12/2014 Air Jordan 11 Retro - White/Black-Legend Blue - 378037-117 NO GM TALK ALLOWED!

[bayarea23]

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Here's one with the flash as you can see the PL is still fine but with the flash the mesh looks bad

Where do you store them?

 

[blackmondays]

Where she at?

 

[sneakerman3]

Good stuff guys , So should i expect yellowing around the pods regardless  of which way i store them with paper?  or without ? I usually store my kicks away for a year or year and a half tops. since the legend blue soles are Tinted blue do you see them yellowing while in storage ?

 

[ricosuave89]

Ya'll are wylin saying you wouldn't tear that *** up. And cuz of her hair?

Smash. No questions asked. If you happen to pull out some weave, so be it.

 

[quad]

I don't store my shoes in the box ...I put 'em on the shelf, and throw the boxes in my spare bedroom and keep it movin.

 

[bayarea23]

Smash. No questions asked. If you happen to pull out some weave, so be it.

LOL Some foos in here would not know what to do with that... They be in that 3 pump special!

 

[alp]

Deep down they know they would. They are just putting on for NT   They don't want to seem T H I R S T Y

yea I have no shame in admitting I'd dive right in there

Smash. No questions asked. If you happen to pull out some weave, so be it.

yes sir

LOL Some foos in here would't know what to do with that... They be in that 3 pump special!

word

 

[starfox070]

Also for the oxidation vs acidity of paper debate

When paper is infused water it tends to yeild a slightly acid moisture. Sulfuric acid due to the pulp of a tree being acidic in nature.

That sulfuric acid will in fact give up its hydrogen group willingly cause it's a strong acid.

So for a shoe to yellow it needs a oxidation which is caused by moisture H2O, but in the presence of a acid it is inhibited because the hydrogen group will in fact bond to the oxygen group tying to oxidize your shoe

H2+O=H2O

in other words that O group stays away from ur shoe and stays water

So that mean overall they would simply produce more moisture or cycle current moisture untill the acid in the paper runs out but sadly it is so small that can not inhibit the redox reaction. And oxidation takes place anyways

Now this is true if you store your shoes in normal enviornent meaning that it will take time for all these thjngs to play out

Also, the acid in the paper is so small that any inhibiting of a actual redox reaction will prob not occur.....


Just stated to to prove that @The7onius is right it's a myth and not a good one at that paper would actually help....

Long story short. Paper and acid have no effect on yellowing but oxidation does.

Oxidation is not related to paper so that means paper had no effect

Reducing moisture is ur best answer. Like sole saver and sealing shoes up reduces the amount of moisture and oxygen getting into your shoes and yellowing them.

And note paper can hold moisture so if u are nervous about that then remove it. But chemically it doesn not cause yellowing it's all about oxidation

 

[edshoecator]

Also for the oxidation vs acidity of paper debate

When paper is infused water it tends to yeild a slightly acid moisture. Sulfuric acid due to the pulp of a tree being acidic in nature.

That sulfuric acid will in fact give up its hydrogen group willingly cause it's a strong acid.

So for a shoe to yellow it needs a oxidation which is caused by moisture H2O, but in the presence of a acid it is inhibited because the hydrogen group will in fact bond to the oxygen group tying to oxidize your shoe

H2+O=H2O

in other words that O group stays away from ur shoe and stays water

So that mean overall they would simply produce more moisture or cycle current moisture untill the acid in the paper runs out but sadly it is so small that can not inhibit the redox reaction. And oxidation takes place anyways

Now this is true if you store your shoes in normal enviornent meaning that it will take time for all these thjngs to play out

Also, the acid in the paper is so small that any inhibiting of a actual redox reaction will prob not occur.....


Just stated to to prove that @The7onius is right it's a myth and not a good one at that paper would actually help....

Long story short. Paper and acid have no effect on yellowing but oxidation does.

Oxidation is not related to paper so that means paper had no effect

Reducing moisture is ur best answer. Like sole saver and sealing shoes up reduces the amount of moisture and oxygen getting into your shoes and yellowing them.

And note paper can hold moisture so if u are nervous about that then remove it. But chemically it doesn not cause yellowing it's all about oxidation

My only caveat with sealing is the crumbling after years of no use in that bag.

Is there a correlation? 

 

[The Fresh Prince]

Also for the oxidation vs acidity of paper debate

When paper is infused water it tends to yeild a slightly acid moisture. Sulfuric acid due to the pulp of a tree being acidic in nature.

That sulfuric acid will in fact give up its hydrogen group willingly cause it's a strong acid.

So for a shoe to yellow it needs a oxidation which is caused by moisture H2O, but in the presence of a acid it is inhibited because the hydrogen group will in fact bond to the oxygen group tying to oxidize your shoe

H2+O=H2O

in other words that O group stays away from ur shoe and stays water

So that mean overall they would simply produce more moisture or cycle current moisture untill the acid in the paper runs out but sadly it is so small that can not inhibit the redox reaction. And oxidation takes place anyways

Now this is true if you store your shoes in normal enviornent meaning that it will take time for all these thjngs to play out

Also, the acid in the paper is so small that any inhibiting of a actual redox reaction will prob not occur.....


Just stated to to prove that @The7onius is right it's a myth and not a good one at that paper would actually help....

Long story short. Paper and acid have no effect on yellowing but oxidation does.

Oxidation is not related to paper so that means paper had no effect

Reducing moisture is ur best answer. Like sole saver and sealing shoes up reduces the amount of moisture and oxygen getting into your shoes and yellowing them.

And note paper can hold moisture so if u are nervous about that then remove it. But chemically it doesn not cause yellowing it's all about oxidation

You should be a chemist man, that was amazing how you explained that!

 

[starfox070]

Lol I am i work in egineering so we deal with all this stuff

 

[retro fiend]

Lol was waiting for that. Its the lighting. Left pair is in store finish line and right pair is eastbay

Yeah i was talking about the LB. Legend Blues. light can do that and i know other people were having issues with different color soles. 

 

[starfox070]

My only caveat with sealing is the crumbling after years of no use in that bag.

Is there a correlation? 

The crumbling is prob due to the materials use to make a shoe porous so without air they simply dry out.

Moisture and air is our friend and enemy. I seen vids of dudes who seal their shoes and let them breathe or make some kind of elaborate set up to seal shoes and not let to much moisture in.

For me to much work let'em yellow it adds character.

 

[sneakerman3]

Also for the oxidation vs acidity of paper debate

When paper is infused water it tends to yeild a slightly acid moisture. Sulfuric acid due to the pulp of a tree being acidic in nature.

That sulfuric acid will in fact give up its hydrogen group willingly cause it's a strong acid.

So for a shoe to yellow it needs a oxidation which is caused by moisture H2O, but in the presence of a acid it is inhibited because the hydrogen group will in fact bond to the oxygen group tying to oxidize your shoe

H2+O=H2O

in other words that O group stays away from ur shoe and stays water

So that mean overall they would simply produce more moisture or cycle current moisture untill the acid in the paper runs out but sadly it is so small that can not inhibit the redox reaction. And oxidation takes place anyways

Now this is true if you store your shoes in normal enviornent meaning that it will take time for all these thjngs to play out

Also, the acid in the paper is so small that any inhibiting of a actual redox reaction will prob not occur.....


Just stated to to prove that @The7onius is right it's a myth and not a good one at that paper would actually help....

Long story short. Paper and acid have no effect on yellowing but oxidation does.

Oxidation is not related to paper so that means paper had no effect

Reducing moisture is ur best answer. Like sole saver and sealing shoes up reduces the amount of moisture and oxygen getting into your shoes and yellowing them.

And note paper can hold moisture so if u are nervous about that then remove it. But chemically it doesn not cause yellowing it's all about oxidation

Thanks man appreciate how you explained that.     its in my basement so there will be little to no moisture down here just a matter of how much i actually take them out the box

 

[edshoecator]

The crumbling is prob due to the materials use to make a shoe porous so without air they simply dry out.

Moisture and air is our friend and enemy. I seen vids of dudes who seal their shoes and let them breathe or make some kind of elaborate set up to seal shoes and not let to much moisture in.

For me to much work let'em yellow it adds character.

Yeah. I just throw them in my closet and come and go.

Good info. Wish I had the focus to be an engineer. Respect what you do.

 

[airraab]

 
Thanks man appreciate how you explained that.  so question remains,  How do you store you're legend blues with the paper? or without ? haha. I may experiment and  test one pair without the og paper and one with. 

You didn't Pay attention in Class..... did you?

You thanked him for Explaining it but still didn't understand??

it's about moisture not paper

 

[ghost430]

Lol I am i work in egineering so we deal with all this stuff

Chemical?

 

[starfox070]

Chemical?

Metallography and minor in chemistry.
We mostly test plasma sprays and treat and maintain over 50 chemical baths for a 24-7 plating and repair operation.

 

[ghost430]

Metallography and minor in chemistry.
We mostly test plasma sprays and treat and maintain over 50 chemical baths for a 24-7 plating and repair operation.

Interesting. Figured it had to be in a chemical field of some sort. Working on mechanical so my chemistry knowledge is minimal

 

[starfox070]

Chemistry was my favorite subject....... Then Physics.......

 

[starfox070]

Interesting. Figured it had to be in a chemical field of some sort. Working on mechanical so my chemistry knowledge is minimal

Good luck on ur major. Lots of work but it's worth it in the end.......

 

[fresh out dabox]

Lol I am i work in egineering so we deal with all this stuff

cool story bro

 

[atdizzle]

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Ya'll are wylin saying you wouldn't tear that *** up. And cuz of her hair?

I would def be swimming all up in dat. Any1 who says they wouldnt just cause of hair is lying. Anyone whos had sex b4 knows once it goes down, hair is definitely not being thought of lol

 

[lordcotton]

I would def be swimming all up in dat. Any1 who says they wouldnt just cause of hair is lying. Anyone whos had sex b4 knows once it goes down, hair is definitely not being thought of lol[/quote]
she can leave everything on... 

she will get the business quick, fast and in a slow hurry 

 

[edshoecator]

Visually seeing her take a shower, I'd wager that I'd be eating the butt.