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Idk it comes off performative AF cause nobody actually buys that you're a PSG fanNa. You guys are taking this extremely hard.
I’ve been laughing since Saturday.
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Idk it comes off performative AF cause nobody actually buys that you're a PSG fanNa. You guys are taking this extremely hard.
I’ve been laughing since Saturday.
Idk it comes off performative AF cause nobody actually buys that you're a PSG fan
This means nothing to me because I don't do any of that Papa Flo stuff.I’m not.
But I needed a big club to latch onto once your daddy Papa Perez made his move.
But I know enough about Paris and France thru extension and family to speak on such things.
It can’t just be one huge RM Twitter account on here regurgitating Florentino Perez propaganda.
Because Zidane is from a generation wich was less subjected to scrutiny over its religion, because they were perceived as less "proselyte" and were not the scapegoat of terrorism after 9/11 and other European attacks. Best believe Zizou had a lot of doubters but far right rethoric was less prevalent in french society at that time.So why do they does France love Zidane (another Algerian Muslim) and Mbappe? They do they worship their feet.
You’re attacking Valbuena now too? What did he do but mind his business and have sex?
Everybody knows god damn well what Benzema did. Now him calling Mbappe a “betrayer” is truly hilarious.
Because Zidane is from a generation wich was less subjected to scrutiny over its religion, because they were perceived as less proselyte and were not the scapegoat of terrorism after 9/11 and other European attacks. Best believe Zizou had a lot of doubters but far right rethoric was less prevalent in french society at that time.
As far as Mbappe, on one hand he's a Christian and on the other hand, I'm sure you're familiar with colorism and tokenism but don't get fouled by that: he also get a lot of criticism upon what he looks like and where he comes from.
Karim calling Kylian a traitor is indeed stupid and out of place tho
France has always been up in arms with Muslims. If anything Zidane is from an era in which they were barely starting to recognize some of their requests. Remember in the 80s-90's they had the whole "Muslims are invading France" movement. Yet he was still beloved. The French turned on Benz cause of the Valbuena incident. Now he's getting positive press because of his play for both club and country and its looked at like a redemption story.Because Zidane is from a generation wich was less subjected to scrutiny over its religion, because they were perceived as less proselyte and were not the scapegoat of terrorism after 9/11 and other European attacks. Best believe Zizou had a lot of doubters but far right rethoric was less prevalent in french society at that time.
As far as Mbappe, on one hand he's a Christian and on the other hand, I'm sure you're familiar with colorism and tokenism but don't get fouled by that: he also get a lot of criticism upon what he looks like and where he comes from.
Karim calling Kylian a traitor is indeed stupid and out of place tho
Benzema wouldn’t understand that love because he tried to blackmail his own teammate with a sextape and the country turned on him.
But I know enough about Paris and France thru extension and family to speak on such things.
Talk about "multiethnic" to a french white guy and watch how he looks at you. They're not claiming that at all, even though, in fact, it is. Having colonized places at the four corners of the world does that to a country, for far longer than Spain/Portugal etc.No doubt France has its issues but so does every place in the world. France is extremely multiethnic. By far the the most multiethnic country in Europe. Compare that to Spain next door and it’s another universe.
Le Pen just got smoked. Their far right is scrambling right now because Macron has been terrible so far. That’s a discussion for a different thread tho.
But point remains. Zidane is a king. Mbappe is on the same path. Benzema should just be quiet knowing his history.
You right but not thorough enough.France has always been up in arms with Muslims. If anything Zidane is from an era in which they were barely starting to recognize some of their requests. Remember in the 80s-90's they had the whole "Muslims are invading France" movement. Yet he was still beloved. The French turned on Benz cause of the Valbuena incident.
Pogba does the same and may be even more vocal about policies in France in regards to Muslims and I don't see them have the same level of disdain for him.You right but not thorough enough.
Far right is at an all time high in France and Karim praying hands in games and his open love for Algeria has been the main factor for french people disdain for him
Let's say in 3 years that a rival presidential candidate to Flo runs on bringing in Mbappe after the intial sting and strong emotions have long worn off while Flo's still holding a grudge, what are the chances he'd lose?
You're telling me Real fans would be actually mad over the likely best player in the world joining? Please
You are right that a lot of France turned on Benz, but not all. There’s a reason Macron intervened to get Benz back into the NT. I was in France after the 2018 World Cup win and I’m not exaggerating when I say that Africans, Arabs, and Muslims (I know there’s some overlap here but you all get it) love Benz, and felt less represented without him at the WC. They felt that it was catering to bigots to not have him there. I believe you when you say your family there isn’t fond of him, but there are without a doubt people who love him.
I can’t speak on how things are now, but I’d imagine the way he’s become a media darling with all the BdO race is already over headlines and NT performances that he’s only gained more popularity since.
Absolutely how it would play out which is why some of these definitive declarations and statements while emotions are running hot are so funny to seeNo majority of fans will be over it, there will some who have hard stance. And the if the two parties can trust each other then something can happen.
Let's say in 3 years that a rival presidential candidate to Flo runs on bringing in Mbappe after the intial sting and strong emotions have long worn off while Flo's still holding a grudge, what are the chances he'd lose?
You're telling me Real fans would be actually mad over the likely best player in the world joining? Please
The disdain for him and his family has been tremendous and look how he toned down the policies talk for quite some time now.Pogba does the same and may be even more vocal about policies in France in regards to Muslims and I don't see them have the same level of disdain for him.
The dancing and hairstyle criticism comes from the English pundits and then echoed by everyone else. No one cared when he was dabbing it up at Juventus. The criticism about his mother came from Rabiots mother who was pissed that people were blaming Rabiot for their ouster in the Euros.The disdain for him and his family has been tremendous and look how he toned down the policies talk for quite some time now.
He's been criticized for everything under the sun from his hairstyles to his dances and dabbing to his mother being "too visible" at the games and whatnot.
But I guess you gotta live in France or really follow french politics and media to really know.
All the things I listed predates the causes you seem to outline. They BEEN hating on Pog's Mom and her custom jerseys at the games, for years now. They been criticizing him for his perceived lack of football iq, and been rounding it to being a "black player" as was his dancing and whatnot. They've hating him for what he stands for, where he grew up and what he looks like for the most part of his career.The dancing and hairstyle criticism comes from the English pundits and then echoed by everyone else. The criticism about his mother came from Rabiots mother who was pissed that people were blaming Rabiot for their ouster in the Euros.
Thankfully we have Cristobal Soria for comedic relief.
This was his reaction to the Mbappe news signing with PSG
This guy?