If Your Child Wants To Become The Opposite Sex At A Very Early Age...What Would You Do?

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by Weekz

Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

Why do these stories always pop up in western civilizations?

*rhetorical question*

ive had this same question before as well. i know u asked it rhetoricallly but i still feel like answering.
i think its because our news tries to uncover every possible story possible (at least the ones they feel like telling) ands its also very liberel but in 3rd world and eastern places things considered shamefull in the culture are let as far from the lime light as possible.

also in many places the news wouldnt want to report this.

any one else notice that these things happen a lot more to white ppl than to people of other races.  it could be leading back to what i said about 3rd world mentalities but sill..

White/western societies are a lot more liberal and "progressive" than third world societies in general. Gender "incongruence"/dysphoria exists in many other cultures but strong societal prohibition and a lack of medical technology makes sex change not an option.

 

[tupac jordan]

 

[tupac jordan]

 

[|A-Man|]

Originally Posted by iYen

ATGD7154xBBxMZ wrote:
At 8 years old or younger? YES, a monumental fail.

At a young age, I'd tell them the real thing using scientific terms.

I don't even get the last questions. I don't see how wanting children in the future has to do with what kids want at a young age or what that has to do with young children wanting to change their gender. To kind of answer, I'd say wanting to have kids in the future is more important of a matter than any trivial thing a child may want at a young age.

In my post I said there must be some failing on the parents part if their children already have it in mind that they want children. They shouldn't even be thinking about having children.

There is a connection between wanting children in the future, what kids want at a young age, and young children wanting to change their gender.
For instance in the documentary, one child wanted to have kids in the future because she wanted to become a mother.
Without taking hormones, puberty blockers, etc than he felt that he could not become a mother in the future.
He wanted to live as a girl in order to become a mother, which is a motivator for him to have a sex change.
That's the connection that I'm talking about.

This is the failure in parenting. Why is my young son striving to be a mother and not a father? Exactly how was he raised and what did he learn to have this as a goal? Who put this in his head? It isn't simply from looking at your mom and saying hey I want to be a mom too. If young kids one day want to have kids of their own I can totally see that connection but wanting to change your sex because of it is not a connection. When is that boy going to be told surgery on your penis to make it appear as if you have a vagina won't make him be able to bear a child or produce milk from his hormonally produced ****?

Again why doesn't he want to be a father?

Why shouldn't children be thinking about having children in the future?


Children shouldn't be thinking about having children for a lot of reasons. They can't provide for children because they are children themselves. They do not know how to take care of children let alone raise them. If your child is in elementary school focusing on thoughts of having children there's a problem Probably should give them a puppy and see how soon it dies.

If you tell them how they were made and how much you love them, wouldn't your child also want a child to love as well?
In the future when they're old enough, of course. I'd want that too. Not my son changing his sex just so he can adopt a kid when he would've been fully able to have a child the regular way or adopt as a man before changing his sex.

I feel sorry for any child with terrible parents supporting such flawed reasoning.

 

[|A-Man|]

Originally Posted by iYen

ATGD7154xBBxMZ wrote:
At 8 years old or younger? YES, a monumental fail.

At a young age, I'd tell them the real thing using scientific terms.

I don't even get the last questions. I don't see how wanting children in the future has to do with what kids want at a young age or what that has to do with young children wanting to change their gender. To kind of answer, I'd say wanting to have kids in the future is more important of a matter than any trivial thing a child may want at a young age.

In my post I said there must be some failing on the parents part if their children already have it in mind that they want children. They shouldn't even be thinking about having children.

There is a connection between wanting children in the future, what kids want at a young age, and young children wanting to change their gender.
For instance in the documentary, one child wanted to have kids in the future because she wanted to become a mother.
Without taking hormones, puberty blockers, etc than he felt that he could not become a mother in the future.
He wanted to live as a girl in order to become a mother, which is a motivator for him to have a sex change.
That's the connection that I'm talking about.

This is the failure in parenting. Why is my young son striving to be a mother and not a father? Exactly how was he raised and what did he learn to have this as a goal? Who put this in his head? It isn't simply from looking at your mom and saying hey I want to be a mom too. If young kids one day want to have kids of their own I can totally see that connection but wanting to change your sex because of it is not a connection. When is that boy going to be told surgery on your penis to make it appear as if you have a vagina won't make him be able to bear a child or produce milk from his hormonally produced ****?

Again why doesn't he want to be a father?

Why shouldn't children be thinking about having children in the future?


Children shouldn't be thinking about having children for a lot of reasons. They can't provide for children because they are children themselves. They do not know how to take care of children let alone raise them. If your child is in elementary school focusing on thoughts of having children there's a problem Probably should give them a puppy and see how soon it dies.

If you tell them how they were made and how much you love them, wouldn't your child also want a child to love as well?
In the future when they're old enough, of course. I'd want that too. Not my son changing his sex just so he can adopt a kid when he would've been fully able to have a child the regular way or adopt as a man before changing his sex.

I feel sorry for any child with terrible parents supporting such flawed reasoning.

 

[bkmac]

Deep down, I'd be a bit upset only because I would want to tell my son/daughter that they were "born to live as they were born as, and make the best of their life", yet, I would soon realize that they are entitled to live a life that they are comfortable with, and if they are not comfortable in their current body, than I would want what is best for them.

This is really a difficult situation to discuss and I'm sure even more difficult to experience. It's selfish for you, the parent, to want your child to remain the sex they were born as, but if they want to have a sexchange, even at such an early age, where do you even start?

 

[bkmac]

Deep down, I'd be a bit upset only because I would want to tell my son/daughter that they were "born to live as they were born as, and make the best of their life", yet, I would soon realize that they are entitled to live a life that they are comfortable with, and if they are not comfortable in their current body, than I would want what is best for them.

This is really a difficult situation to discuss and I'm sure even more difficult to experience. It's selfish for you, the parent, to want your child to remain the sex they were born as, but if they want to have a sexchange, even at such an early age, where do you even start?

 

[sooperhooper]

There's no way I'm changing the sex of my child. I promise, some of you all are pushovers to the 10th power. As soon as the kid gives you the puppy dog eyes, you'll be buying ponies and M3s.

I'm glad I don't have a problem putting my foot down with kids. Call me what you want, just call my SON a SON.

 

[sooperhooper]

There's no way I'm changing the sex of my child. I promise, some of you all are pushovers to the 10th power. As soon as the kid gives you the puppy dog eyes, you'll be buying ponies and M3s.

I'm glad I don't have a problem putting my foot down with kids. Call me what you want, just call my SON a SON.

 

[frankmatthews]

What if your 8 year old wanted to watch R rated movies? What if they wanted to smoke cigarettes and watch porn? Drink beer?

No way in hell any responsible parents will even entertain allowing this. But chopping off their wee wee, how is it acceptable to allow your child to make that decision at that age?

Another elephant in the room here is the gay agenda. Everyone is so scared of being labeled a homophobe or a bigot for not accepting alternative lifestyles relating to sexual activity and gender roles. If it was as cut and dry as drinking alcohol or smoking any parent would step in and put their foot down no matter how much crying and complaining the kid did. But in this situation putting your foot down could be misconstrued as being homophobic or unaccepting of such alternative lifestyles.


The parents are encouraging this behavior, as has been said, 8 year olds should not be concerned with that part of life yet. I wouldn't want my son thinking of the boobs and vaginas OF OTHER PEOPLE at that age, let alone wanting to have those on their body.


I think there is some severe mental damage that obviously can come out of this. Is living with yourself as you are while wishing you were something else any more emotionally damaging or trying than living as a transgender person in this society?

There is something extremely wrong with hating yourself and your appearance so much that you want to mutilate the perfectly healthy body you were blessed to be born with. You are either born a male or female and no amount of hormones of surgery can change that. All you are doing is changing your appearance so that you can resemble something you are not. You are lying to yourself and everyone around you. It is not healthy in my opinion.


As for the question, like alot of people already said, I'm not paying for it so unless my 8 year old can come up with a few grand and convince a judge or a doctor or whoever that he doesn't need parental permission for cosmetic surgery then he's not getting it done. When he's 18 he can make his own life choices.

 

[frankmatthews]

What if your 8 year old wanted to watch R rated movies? What if they wanted to smoke cigarettes and watch porn? Drink beer?

No way in hell any responsible parents will even entertain allowing this. But chopping off their wee wee, how is it acceptable to allow your child to make that decision at that age?

Another elephant in the room here is the gay agenda. Everyone is so scared of being labeled a homophobe or a bigot for not accepting alternative lifestyles relating to sexual activity and gender roles. If it was as cut and dry as drinking alcohol or smoking any parent would step in and put their foot down no matter how much crying and complaining the kid did. But in this situation putting your foot down could be misconstrued as being homophobic or unaccepting of such alternative lifestyles.


The parents are encouraging this behavior, as has been said, 8 year olds should not be concerned with that part of life yet. I wouldn't want my son thinking of the boobs and vaginas OF OTHER PEOPLE at that age, let alone wanting to have those on their body.


I think there is some severe mental damage that obviously can come out of this. Is living with yourself as you are while wishing you were something else any more emotionally damaging or trying than living as a transgender person in this society?

There is something extremely wrong with hating yourself and your appearance so much that you want to mutilate the perfectly healthy body you were blessed to be born with. You are either born a male or female and no amount of hormones of surgery can change that. All you are doing is changing your appearance so that you can resemble something you are not. You are lying to yourself and everyone around you. It is not healthy in my opinion.


As for the question, like alot of people already said, I'm not paying for it so unless my 8 year old can come up with a few grand and convince a judge or a doctor or whoever that he doesn't need parental permission for cosmetic surgery then he's not getting it done. When he's 18 he can make his own life choices.

 

[trelvis tha thrilla]

Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

Why do these stories always pop up in western civilizations?

*rhetorical question*

What do you mean these types of stories? Sex changes? if so it happens everywhere. Thailand has a huge population of transsexuals.

 

[trelvis tha thrilla]

Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

Why do these stories always pop up in western civilizations?

*rhetorical question*

What do you mean these types of stories? Sex changes? if so it happens everywhere. Thailand has a huge population of transsexuals.

 

[limonyfresh]

If they could find a doc for it, they would have to find a new place to live.

 

[limonyfresh]

If they could find a doc for it, they would have to find a new place to live.

 

[furrell]

FrankMatthews wrote:

Another elephant in the room here is the gay agenda. Everyone is so scared of being labeled a homophobe or a bigot for not accepting alternative lifestyles relating to sexual activity and gender roles. If it was as cut and dry as drinking alcohol or smoking any parent would step in and put their foot down no matter how much crying and complaining the kid did. But in this situation putting your foot down could be misconstrued as being homophobic or unaccepting of such alternative lifestyles.


Finally someone said it. The gay agenda has been pushed heavily in the last few years and if we don't accept we're viewed as hateful. No, I just don't support that lifestyle.

I would not allow my child to become the opposite sex period. Kids are influenced by what they see and if you don't think the media has a role in stuff like this, you are truly mistaken. Its not normal for children to think like that.

Like Ninjahood said, having a father in the home is crucial to a child's development.

 

[furrell]

FrankMatthews wrote:

Another elephant in the room here is the gay agenda. Everyone is so scared of being labeled a homophobe or a bigot for not accepting alternative lifestyles relating to sexual activity and gender roles. If it was as cut and dry as drinking alcohol or smoking any parent would step in and put their foot down no matter how much crying and complaining the kid did. But in this situation putting your foot down could be misconstrued as being homophobic or unaccepting of such alternative lifestyles.


Finally someone said it. The gay agenda has been pushed heavily in the last few years and if we don't accept we're viewed as hateful. No, I just don't support that lifestyle.

I would not allow my child to become the opposite sex period. Kids are influenced by what they see and if you don't think the media has a role in stuff like this, you are truly mistaken. Its not normal for children to think like that.

Like Ninjahood said, having a father in the home is crucial to a child's development.

 

[alchemiss]

The gay agenda...You guys can't be serious

  Wonder how many of you affiliate with WBC 

 

[alchemiss]

The gay agenda...You guys can't be serious

  Wonder how many of you affiliate with WBC 

 

[iYen]

Originally Posted by ATGD7154xBBxMZ

This is the failure in parenting. Why is my young son striving to be a mother and not a father? Exactly how was he raised and what did he learn to have this as a goal? Who put this in his head? It isn't simply from looking at your mom and saying hey I want to be a mom too. If young kids one day want to have kids of their own I can totally see that connection but wanting to change your sex because of it is not a connection. When is that boy going to be told surgery on your penis to make it appear as if you have a vagina won't make him be able to bear a child or produce milk from his hormonally produced ****?

Again why doesn't he want to be a father?

Why shouldn't children be thinking about having children in the future?

Children shouldn't be thinking about having children for a lot of reasons. They can't provide for children because they are children themselves. They do not know how to take care of children let alone raise them. If your child is in elementary school focusing on thoughts of having children there's a problem Probably should give them a puppy and see how soon it dies.

If you tell them how they were made and how much you love them, wouldn't your child also want a child to love as well?
In the future when they're old enough, of course. I'd want that too. Not my son changing his sex just so he can adopt a kid when he would've been fully able to have a child the regular way or adopt as a man before changing his sex.

I feel sorry for any child with terrible parents supporting such flawed reasoning.

Because your son sees himself as a girl, so becoming a father isn't what he wants. He sees becoming a mother a more fitting role for him due to his personality and other traits. It depends on the individual. Either they themselves put that into their head through their surroundings or their parents did. But as you can see from some of the kids in the documentary, that was not the case. Some parents tried to make them dress as the gender they were born and some were against it.
As I've said before, is wanting to become a mother out of ball park compared to goals that other children want?
Goals such as becoming an astronaut, President of the United States or a Power Ranger?
How is that a failure in parenting? Why does it matter if he wants to become a mother or a father?
Shouldn't you at least be proud that your son/daughter wants to become a loving parent when they grow up?

If a young girl identifies herself as a male, she will want to become a father more than she'll want to become a mother.
That's the connection I'm talking about.
The young girl isn't comfortable being a girl, therefore doing guy stuff is what makes her comfortable.
Isn't that what being yourself means?
If so, do you think it's okay to tell a your young girl that she can't do guy stuff because she's a girl?

I'm sure that certified doctors explain the procedure thoroughly before going through with it.
That Kim Petras girl that I posted a video of said she got the sex change operation done because she wanted to be complete.
After she had it done, she said she felt complete, so I guess that means mission accomplished.
I'm sure that there are other individuals out there that feel the same way.
Which would be to look like a woman as scientifically possible.

Again, because he identifies himself as a female.

As I said before, is wanting to have children in the future out of question as opposed to goals that children at that age want?
Would there still be a problem if a child that wanted to have children in the future was fully aware of the reasons you listed of why they shouldn't be thinking about having children?

Not all girls/guys are changing their sex just so they can become mothers/fathers. Some want to live life as the opposite sex.
They can't get sex changes at young ages so most have to wait until they're 18.
Although most have to begin taking hormones, testosterone, estrogen, or puberty blockers at a young age in order to begin their transition into the opposite sex.

Don't feel sorry, there's nothing to be sorry about.
The difference between the decisions you and others make as parents doesn't make them terrible parents nor does it make you the better parent.
That statement only applies to the topic of this thread.

bkmac wrote:
It's selfish for you, the parent, to want your child to remain the sex they were born as, but if they want to have a sexchange, even at such an early age, where do you even start?

Depending on the individual.
He or she would have to start taking testosterone, estrogen or puberty blockers depending on how old they are.
Some people take the drugs in order to look like the opposite sex but don't have the sex change.
I don't know why though, I guess externally looking like the opposite sex is good enough for them.

Originally Posted by FrankMatthews

What if your 8 year old wanted to watch R rated movies? What if they wanted to smoke cigarettes and watch porn? Drink beer?
No way in hell any responsible parents will even entertain allowing this. But chopping off their wee wee, how is it acceptable to allow your child to make that decision at that age?
Another elephant in the room here is the gay agenda. Everyone is so scared of being labeled a homophobe or a bigot for not accepting alternative lifestyles relating to sexual activity and gender roles. If it was as cut and dry as drinking alcohol or smoking any parent would step in and put their foot down no matter how much crying and complaining the kid did. But in this situation putting your foot down could be misconstrued as being homophobic or unaccepting of such alternative lifestyles.
The parents are encouraging this behavior, as has been said, 8 year olds should not be concerned with that part of life yet. I wouldn't want my son thinking of the boobs and vaginas OF OTHER PEOPLE at that age, let alone wanting to have those on their body.
I think there is some severe mental damage that obviously can come out of this. Is living with yourself as you are while wishing you were something else any more emotionally damaging or trying than living as a transgender person in this society?
There is something extremely wrong with hating yourself and your appearance so much that you want to mutilate the perfectly healthy body you were blessed to be born with. You are either born a male or female and no amount of hormones of surgery can change that. All you are doing is changing your appearance so that you can resemble something you are not. You are lying to yourself and everyone around you. It is not healthy in my opinion.
As for the question, like alot of people already said, I'm not paying for it so unless my 8 year old can come up with a few grand and convince a judge or a doctor or whoever that he doesn't need parental permission for cosmetic surgery then he's not getting it done. When he's 18 he can make his own life choices.

They can't have the sex change until they are 18.

Drinking alcohol and smoking leads to health issues.
Putting your foot down in this situation would mean that the parent is unacceptable of alternative lifestyles.
The parent would have to believe that their child can only be happy as he or she were born.

I think it would be more emotionally damaging for a child to live as they are while wishing to be something else because transgenders that live their lives how they want in this society have a lot of courage. Courage that people living as they are while wishing to be something else will never have.

As I said before, they have to be 18 to go through with the operation.
Some just take the proper medication in order to look like the opposite sex and stop there.
I agree, you are either biologically born male or female.
Gender wise...that's debatable.
The girls that do guy stuff all day or the guys that do girl stuff all day are lying to themselves?
How is it lying if they tell the people they meet that they were once a girl or once a guy?
Do you think it's impossible for a girl to be trapped in a guy's body or vise versa?

 

[iYen]

Originally Posted by ATGD7154xBBxMZ

This is the failure in parenting. Why is my young son striving to be a mother and not a father? Exactly how was he raised and what did he learn to have this as a goal? Who put this in his head? It isn't simply from looking at your mom and saying hey I want to be a mom too. If young kids one day want to have kids of their own I can totally see that connection but wanting to change your sex because of it is not a connection. When is that boy going to be told surgery on your penis to make it appear as if you have a vagina won't make him be able to bear a child or produce milk from his hormonally produced ****?

Again why doesn't he want to be a father?

Why shouldn't children be thinking about having children in the future?

Children shouldn't be thinking about having children for a lot of reasons. They can't provide for children because they are children themselves. They do not know how to take care of children let alone raise them. If your child is in elementary school focusing on thoughts of having children there's a problem Probably should give them a puppy and see how soon it dies.

If you tell them how they were made and how much you love them, wouldn't your child also want a child to love as well?
In the future when they're old enough, of course. I'd want that too. Not my son changing his sex just so he can adopt a kid when he would've been fully able to have a child the regular way or adopt as a man before changing his sex.

I feel sorry for any child with terrible parents supporting such flawed reasoning.

Because your son sees himself as a girl, so becoming a father isn't what he wants. He sees becoming a mother a more fitting role for him due to his personality and other traits. It depends on the individual. Either they themselves put that into their head through their surroundings or their parents did. But as you can see from some of the kids in the documentary, that was not the case. Some parents tried to make them dress as the gender they were born and some were against it.
As I've said before, is wanting to become a mother out of ball park compared to goals that other children want?
Goals such as becoming an astronaut, President of the United States or a Power Ranger?
How is that a failure in parenting? Why does it matter if he wants to become a mother or a father?
Shouldn't you at least be proud that your son/daughter wants to become a loving parent when they grow up?

If a young girl identifies herself as a male, she will want to become a father more than she'll want to become a mother.
That's the connection I'm talking about.
The young girl isn't comfortable being a girl, therefore doing guy stuff is what makes her comfortable.
Isn't that what being yourself means?
If so, do you think it's okay to tell a your young girl that she can't do guy stuff because she's a girl?

I'm sure that certified doctors explain the procedure thoroughly before going through with it.
That Kim Petras girl that I posted a video of said she got the sex change operation done because she wanted to be complete.
After she had it done, she said she felt complete, so I guess that means mission accomplished.
I'm sure that there are other individuals out there that feel the same way.
Which would be to look like a woman as scientifically possible.

Again, because he identifies himself as a female.

As I said before, is wanting to have children in the future out of question as opposed to goals that children at that age want?
Would there still be a problem if a child that wanted to have children in the future was fully aware of the reasons you listed of why they shouldn't be thinking about having children?

Not all girls/guys are changing their sex just so they can become mothers/fathers. Some want to live life as the opposite sex.
They can't get sex changes at young ages so most have to wait until they're 18.
Although most have to begin taking hormones, testosterone, estrogen, or puberty blockers at a young age in order to begin their transition into the opposite sex.

Don't feel sorry, there's nothing to be sorry about.
The difference between the decisions you and others make as parents doesn't make them terrible parents nor does it make you the better parent.
That statement only applies to the topic of this thread.

bkmac wrote:
It's selfish for you, the parent, to want your child to remain the sex they were born as, but if they want to have a sexchange, even at such an early age, where do you even start?

Depending on the individual.
He or she would have to start taking testosterone, estrogen or puberty blockers depending on how old they are.
Some people take the drugs in order to look like the opposite sex but don't have the sex change.
I don't know why though, I guess externally looking like the opposite sex is good enough for them.

Originally Posted by FrankMatthews

What if your 8 year old wanted to watch R rated movies? What if they wanted to smoke cigarettes and watch porn? Drink beer?
No way in hell any responsible parents will even entertain allowing this. But chopping off their wee wee, how is it acceptable to allow your child to make that decision at that age?
Another elephant in the room here is the gay agenda. Everyone is so scared of being labeled a homophobe or a bigot for not accepting alternative lifestyles relating to sexual activity and gender roles. If it was as cut and dry as drinking alcohol or smoking any parent would step in and put their foot down no matter how much crying and complaining the kid did. But in this situation putting your foot down could be misconstrued as being homophobic or unaccepting of such alternative lifestyles.
The parents are encouraging this behavior, as has been said, 8 year olds should not be concerned with that part of life yet. I wouldn't want my son thinking of the boobs and vaginas OF OTHER PEOPLE at that age, let alone wanting to have those on their body.
I think there is some severe mental damage that obviously can come out of this. Is living with yourself as you are while wishing you were something else any more emotionally damaging or trying than living as a transgender person in this society?
There is something extremely wrong with hating yourself and your appearance so much that you want to mutilate the perfectly healthy body you were blessed to be born with. You are either born a male or female and no amount of hormones of surgery can change that. All you are doing is changing your appearance so that you can resemble something you are not. You are lying to yourself and everyone around you. It is not healthy in my opinion.
As for the question, like alot of people already said, I'm not paying for it so unless my 8 year old can come up with a few grand and convince a judge or a doctor or whoever that he doesn't need parental permission for cosmetic surgery then he's not getting it done. When he's 18 he can make his own life choices.

They can't have the sex change until they are 18.

Drinking alcohol and smoking leads to health issues.
Putting your foot down in this situation would mean that the parent is unacceptable of alternative lifestyles.
The parent would have to believe that their child can only be happy as he or she were born.

I think it would be more emotionally damaging for a child to live as they are while wishing to be something else because transgenders that live their lives how they want in this society have a lot of courage. Courage that people living as they are while wishing to be something else will never have.

As I said before, they have to be 18 to go through with the operation.
Some just take the proper medication in order to look like the opposite sex and stop there.
I agree, you are either biologically born male or female.
Gender wise...that's debatable.
The girls that do guy stuff all day or the guys that do girl stuff all day are lying to themselves?
How is it lying if they tell the people they meet that they were once a girl or once a guy?
Do you think it's impossible for a girl to be trapped in a guy's body or vise versa?

 

[itz rolli]

ill be damned if my son came at me waggin his finger snappin his neck about a sex change. +*%! my face, do that on your own dime.

 

[itz rolli]

ill be damned if my son came at me waggin his finger snappin his neck about a sex change. +*%! my face, do that on your own dime.

 

[quincy powell]

Some of you have issues.

 

[quincy powell]

Some of you have issues.