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The part they won't tell you about is how Irish (and British) indentured servants fought alongside Black slaves in the 17th century during slave revolts.

Btw how did Black Americans come to have names like Sean or Tyrone and last names like Fitzgerald or Barry?
 
not at all to minimize any injustices endured as a result, but I have heard the concept of Irish slavery as relevant to US history thrown out multiple times over the years and have never felt educated enough to speak at length on the matter

if you're in in NYC, might wanna check out da Tenament museum, da irish who got here pretty much lived in filth.

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  • Photographer Jacob A Riis moved to America from Denmark after his marriage proposal was shot down
  • Immigrant suffered in extreme poverty before becoming journalist and documenting squalid conditions
  • Though now criticized for bias against ethnicities, Riis showed terrible conditions of Irish, Italian and Eastern European tenement neighborhoods to middle class Americans whose outrage would eventually lead to reforms
  • Exhibition at the Museum of the City of New York opens on October 14 and will later travel to Washington DC
  • See our full coverage of news, stories and celebrity gossip from New York

His pictures of the squalid lives of New York's immigrants made him the most famous photographer of his day - and were credited with bringing reforms which offered some hope to the booming city's poorest residents.

Jacob A Riis documented the overflowing tenements of New York's Lower East Side more than 100 years ago, shining a spotlight on how the wave of immigrants from Europe were living in a city which at the same time was the world's economic powerhouse.

He became a friend of the young rising political star Theodore Roosevelt, who called him New York's 'most useful citizen'. But some modern historians claim his photographs were actually freak show pictures which played to stereotypes about immigrants.

Now the Danish-born photographer's work is to be highlighted in a new exhibition in New York, which will then travel to Washington DC.


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A new exhibition at the Museum of the City of New York shows the work of Jacob A Riis, who documented the lives of immigrants in New York City tenements at the turn of the last century. Above, a room where residents paid five cents for a spot to sleep on the floor
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Riis, who once suffered under he extreme poverty he later documented, worked as a police reporter for New York papers and would write about the slums he photographed. Above, a picture called Under the Dump at West 47th Street.
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The journalist and photographer was celebrated in his own time, though has since been criticized for promoting stereotypical views of different ethnicities. Above, three children curled up together on a metal grate during a New York winter
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New York's Mulberry street (seen in a photograph called Bandits' Roost) was once part of the city's most notorious slum neighborhoods. It is now popular with tourists and is home to a cluster of Italian restaurants
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Above, a man smokes a pipe in front of a shanty poorly built out of wood
Notes for the retrospective at the Museum of the City of New York, Jacob A Riis: Revealing New York¹s Other Half, say that the reformer used 'flash photography, a nascent technology, for a social purpose – to reveal to New York’s middle and upper classes the squalid living conditions of the poor and to galvanize action on their behalf'.

The exhibition hopes to show attendees the photographer's career in full, which also included newspaper articles and books on the same themes of urban poverty.

Bonnie Yochelson, who is curating the MCNY exhibition, previously wrote a book about Riis, who struck out for America in the late 1800s after the girl he loved rejected his marriage proposal.

He originally worked as a carpenter before losing his job during tough financial times.

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Riis's photography eventually led turn of the century politicians such as Theodore Roosevelt to crack down on the worst lodging house offenders. Above, newsboys at a lodging house clean their faces
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The Dane was credited with bringing light to social problems that many middle class Americans had not seen before. Above, a photograph entitled Peddler Who Slept in the Cellar of 11 Ludlow Street
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Riis was particularly worried about the children growing up in slum conditions, and blamed the violent environment they lived in for possible bad behavior. Above a photograph called Scene on the Mott Street Barracks
For a time he experienced the extreme poverty he would later document for others. His photographs, taken using a tripod camera and articles in now-departed newspapers such as the New York Tribune.

Yochelson told NPR that his most famous book How the Other Half Lives, went to immigrant neighborhoods, but accused him of being guilty of perpetrating a freak show.

'Come see the colorful Italians and the mystifying Chinese,' Yochelson said of his attitudes.

Despite his alleged biases - not a problem which was raised at the time - Riis's magnesium powder flash photography is credited with bringing light, both figuratively and literally, to the desperate situations he saw.

Waves of anti-immigrant sentiment also pulsated through the United States, but the journalist's work soon gained powerful supporters.

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The photographer also looked at the places of work of the immigrant communities, such as the above Bohemian cigarmakers. His work would later be followed up by fellow muckraker Upton Sinclair, who exposed conditions in the meatpacking industry
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Riis used new photography techniques that incorporated magnesium powder to create a large flash. But photography was still a long way from where it is today and the film needed so much time to be properly exposed that movements like this girl's hand would be picked up
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The immigrant's work later gathered powerful supporters such as future president Theodore Roosevelt. Above, a picture taken at a Lower East Side sweatshop on Ludlow Street
Riis was later accompanied on his journeys into the slums by Theodore Roosevelt, then on the New York Board of Police Commissioners.

The future president, who would close the worst lodging house offenders, became friends with the Dane and said that he was 'New York's most useful citizen'.

Riis's work would set the stage for later muckrakers such as The Jungle author Upton Sinclair.

Beyond efforts at reform, the journalist also worked with philanthropists in an effort to assure that any moral citizen had a chance to work for a better life, attributing bad behavior to the environment where people were raised.

He later married his Danish sweetheart after her first husband died and brought her to America before his death in 1914.

The upcoming exhibition on his work, which opens on October 14, will travel to Washington DC and Denmark after its stay in New York.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hotographer-praise-city-s-useful-citizen.html
 

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The Irish were never slaves in America. Never.

Seriously, they were indentured servants. That's not great, but they weren't slaves.

That's not to downplay the non-WASP struggle. These folks were treated like dirt. They didn't "become white" til the late 19th, early 20th century.
 
if you're in in NYC, might wanna check out da Tenament museum, da irish who got here pretty much lived in filth.

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  • Photographer Jacob A Riis moved to America from Denmark after his marriage proposal was shot down
  • Immigrant suffered in extreme poverty before becoming journalist and documenting squalid conditions
  • Though now criticized for bias against ethnicities, Riis showed terrible conditions of Irish, Italian and Eastern European tenement neighborhoods to middle class Americans whose outrage would eventually lead to reforms
  • Exhibition at the Museum of the City of New York opens on October 14 and will later travel to Washington DC
  • See our full coverage of news, stories and celebrity gossip from New York
His pictures of the squalid lives of New York's immigrants made him the most famous photographer of his day - and were credited with bringing reforms which offered some hope to the booming city's poorest residents.

Jacob A Riis documented the overflowing tenements of New York's Lower East Side more than 100 years ago, shining a spotlight on how the wave of immigrants from Europe were living in a city which at the same time was the world's economic powerhouse.

He became a friend of the young rising political star Theodore Roosevelt, who called him New York's 'most useful citizen'. But some modern historians claim his photographs were actually freak show pictures which played to stereotypes about immigrants.

Now the Danish-born photographer's work is to be highlighted in a new exhibition in New York, which will then travel to Washington DC.


Scroll down for video

2D1F84D300000578-3261279-image-a-48_1444091470210.jpg


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A new exhibition at the Museum of the City of New York shows the work of Jacob A Riis, who documented the lives of immigrants in New York City tenements at the turn of the last century. Above, a room where residents paid five cents for a spot to sleep on the floor
2D1F854300000578-3261279-image-a-39_1444091469711.jpg


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Riis, who once suffered under he extreme poverty he later documented, worked as a police reporter for New York papers and would write about the slums he photographed. Above, a picture called Under the Dump at West 47th Street.
2D1F851600000578-3261279-image-a-42_1444091469940.jpg


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The journalist and photographer was celebrated in his own time, though has since been criticized for promoting stereotypical views of different ethnicities. Above, three children curled up together on a metal grate during a New York winter
2D1F84F300000578-3261279-image-a-33_1444091469131.jpg


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New York's Mulberry street (seen in a photograph called Bandits' Roost) was once part of the city's most notorious slum neighborhoods. It is now popular with tourists and is home to a cluster of Italian restaurants
2D1F850000000578-3261279-image-a-43_1444091470023.jpg


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Above, a man smokes a pipe in front of a shanty poorly built out of wood
Notes for the retrospective at the Museum of the City of New York, Jacob A Riis: Revealing New York¹s Other Half, say that the reformer used 'flash photography, a nascent technology, for a social purpose – to reveal to New York’s middle and upper classes the squalid living conditions of the poor and to galvanize action on their behalf'.

The exhibition hopes to show attendees the photographer's career in full, which also included newspaper articles and books on the same themes of urban poverty.

Bonnie Yochelson, who is curating the MCNY exhibition, previously wrote a book about Riis, who struck out for America in the late 1800s after the girl he loved rejected his marriage proposal.

He originally worked as a carpenter before losing his job during tough financial times.

Share this article
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Riis's photography eventually led turn of the century politicians such as Theodore Roosevelt to crack down on the worst lodging house offenders. Above, newsboys at a lodging house clean their faces
2D1F84D800000578-3261279-image-a-44_1444091470104.jpg


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The Dane was credited with bringing light to social problems that many middle class Americans had not seen before. Above, a photograph entitled Peddler Who Slept in the Cellar of 11 Ludlow Street
2D1F84BA00000578-3261279-image-a-35_1444091469135.jpg


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Riis was particularly worried about the children growing up in slum conditions, and blamed the violent environment they lived in for possible bad behavior. Above a photograph called Scene on the Mott Street Barracks
For a time he experienced the extreme poverty he would later document for others. His photographs, taken using a tripod camera and articles in now-departed newspapers such as the New York Tribune.

Yochelson told NPR that his most famous book How the Other Half Lives, went to immigrant neighborhoods, but accused him of being guilty of perpetrating a freak show.

'Come see the colorful Italians and the mystifying Chinese,' Yochelson said of his attitudes.

Despite his alleged biases - not a problem which was raised at the time - Riis's magnesium powder flash photography is credited with bringing light, both figuratively and literally, to the desperate situations he saw.

Waves of anti-immigrant sentiment also pulsated through the United States, but the journalist's work soon gained powerful supporters.

2D1F84CB00000578-3261279-image-a-46_1444091470207.jpg


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The photographer also looked at the places of work of the immigrant communities, such as the above Bohemian cigarmakers. His work would later be followed up by fellow muckraker Upton Sinclair, who exposed conditions in the meatpacking industry
2D1F84C600000578-3261279-image-a-49_1444091470263.jpg


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Riis used new photography techniques that incorporated magnesium powder to create a large flash. But photography was still a long way from where it is today and the film needed so much time to be properly exposed that movements like this girl's hand would be picked up
2D1F852A00000578-3261279-image-m-50_1444092797660.jpg


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The immigrant's work later gathered powerful supporters such as future president Theodore Roosevelt. Above, a picture taken at a Lower East Side sweatshop on Ludlow Street
Riis was later accompanied on his journeys into the slums by Theodore Roosevelt, then on the New York Board of Police Commissioners.

The future president, who would close the worst lodging house offenders, became friends with the Dane and said that he was 'New York's most useful citizen'.

Riis's work would set the stage for later muckrakers such as The Jungle author Upton Sinclair.

Beyond efforts at reform, the journalist also worked with philanthropists in an effort to assure that any moral citizen had a chance to work for a better life, attributing bad behavior to the environment where people were raised.

He later married his Danish sweetheart after her first husband died and brought her to America before his death in 1914.

The upcoming exhibition on his work, which opens on October 14, will travel to Washington DC and Denmark after its stay in New York.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hotographer-praise-city-s-useful-citizen.html

Irish American experience was a cakewalk compared to the African American experience.
 
You're assuming leaders and citizens will adhere to a centuries old document forever.

All of the legal cases of unconstitutional action and state sponsored violations of rights should tell you otherwise. It's not as ironclad as you think, there are executive orders written up that can effectively suspend the Constitution itself so it being ironclad is a very shaky argument. People are willing to bend and reinterpret laws and the Constitution as they see fit to match whatever agenda they may have.

Again you're using the current dynamic as your basis for "forever" and it does not make sense to think that way.

The Constitution has recently been under assault by the embarrassment occupying the White House.

At the onset they attempted to implement a religious ban.

He implores the Senate to change its rules to push his agenda through.

He openly derides and attempts to undercut the Judicial system when they strike down his nonsense.

Of course, he then starts to go after the free press in this country, calling them fake, posting gifs and pictures of them being beaten or run over by trains.

If he wasn't so ineffectual as a leader it would be far more alarming than it already is. This is how the foundations of a republic are destroyed - slowly.

Glad to see more of you express what I did at the beginning of his term.
 
:lol:




These WS get to crying when they get exposed. Will Cain had a similar breakdown on 1st Take


Dude literally condemned Stephen A and Max because not only did they disagree with his WS views but they also called them immoral (which they are) and tried so hard to spin it as if he can have those views and they can be right. Then said they shouldn't insult him as an inferior human being and thats not whats right.

Crazy because they never resolved things on air and didn't seem like it off air also because they were on to the next segment.
 
Dude literally condemned Stephen A and Max because not only did they disagree with his WS views but they also called them immoral (which they are) and tried so hard to spin it as if he can have those views and they can be right. Then said they shouldn't insult him as an inferior human being and thats not whats right.

Crazy because they never resolved things on air and didn't seem like it off air also because they were on to the next segment.


He needs to go man.
 
Dude literally condemned Stephen A and Max because not only did they disagree with his WS views but they also called them immoral (which they are) and tried so hard to spin it as if he can have those views and they can be right. Then said they shouldn't insult him as an inferior human being and thats not whats right.

Crazy because they never resolved things on air and didn't seem like it off air also because they were on to the next segment.

He always feel like he has to start off by saying "I'm not racist, I'm fair but....". SAS called him out how during the Charlottesville thing he was tryna convince people on twitter he's not racist. If you're not racist you don't have to convince anybody of that. We never hear Max or Skip tryna plead to people. He knows nothing about sports, he's always on there tryna tell black people what we should and shouldn't react to like anybody cares what he thinks. I guess ESPN thinks that's good TV but that was a mess to me. Dude looked like he was about to breakdown, the WS in him was jumping out.
 
He always feel like he has to start off by saying "I'm not racist, I'm fair but....". SAS called him out how during the Charlottesville thing he was tryna convince people on twitter he's not racist. If you're not racist you don't have to convince anybody of that. We never hear Max or Skip tryna plead to people. He knows nothing about sports, he's always on there tryna tell black people what we should and shouldn't react to like anybody cares what he thinks. I guess ESPN thinks that's good TV but that was a mess to me. Dude looked like he was about to breakdown, the WS in him was jumping out.

His steez is to literally play devil's advocate on everything. Like Max said, there is no other side to respect. Dude is a Republican though from Texas, not surprised at all but his tomfoolery.
 
I remember when cats were salty about destiny's child coming out because they felt like they were empowering women with negative messages. The same thing is happening with trump. He's got the racists feeling themselves and not giving a damn about it.
 
Glad to see more of you express what I did at the beginning of his term.

I'm disgusted with many of the pundits and politicians who are enabling this guy. I hope they're ok with history seeing them as a bunch of bootlickers.

Another negative is the degradation of the position as president of this country. Even Bush (both of them), Reagan, etc were capable of stepping up to the plate and handling business like adults when it came down to it. I can't speak for anyone else, but you never got the vibe that the office wasn't something sacred to them. They were aware of how much weight their words carried.

This dude is president and talks about TV host's faces bleeding, his inauguration crowd, personally attacks Senators, called McCain a loser for being a POW, the list is endless.

It's not normal.
It's not normal.
It's not normal.
 
Just got home from the protests. Just a dump of my thoughts:

There are some people in this world who cannot be fixed. Regardless of political ideology, religious beliefs or personal opinions, everyone should be held to a certain level of common sense and logic. These white nationalist who wrap their racist views under the guise of politics and patriotism are beyond the point of reason. They're helpless.

Despite this, what I saw today was beautiful. There's something to be said about so many people who fight for equality and are willing to unite and take time out of their day to spread the positive message they so strongly believe in.

As some of you guys know, I just moved here from down under, and a common perception of America from the rest of the world is overly patriotic, self centred and ignorant. I moved here without knowing a single person outside of work and After being here for two months, I can't express how grateful of my American colleagues I am for helping me adjust. Even folks working at the train station will happily explain the transportation systems, recommended restaurants and areas to look out for. Hell, even the bank teller was willing to show me around.

It's days like today that remind me why I came here in the first place. The willingness of the American people to stand up for what they believe in, to be messengers of positive change and the risks they take to achieve this is what made this country the greatest in the world.

Hard to express how I'm feeling in words, I'll never feel like I truly fit in as an Asian in a western world and that identity crisis is something I've yet to fully grasp, but I already love this country.

Have a good rest of the day fellas, and stay safe.
Great post!

For all the buzz about Tina Fey's amusing Weekend Update appearance, I have to say that I disagreed with her suggestion, however sincere, that everyone should just stay home and let the Nazis' cries reach nothing but empty air.

It's not an illogical position. We know that these wretches are acting out, like petulant toddlers or pitiful Internet trolls, because they feel powerless and seek to provoke a response. They want to inspire terror. They want to inspire hatred. Their greatest fear, from their own words, is to be forgotten and replaced.

It's hard to imagine a more deflating outcome than the shock troops of the KKK, White Nationalist, Neo-Nazi, Alt-White/Alt-Reich invasion hitting the streets of America with all the force of mouse flatulence.

But the counter-protests aren't for them. They're for us.

The KKK, Confederate soldiers, and Nazis are the Washington Generals of villainy. If you oppose them, we need to see you. The world needs to see you. History needs to see you. Quiet condemnation isn't enough and silence is complicity. There's no middle ground on this issue.

If White Supremacists are congregating in Boston steps away from the shattered glass of a vandalized Holocaust memorial, they had damned well better be surrounded by an ocean of counter-protesters.

As an American, I'd like to thank everyone who attended a counter-protest yesterday, or attended a protest like the Millions for Prisoners Human Rights March (which I wish had received more attention, but we're apparently too busy re-litigating the Civil War and World War II to worry about contemporary convict leasing.)

This isn't about America's history so much as America's future. We all need to feel some hope right now, and, in the absence of moral or ethical leadership, the only hope we're likely to get is that which we create for each other.

Seriously, they were indentured servants. That's not great, but they weren't slaves.

That's not to downplay the non-WASP struggle. These folks were treated like dirt. They didn't "become white" til the late 19th, early 20th century.
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I remember when cats were salty about destiny's child coming out because they felt like they were empowering women with negative messages. The same thing is happening with trump. He's got the racists feeling themselves and not giving a damn about it.
I've read and heard a great many superlatives describing Trump's racism.

"The Destiny's Child of White Supremacy" is a new one.
 
Were these dudes crying on cbs just now For being trolled? The teacher with the Arkansas shirt said that wasn't him...the 1 minute that I seen cause I just turned on the tv made it seem like these dudes were being bullied
 
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