Older NTers: What do you feel sucks more today compared to 20 years ago: music or movies?

Originally Posted by Ghenges

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

Originally Posted by Ghenges

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey


Basically what I was tryna say in a nutshell
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These are not made up.  These are actual movies from the early 90s that made it to the big screen. 

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Be that as it may, still: The 15 best movies made in the first half of the 90s > All the movies made since 2000 combined.

It's all subjective but it'd be interesting to hear what you think are the best 15 movies from 1990 - 1995. 


Goodfellas
Pulp Fiction
Heat
Reservoir Dogs
Terminator 2
Unforgiven
Forrest Gump
The Shawshank Redemption
Casino
Braveheart
Jurassic Park
Schindler's List
Boyz N The Hood
Lion King
Hoop Dreams
 
Originally Posted by Ghenges

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

Originally Posted by Ghenges

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey


Basically what I was tryna say in a nutshell
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These are not made up.  These are actual movies from the early 90s that made it to the big screen. 

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Be that as it may, still: The 15 best movies made in the first half of the 90s > All the movies made since 2000 combined.

It's all subjective but it'd be interesting to hear what you think are the best 15 movies from 1990 - 1995. 


Goodfellas
Pulp Fiction
Heat
Reservoir Dogs
Terminator 2
Unforgiven
Forrest Gump
The Shawshank Redemption
Casino
Braveheart
Jurassic Park
Schindler's List
Boyz N The Hood
Lion King
Hoop Dreams
 
Originally Posted by vaphenom06

Music by far.  Classic movies are still made every year.  You just have to deal with a lot of crap too.  To the person who said television, television's at an all time high the past decade or so:
Wire

Sopranos

Breaking Bad

Mad men

Arrested Development

Boardwalk Empire

Extras

Curb

Louie

Always Sunny

Friday Night Lights

Dexter

etc.

They didn't have television like this 20 years ago except for save the Simpsons


How could you leave out Deadwood? The Sopranos and Deadwood were the best TV shows of the last decade.

And yeah, TV has been getting better. But only because they can show more on TV now than they could in the 90s and earlier. Back then they couldn't even have profanity, let alone nudity. And HBO brought both. Not to mention violence that is much more graphic.

If you compare TV shows fair and on equal terms, such as comedy shows, the 90s are still hands down better.
 
Originally Posted by vaphenom06

Music by far.  Classic movies are still made every year.  You just have to deal with a lot of crap too.  To the person who said television, television's at an all time high the past decade or so:
Wire

Sopranos

Breaking Bad

Mad men

Arrested Development

Boardwalk Empire

Extras

Curb

Louie

Always Sunny

Friday Night Lights

Dexter

etc.

They didn't have television like this 20 years ago except for save the Simpsons


How could you leave out Deadwood? The Sopranos and Deadwood were the best TV shows of the last decade.

And yeah, TV has been getting better. But only because they can show more on TV now than they could in the 90s and earlier. Back then they couldn't even have profanity, let alone nudity. And HBO brought both. Not to mention violence that is much more graphic.

If you compare TV shows fair and on equal terms, such as comedy shows, the 90s are still hands down better.
 
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Nah but I would say the radio sucks. EVERYTHING is pop now and they cater to the little white girl audience. It only sucks cause my CD player in my car doesn't work, so I have to deal with it. Music in general is still good and the internet makes it easier find good music
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Im 21 btw
 
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Nah but I would say the radio sucks. EVERYTHING is pop now and they cater to the little white girl audience. It only sucks cause my CD player in my car doesn't work, so I have to deal with it. Music in general is still good and the internet makes it easier find good music
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Im 21 btw
 
^ That's a great list but off the top of the head
Inglourious Basterds

The Departed

No Country For Old Men

There Will Be Blood

Knocked Up

40 Year Old Virgin

Black Swan

The Dark Knight

The Aviator

The Pianist

Memento

Mystic River

The Town

Million Dollar Baby

Slumdog Millionaire

A lot more too
 
^ That's a great list but off the top of the head
Inglourious Basterds

The Departed

No Country For Old Men

There Will Be Blood

Knocked Up

40 Year Old Virgin

Black Swan

The Dark Knight

The Aviator

The Pianist

Memento

Mystic River

The Town

Million Dollar Baby

Slumdog Millionaire

A lot more too
 
Originally Posted by Enchanted1

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Nah but I would say the radio sucks. EVERYTHING is pop now and they cater to the little white girl audience. It only sucks cause my CD player in my car doesn't work, so I have to deal with it. Music in general is still good and the internet makes it easier find good music
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I agree with everything said here. People who are blaming lil wayne for the fall for music aren't looking for good music. The music on the radio isn't representative of the music that is out there. And the fact that pop rap music is a hot steaming pile of garbage doesn't speak for other genres.


And that pictures speaks a thousand words. I'm still too young to feel like a 70 year old man.
 
Originally Posted by Enchanted1

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Nah but I would say the radio sucks. EVERYTHING is pop now and they cater to the little white girl audience. It only sucks cause my CD player in my car doesn't work, so I have to deal with it. Music in general is still good and the internet makes it easier find good music
ohwell.gif
I agree with everything said here. People who are blaming lil wayne for the fall for music aren't looking for good music. The music on the radio isn't representative of the music that is out there. And the fact that pop rap music is a hot steaming pile of garbage doesn't speak for other genres.


And that pictures speaks a thousand words. I'm still too young to feel like a 70 year old man.
 
EVERYTHING is pop now and they cater to the little white girl audience


That's because there really aren't genres anymore. Snoop has been making songs with Justin Timberlake for like a decade, the equivalent of N.W.A. making a song with the New Kids On The Block back around 90.
 
EVERYTHING is pop now and they cater to the little white girl audience


That's because there really aren't genres anymore. Snoop has been making songs with Justin Timberlake for like a decade, the equivalent of N.W.A. making a song with the New Kids On The Block back around 90.
 
Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

EVERYTHING is pop now and they cater to the little white girl audience


That's because there really aren't genres anymore. Snoop has been making songs with Justin Timberlake for like a decade, the equivalent of N.W.A. making a song with the New Kids On The Block back around 90.
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Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

EVERYTHING is pop now and they cater to the little white girl audience


That's because there really aren't genres anymore. Snoop has been making songs with Justin Timberlake for like a decade, the equivalent of N.W.A. making a song with the New Kids On The Block back around 90.
????
 
Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

Originally Posted by vaphenom06

Music by far.  Classic movies are still made every year.  You just have to deal with a lot of crap too.  To the person who said television, television's at an all time high the past decade or so:
Wire

Sopranos

Breaking Bad

Mad men

Arrested Development

Boardwalk Empire

Extras

Curb

Louie

Always Sunny

Friday Night Lights

Dexter

etc.

They didn't have television like this 20 years ago except for save the Simpsons


How could you leave out Deadwood? The Sopranos and Deadwood were the best TV shows of the last decade.

And yeah, TV has been getting better. But only because they can show more on TV now than they could in the 90s and earlier. Back then they couldn't even have profanity, let alone nudity. And HBO brought both. Not to mention violence that is much more graphic.

If you compare TV shows fair and on equal terms, such as comedy shows, the 90s are still hands down better.
I still haven't gotten around to watch Deadwood yet.  I still say the Wire is GOAT but that's another thread.  Forget shows with all the nudity/violence/profanity and comedy is still 10 times better than the laugh track shows of the 90s.  Arrested Development case and point was on FOX.  Flight of the Conchords was HBO but rarely dropped the F bomb, no nudity either (even if it did it wouldn't make it funnier) The Office had a great run, and now Parks and Rec is picking up the slack.  South Park didn't hit it's stride till the turn of the century, and they were cursing just as much in it's prime as in it's first few seasons while in the 90s
 
Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

Originally Posted by vaphenom06

Music by far.  Classic movies are still made every year.  You just have to deal with a lot of crap too.  To the person who said television, television's at an all time high the past decade or so:
Wire

Sopranos

Breaking Bad

Mad men

Arrested Development

Boardwalk Empire

Extras

Curb

Louie

Always Sunny

Friday Night Lights

Dexter

etc.

They didn't have television like this 20 years ago except for save the Simpsons


How could you leave out Deadwood? The Sopranos and Deadwood were the best TV shows of the last decade.

And yeah, TV has been getting better. But only because they can show more on TV now than they could in the 90s and earlier. Back then they couldn't even have profanity, let alone nudity. And HBO brought both. Not to mention violence that is much more graphic.

If you compare TV shows fair and on equal terms, such as comedy shows, the 90s are still hands down better.
I still haven't gotten around to watch Deadwood yet.  I still say the Wire is GOAT but that's another thread.  Forget shows with all the nudity/violence/profanity and comedy is still 10 times better than the laugh track shows of the 90s.  Arrested Development case and point was on FOX.  Flight of the Conchords was HBO but rarely dropped the F bomb, no nudity either (even if it did it wouldn't make it funnier) The Office had a great run, and now Parks and Rec is picking up the slack.  South Park didn't hit it's stride till the turn of the century, and they were cursing just as much in it's prime as in it's first few seasons while in the 90s
 
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

EVERYTHING is pop now and they cater to the little white girl audience


That's because there really aren't genres anymore. Snoop has been making songs with Justin Timberlake for like a decade, the equivalent of N.W.A. making a song with the New Kids On The Block back around 90.
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People are not seeing the forest and focusing on the trees.
The only reason these "little white girl" songs are the only things getting mainstream exposure is because "little white girls" are the only people paying for--also called SUPPORTING--the music artists that they like. Pay for music you like and the industry will balance out again.

OR you can go in your favorite artists posts asking for links to their album to be PM'd to you and continue to whine about the current state of the music industry. Up to you.
 
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

EVERYTHING is pop now and they cater to the little white girl audience


That's because there really aren't genres anymore. Snoop has been making songs with Justin Timberlake for like a decade, the equivalent of N.W.A. making a song with the New Kids On The Block back around 90.
????


People are not seeing the forest and focusing on the trees.
The only reason these "little white girl" songs are the only things getting mainstream exposure is because "little white girls" are the only people paying for--also called SUPPORTING--the music artists that they like. Pay for music you like and the industry will balance out again.

OR you can go in your favorite artists posts asking for links to their album to be PM'd to you and continue to whine about the current state of the music industry. Up to you.
 
Originally Posted by RealRubirosa

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl



That's because there really aren't genres anymore. Snoop has been making songs with Justin Timberlake for like a decade, the equivalent of N.W.A. making a song with the New Kids On The Block back around 90.
????
People are not seeing the forest and focusing on the trees.
The only reason these "little white girl" songs are the only things getting mainstream exposure is because "little white girls" are the only people paying for--also called [/big]SUPPORTING[/big]--the music artists that they like. Pay for music you like and the industry will balance out again.

OR you can go in your favorite artists posts asking for links to their album to be PM'd to you and continue to whine about the current state of the music industry. Up to you.
How are there really not genres anymore? That's why I highlighted that sentence. There are plenty of genres of music out there, possibly more genres than in the past.
 
Originally Posted by RealRubirosa

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl



That's because there really aren't genres anymore. Snoop has been making songs with Justin Timberlake for like a decade, the equivalent of N.W.A. making a song with the New Kids On The Block back around 90.
????
People are not seeing the forest and focusing on the trees.
The only reason these "little white girl" songs are the only things getting mainstream exposure is because "little white girls" are the only people paying for--also called [/big]SUPPORTING[/big]--the music artists that they like. Pay for music you like and the industry will balance out again.

OR you can go in your favorite artists posts asking for links to their album to be PM'd to you and continue to whine about the current state of the music industry. Up to you.
How are there really not genres anymore? That's why I highlighted that sentence. There are plenty of genres of music out there, possibly more genres than in the past.
 
^ I wasn't disagreeing with you. I just happened to quote your post because it contained the others. I actually do agree. I mean, in the past, the genre titles were so few and far between that it was nearly impossible to get any uniqueness in artists because the industry so niched. If you didn't rap about cocaine and jewelry in the late 90's and early 2000's, you were pretty much a non-factor in rap. People like Common and Mos Def sort of deviated from that but I can't say they really paved a way. Today, we have people rapping about regular life (Mac Miller, Wiz, Asher Roth, etc.), Based God, random party music, gangsta rap, etc. There was no country for unique artists back then.

As for the internet, it makes it possible to find more artists, but hardly makes it easier. In fact, it can be argued that it almost makes it harder because now we're flooded with people dumping all sorts of nonsense online.
 
^ I wasn't disagreeing with you. I just happened to quote your post because it contained the others. I actually do agree. I mean, in the past, the genre titles were so few and far between that it was nearly impossible to get any uniqueness in artists because the industry so niched. If you didn't rap about cocaine and jewelry in the late 90's and early 2000's, you were pretty much a non-factor in rap. People like Common and Mos Def sort of deviated from that but I can't say they really paved a way. Today, we have people rapping about regular life (Mac Miller, Wiz, Asher Roth, etc.), Based God, random party music, gangsta rap, etc. There was no country for unique artists back then.

As for the internet, it makes it possible to find more artists, but hardly makes it easier. In fact, it can be argued that it almost makes it harder because now we're flooded with people dumping all sorts of nonsense online.
 
The music sucks right now for me. There are no more sitcoms on TV anymore, and when I was growing up the sitcoms were way better than this reality show stuff.

Even the football games for the PS2 were better and it still confuses me as to why the new generation of football games can't get it right like the days of PS2 and XBOX.
 
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