95s and Air Max 97s no longer have the PSI readings of the air-units printed on the outsoles. I'm sure they got rid of it when the air-units no longer had those air pressure readings but do you happen to know how much air pressure is in the smaller, seamless air-units now?
From my understanding, the Air pressure had to be lowered due to the greenhouse gases being released into and affecting the atmosphere. It was anenvironmental decision that Nike felt compelled to make in order to preserve the earth. Not sure what the current volume's of 'Air' are.
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Sparq designs are nice but they're too low in the back for me. My heel won't stay in those shoes.
 
solefulone, I don't dispute that you "know your stuff", and your desire to be an EKIN is appreciated. The key is to not giveup. Be persistent! It's the only way.

But keep in mind that being an EKIN means not only knowing our footwear, but knowing our apparel, accessories, vision, timing, technologies, processes,company protocol, AND history and heritage "inside and out" as well. It's quite a bit of info to learn. In addition to doing a lot of travelling,establishing good relationships with your accounts, and having good "people skills". If you're up to the challenge then by all means, keepapplying!
 
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Sparq designs are nice but they're too low in the back for me. My heel won't stay in those shoes.
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I'm assuming you have a narrow heel? If so, that's a common issue. I suggest you re-adjust the lacing on the shoes. Try to use the lower lace holeat the top. It tends to make a difference. Otherwise, there are other lacing styles that can be used.
 
Clutchshooter, you know you were free to not come into this topic, but you did. If it really bothered you, you wouldn'thave taken the time to post a comment and just ignored the whole thing all-in-all. Anyways, I hope the info. posted helps you out in someway.
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MenofOregon, are the air Jordan retro xi "space jams" releasing in 09 or are they the ridiculous looking collaboration shoes. A bit off topic butsince you here I thought I'd give it a shot in the dark and ask as many of us are in wonder, thanks
 
MenofOregon:
I'm sorry, I could've sworn that THIS was my original posting about that:

"Our designers, engineers, scientists, testers, EKINS, etc. don't like the use of the word "bubble" to describe our Air Units. It is not a "bubble". A bubble is what you blow from chewing gum. It is called an Air Unit. With respect to their college degrees in various sciences, hard work, and countless hours of research, we prefer to use the proper name when referring to our Air Units.(Encapsulated Air, Visible Air, Tuned Air, Max Air, Tube Air, Blow Molded Air, Zoom Air) Thanks!"

It CLEARLY says that we don't like the word "bubble". AND also, it CLEARLY says that we prefer to use the proper name. Some of you fail to read it correctly, or purposely twisted my words around to cause a stir. I merely said that that's what it was called since the beginning. I don't see how that's condescending at all...???

Good job on some of you turning this post into an uproar, as usual. Why must information always be "battled" or confronted? Why can't the information just be read, processed, and moved on? Like I've stated before, call it what you will, but please don't confront or "battle" me about the name because there is no need to "battle" about it. It's the name ORIGINALLY given and used since it's first inception back in 1979.

Thank you to the few of you that read the info., processed it, took it into consideration, decided not to waste your time making an uproar because you mistakenly thought you were being disrespected or the info. was condescending, and moved on with the post.


Nice try, guy.

How cute of you to avoid my question earlier and now try to play the victim.
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I'll repeat something I said earlier this time in large letters, so it's impossible for you to ignore (and the question will be in yellow, making THATimpossible to ignore as well):

'Education' is NOT your only desire. 'See things my way, people! Stop calling them bubbles!' is a VERY BIG part of yourintention in this thread.

Tell me that's not true

Tell me this is NOT true: "I want people to stop using the term 'bubble', and I'm hoping this threadwill accomplish that." Tell me that is a FALSE statement.

You educated people that 'bubble' is an unprofessional term. Awesome. We know that. So why are you still goingon? If education is your only motive, and education has already taken place, why were you still going on?


You can stop playing the victim, and answer the question now (instead of dodging it).

And Method Man had some questions you dodged as well. Let's take a look:

Nike hasn't instructed you to come on here and proselytize our members, correct?

Somehow, I don't think talking down to Ska was on the corporate agenda. Is this how the company WISHES to be represented?

Care to actually address those questions instead of playing the victim card?

And all of the talk about 'with respect to our designers' is condescending.

And all of the effort you're putting into in an attempt to DEMAND that people use the proper terminology is condescending.

And suggesting that people who use the term 'air bubble' are uneducated is condescending.

INFORMING PEOPLE OF THE PROPER TERMINOLOGIES WHILE RESPECTING THEIR RIGHT TO CALL THE UNITS WHATEVER THEY FEEL LIKE CALLING THEM IS NOT CONDESCENDING; it is informative and respectful.

Have you been doing that?

You have four questions to answer in THIS reply alone, and I don't want you to ignore them and play the victim again, so here's they are... again:

#1. Tell me this is NOT true: "I want people to stop using the term 'bubble', andI'm hoping this thread will accomplish that." Tell me that is a FALSE statement.

You educated people that 'bubble' is an unprofessional term. Awesome. We know that. So why are you still goingon?

#2. Nike hasn't instructed you to come on here and proselytize our members, correct?
Did they? Did Nike instruct you to make this informative, condescending thread?

#3. Somehow, I don't think talking down to Ska was on the corporate agenda. Is this how the companyWISHES to be represented? Is your tone in this thread the way Nike wants to be represented? They told you to represent them like this?

#4. INFORMING PEOPLE OF THE PROPER TERMINOLOGIES WHILE RESPECTING THEIR RIGHT TO CALL THE UNITS WHATEVER THEY FEEL LIKE CALLING THEM ISNOT CONDESCENDING; it is informative and respectful.

Have you been doing that?

- telling our members that they should use the proper terms because the terms refer to technology designed by a NASA engineer is condescending.

- telling our members that using 'air bubble' is uneducated and that it is simply 'talking nonsense' is condescending.

- all of the talk about 'with respect to our designers' is condescending.

- all of the effort you're putting into in an attempt to DEMAND that people use the proper terminology is condescending.

- suggesting that people who use the term 'air bubble' are uneducated is condescending.

If you don't see how, then I doubt you understand what the term 'condescending' describes (and I also doubt you knowwhat 'proselytize' means.
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Sorry for the large font, but you seem to want to dodge the questions pertaining to you, yet you expect everyone to listen to your demands/wishes/desires. Somaybe with a large font, you won't be able to dodge things so easily.

It's very easy to make this thread about information only: delete all of your responses that came after your first one to start the thread. Since then, youhave done WAY more than 'just inform', so save the crap about 'If anyone responds to something that doesn't have to do with information, thenthey are after something else.' You've been after something else since you first made the thread.
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I'll be quiet and let you answer or dodge the questions now.
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MenofOregon, thank you for all the information you've decided to share with the community as it is much appreciated.

I as well am curious as to the benefits and specifics of the new lunar foam being used on the hyperdunks and would love to know what you can find out. Thanks!



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Good try on trying to take it to a whole different level 23ska909red02. Sorry, I won't go down that path with you because it looks like itwill lead to nowhere, then you'd truly be successful. But the ORIGINAL intent of this post of mine was an informative one. It wasn't a post tosee who could outdo who. You've managed to do that on your own. Everyone here is more than capable of dissecting what was written and make their ownjudgements as to what was written without you trying to influence them.

I must say I didn't expect that kind of "game" from an administrator on here, but it says a lot. I didn't know it meant that much to you totry and "win" at this? If you put this much effort into my post maybe you can make an even harder effort in other posts as well??? But if I say"you win", will you drop the intense effort and try to get back to normal? Hope you're satisfied? You can continue to "pat yourself on theback", and I can continue to share information. Your trophy's in the mail. Good day, sir.
 
The check on my Nikes is scuffed and the bubble popped...
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sorry... couldn't resist...

MenOfOregon - thanks for your info... any plans to make sneaker versions of some of Nike's baseball cleats? Fuse, 5-Tools, etc...
 
Originally Posted by MenofOregon

Good try on trying to take it to a whole different level 23ska909red02. Sorry, I won't go down that path with you because it looks like it will lead to nowhere, then you'd truly be successful. But the ORIGINAL intent of this post of mine was an informative one. It wasn't a post to see who could outdo who. You've managed to do that on your own. Everyone here is more than capable of dissecting what was written and make their own judgements as to what was written without you trying to influence them.

I must say I didn't expect that kind of "game" from an administrator on here, but it says a lot. Hope you're satisfied? You can continue to "pat yourself on the back", and I can continue to share information. Your trophy's in the mail. Good day, sir.
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You won't go down that path because you don't see what you are doing as a problem. THAT is your problem. This isn't the first thread whereyour smugness has been so evident. People HAVE dissected and made their own judgments about what you have written, just as Meth pointed out. Justbecause Ska calls you out, it doesn't mean he is trying to influence people. And you wouldn't expect such a 'game' from an administrator onhere? You wouldn't expect an administrator to call you on your condescension and company shilling? Do you expect Ska to just let you be condescendingjust because you 'drop some info'?
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Posting public information on terminology is a problem????? Wow, that's a first for me.

The only problem is, he, along with others, assumed that I was being condescending with posting information(although I don't see how). That'sthe first mistake. NEVER ASSUME. Why would he, or anyone for that matter, have to "call someone out" for posted facts on terminology? Does that makeany sense????

Secondly, whenever you add your own words and twist the message then it becomes condescending, which works in his favor.

Lastly, read your last sentence over a few times and see if it makes any sense, sir.

Let's please try and not ruin the posting of information for others on this board who can benefit from it.
 
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