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Waiters to the 76ers? Whispers of the Sixers being the 3rd team to help facilitate the K Love trade to Cleveland.

I think a location would be K Love (OBVIOUSLY) and for Waiters. Kinda have mixed emotions about Wiggins being shipped but I can't front and say that Minny with Rubio+Lavine+Wiggins wont be my NBA 2K15 team...lol
 
Sterling got some of y'all in ya feels. I don't expect anything from NBA players who chose to sign a contract to play under someone with a well documented history of racism.

If you're expecting these guys to take a stand or show some integrity like it's the 60's you'll be disappointed.

for what it's worth though, I understand why they played. And I also understand Doc choosing to potentially leave or players to potentially protest now. if you don't that's on you.
 
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BLASTERCOMBO said:
Because what he said and what sterling said are even remotely related in regards to severity.
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Sterling said it in the privacy of his own home. Can't this whole thing be called off based just off that. The severity of it depends on who you ask.
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Heck No. To me it's worse. Had he said it to a paper or magazine, he could have back tracked and said it was edited. However, when you say it in your environment, your speaking from the heart. It got leaked, his problem, he has to live by it. Same, with a girl's nudes, if they leak, do we just act like it never happened? Heck no, she has to live with her mistake and face the consequences. 
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Honestly in the NBA it's like pick your poison. You have an owner in Cleveland who profited greatly off the housing collapse where millions lost their jobs. You have an owner in Brooklyn who has a track record a mile long of dirt (not just banging prostitutes), you have an owner in Orlando who condemns homosexuality, and you the list goes on and on.

Where do you guys think these people got their millions/billions? You don't think they all secretly look down on African Americans like the rest of the country?

What do you think your boss did to get to a position of power? or the CEO of your current employer?

grow up. this is America the home of the thieves.
 
NickFolarin said:
Let's be real with ourselves, do you even think Doc Rivers was even thinking about Donald Sterling when he was leaving Boston for the Clippers? This situation wasn't even in anyone's wildest dreams possible. Doc left Boston for a best team and more power, and that reason only. Outside the LeBron/Gilbert situation, I have never seem any player or coach, in any major sport, base his/her decision because of any owners belief's, because majority of the time owner's aren't even in the building, except for a few owners.

Let's put this in the average person terms. How many of use look into a company's discrimination lawsuits or the company's owner beliefs or religion before we apply? None. Heck, we just want the job because it fits us and pays well. 
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Doc Rivers was thinking about money. Period. Nothing more, nothing less. As I said in another thread, green > principle.

In a league as small as the NBA, where certain owners are more notorious than others, you know exactly what you're getting into when you sign on the dotted line to play or work for the Clippers.

Certain members on NT already showed themselves for who they are (in another thread) when they said they would have no issues working for a outwardly racist boss as long as the money was right.

It is what it is. Look, Doc made his decision and at the end of the day, I really don't have an issue with him wanting to work under sterling. It was HIS choice. My problem solely lies with him getting on his moral high-horse like he didn't know what he was getting in to. The media is insulting a lot of people's intelligence by putting Rivers on a pedestal for leading his team through this ordeal. Rivers' intentions from the jump were transparent, but somehow no one has taken him to task (other than Jason Whitlock) for being there in the first place. If he's up for Sportsman of the Year, then so should Justin Bieber.
 
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NickFolarin said:
Let's be real with ourselves, do you even think Doc Rivers was even thinking about Donald Sterling when he was leaving Boston for the Clippers? This situation wasn't even in anyone's wildest dreams possible. Doc left Boston for a best team and more power, and that reason only. Outside the LeBron/Gilbert situation, I have never seem any player or coach, in any major sport, base his/her decision because of any owners belief's, because majority of the time owner's aren't even in the building, except for a few owners.

Let's put this in the average person terms. How many of use look into a company's discrimination lawsuits or the company's owner beliefs or religion before we apply? None. Heck, we just want the job because it fits us and pays well. 
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Doc Rivers was thinking about money. Period. Nothing more, nothing less. As I said in another thread, green > principle.

In a league as small as the NBA, where certain owners are more notorious than others, you know exactly what you're getting into when you sign on the dotted line to play or work for the Clippers.

Certain members on NT already showed themselves for who they are (in another thread) when they said they would have no issues working for a outwardly racist boss as long as the money was right.

It is what it is. Look, Doc made his decision and at the end of the day, I really don't have an issue with him wanting to work under sterling. It was HIS choice. My problem solely lies with him getting on his moral high-horse like he didn't know what he was getting in to. The media is insulting a lot of people's intelligence by putting Rivers on a pedestal for leading his team through this ordeal. Rivers' intentions from the jump were transparent, but somehow no one has taken him to task (other than Jason Whitlock) for being there in the first place. If he's up for Sportsman of the Year, then so should Justin Bieber.
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lol Martin Luther Rivers. He's looking to move into Tony Dungy territory in the NBA. (before yesterday that is)
 
Why the Spurs won the summer, too
J.A. Adande [ARCHIVE]

ESPN.com | July 21, 2014
The most successful offseason of any NBA team didn't involve a news conference or an as-told-to story. It quietly reached its conclusion in the form of an email from the San Antonio Spurs on Tuesday morning that announced the re-signing of Boris Diaw.

If the immediate goal is to win the 2015 championship, there's no better place to start than preserving the 2014 champions. No, the Spurs didn't make the eye-grabbing move of the summer -- the return of LeBron James to Cleveland snagged that honor -- but they made a series of low-key announcements that four main components of their championship squad are coming back: Diaw, Tim Duncan, Patty Mills and coach Gregg Popovich.

Put it this way: Would you rather have a team with LeBron adapting to a new group of players, or a team that just beat LeBron by a total of 70 points in five NBA Finals games? The Spurs epitomize the underrated story of the 2014 NBA free-agent fest, which is that retaining is the new improving.

Yes, LeBron altered the landscape in the East while making a move that will bolster the financial value of the Cavaliers and the psyche of the city. It was transformative. The Spurs did not transform, and that was the point. They stuck with what works, similar to last offseason when they brought back Manu Ginobili and Tiago Splitter. If other teams want to model themselves after San Antonio, they can start with that. To borrow from Rudyard Kipling: If you can keep your players when all about you are losing theirs...

For example, the Indiana Pacers would be better-positioned to capitalize on LeBron's departure from Miami if they hadn't lost Lance Stephenson to the Charlotte Hornets. Stephenson was Indiana's second-leading scorer and rebounder in the playoffs and led the Pacers in assists. In the same vein, Stephenson's addition to the Hornets would have meant more if they hadn't lost the versatile Josh McRoberts, who was second on the team in both rebounds and 3-pointers.

Toronto got the message and locked up Kyle Lowry early in the free-agency period, then brought back Patrick Patterson and Greivis Vasquez, which means they'll have a chance to keep the momentum from their unexpected trip to the playoffs. So will the Washington Wizards, who re-signed Marcin Gortat. Yes, they lost Trevor Ariza to the Houston Rockets, but they made Gortat their priority and kept him. Big men are harder to find than wing players, and the Wizards rebounded nicely from Ariza by snagging Paul Pierce.

Pierce, don't forget, won a playoff game against the Raptors with some clutch fourth-quarter buckets and saved Game 7 with a blocked shot on the final play. If he can still win playoff games in crunch time for you, he's a worthy addition. Let John Wall and Bradley Beal handle the scoring duties throughout the regular season.

We've never questioned Carmelo Anthony's ability to score throughout the regular season. With his return to New York, the Knicks don't have to start from scratch, and Phil Jackson has more to sell to free agents than just bright lights and Broadway when he recruits next year. The Memphis Grizzlies, after a tumultuous front-office shakeup, have roster stability with Zach Randolph and coach Dave Joerger back in the fold. They also nabbed Vince Carter because they didn't make the same mistake as the Mavericks, who presumed Carter would stay in Dallas at a low price.

The Mavericks failed to proactively preserve their assets, similar to how the Clippers lost Darren Collison to Sacramento. Collison showed his value in holding things down for the Clippers while Chris Paul missed 18 games with a shoulder injury, and Collison's offense helped fuel the fourth-quarter comeback in Game 4 of the Oklahoma City series that proved to be the Clippers' final victory of the playoffs. He wanted to stay in Los Angeles, but he didn't want to wait while the Clippers explored other ways to spend their available money.

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Though LeBron is taking his talents back north, big-named free agents like Carmelo Anthony stayed put.
That's why I liked Toronto's swift lockup of Lowry, even if $48 million sounds steep for a player who's never made an All-Star team and just set a personal high of 18 points per game. The Raptors knew they weren't going to find a better recipient for their money. Lowry went against the history of stars leaving Toronto, which dates back to Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter. Lowry bought into what general manager Masai Ujiri is creating.

"It's rare that you can get a situation that you can call a team your own," Lowry said. "We're building. Jonas [Valanciunas] is young. DeMar [DeRozan] is young. Terrence [Ross] is young. They need somebody to lead them. That's the long-term plan."

You can think long-term when only one player on the roster is over 30 ... and when the impact-player movement isn't as dramatic as it was four years ago.

In 2010, it wasn't just LeBron changing teams. Four other players who led their teams in scoring moved on. Chris Bosh went from Toronto to Miami, Carlos Boozer went from Utah to Chicago, Amar'e Stoudemire went from Phoenix to New York, and David Lee was traded from New York to Golden State. The Knicks had a net positive by adding Stoudemire and then trading for Carmelo Anthony the next season. But Cleveland, Utah and Toronto haven't won a playoff series since.

The only leading scorers to move on thus far this summer are LeBron and Arron Afflalo, who was traded from Orlando to Denver. The market's a little colder because teams want to keep their payrolls flexible for the 2016 free-agency class, so they're not quite as willing to hand out hefty deals now. Meanwhile, the fact that Carmelo, Bosh and Gortat are in their 30s made the extra year and larger guaranteed amounts in the contracts offered by their home teams more appealing than if they'd been in Dwight Howard's shoes as a 27-year-old free agent last year. It's easier for Dwight to assume that the same type of money will be there four years later at age 31 than for Gortat to guess he can make it back when he's 35.

The Rockets were the biggest victims of the lack of appetite for movement by the likes of Carmelo and Bosh, but their summer isn't as disastrous as it's been made out to be. Yes, they wound up trading Jeremy Lin, Omer Asik and Omri Casspi without maximizing the salary-cap space they received in exchange. They lost Chandler Parsons after they passed on the chance to bring him back for less than $1 million next season. But they still have two All-Stars in Dwight Howard and James Harden. They still average out to a high grade if you factor in the previous two seasons.

But this year they failed to get players to come to them when it turned out many players were more inclined to stay where they are. The Rockets' wheeling-dealing ways were then. The Spurs, who seemed so long ago, are now
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11243217/why-san-antonio-spurs-won-summer-too
 
^ That actually might be better than GSW offer at this point, although Mirotic is an unknown for me so I can't be sure.
 
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Waiters to the 76ers? Whispers of the Sixers being the 3rd team to help facilitate the K Love trade to Cleveland.

I think a location would be K Love (OBVIOUSLY) and for Waiters. Kinda have mixed emotions about Wiggins being shipped but I can't front and say that Minny with Rubio+Lavine+Wiggins wont be my NBA 2K15 team...lol
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They probably will be the third team. They have the money to absorb any terrible contract they choose so maybe they'll take on Kevin Martin or Barea then get Waiters and another nice young piece in return.
 
:smh: go ahead and gut the depth we just acquired. If they wouldn't take Taj, Mirotic, and 2 first rounds the 1st time, what makes this offer any better? Nowhere close to what the Cavs or GSW is offering.

Minnesota selling Wolf tickets, pun intended.

C'mon Cavs just give up the Canadiens and get this **** over with already.
 
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They probably will be the third team. They have the money to absorb any terrible contract they choose so maybe they'll take on Kevin Martin or Barea then get Waiters and another nice young piece in return.
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True.

Sixers do have like, what, 23 million of free cap space? By far more free space than any other team could muster up. Plus, they would get Waiters and/or Martin/Berea which I honestly think will help them at least not lose 70 games again
 
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True.

Sixers do have like, what, 23 million of free cap space? By far more free space than any other team could muster up. Plus, they would get Waiters and/or Martin/Berea which I honestly think will help them at least not lose 70 games again
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Philly ain't tryin to win games right now.
 
Bulls trading half their roster :lol:

It's cool though. I've been told in this thread mad times that Chicago's roster is deep...
 
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Philly ain't tryin to win games right now.
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Yeah after I typed it I realized that this is another tank year for Philly. Which I agree they need to do. Adding Waiters does help in the long run though--scoring guard, can handle the ball when necessary, is improving and seems like the type that is very competitive. A good consolation for missing out on Wiggins in the draft. Glad that got Embiid though. Hopefully they redshirt him like they did Noel
 
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